Abbott's imploding act-

 
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Of course this particularly Small Minded TightRsed mob can't be allowed to go unchecked. However, our Defence Minister is stupid to say they'll be defeated. At best perhaps they might be contained but only with capable troops on the ground with Turkey and Iran actively involved as well.
Making it a daily domestic issue is simply Abbott playing to our local (non-muslim) SMTAs whilst stroking his own Churchillian ambition.
Groundrelay

I don't think they can be defeated easily either. Yet again, it's blow-back from the unbelievably stupid decision to remove Saddam in 2003. Assad (like Saddam) had the wrong kind of friends with Iran and Russia so Obama was reluctant to get involved and try and get a decisive outcome when the insurrection first started to happen in Syria; it's also blow-back from that chain of events too.

They should have damn well left a secular Saddam where he was - it would have saved 1.6 million Iraqi lives and we wouldn't be involved in this never-ending war (11 years and counting) the only apparent beneficiary of which is a Prime Minister seeking to distract an electorate from his lack of action at home. I find it incredible that Abbott has barely said a word about our increasing unemployment rate; its an enormous social disaster in the making.
For Operation Turn-Around-Opinion-Polls - no cost is too small Twisted Evil How many emergencies can this guy's ego handle!
As opposed to Operation Eliminate-Boat-People, no media grandstanding opportunity is to be missed. Surely after dealing with those "illegal migrants", Morrison should have no problem with stopping terrorist plane people. After all haven't our authorities been doing that for two decades now Confused

The really stupid thing with Team Abbott is the crowing about removing revenue-raising measures (carbon tax, the ineffective resource tax) while continuing to have a blank cheque on boat people and overseas military interventions. We're headed for a real budgetary emergency soon... it will be interesting to see how they handle it. My bet is that they thrash around blaming everyone else but themselves.

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
As predicted a few weeks ago, the budget deficit has blown out to $48 billion. But what's in the headlines today? Burkas being worn into parliament, yet another racist dog-whistle right out of the Johnny Howard play-book. Even Tony himself has said 'this is not an important issue' but the media have obligingly picked it up and ran with it.

I take my hat off to Abbott, a few months ago he was struggling and looked very anaemic and ill every time you saw him on telly - that's all turned around in a very short period of time - he looks decisive and strong now. As with Johnny Howard, what was needed was a good old-fashioned war to distract people; the polls have also bounced for the LNP.

And stealing bits from Chifley's speeches - truly bizarre.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
As predicted a few weeks ago, the budget deficit has blown out to $48 billion. But what's in the headlines today? Burkas being worn into parliament, yet another racist dog-whistle right out of the Johnny Howard play-book. Even Tony himself has said 'this is not an important issue' but the media have obligingly picked it up and ran with it.
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don_dunstan


Pretty sad really. The bloke needs to realise his "opinions" have ramifications.
Abbott is supposed to be the PM for all Australians, not just the non Islamic, small-minded, tightRsed ones. Nothing like encouraging ignorant, fearful and hateful people out there.
Team (what?) Australia   Rolling Eyes
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Pretty sad really. The bloke needs to realise his "opinions" have ramifications.

Team (what?) Australia   Rolling Eyes
"Groundrelay"

Yep, Terrific that he is supporting Australian manufacturing.
First he effectively closes down ASC by giving the new submarine contracts to Japan.
Now he sees fit to ignore a long time ADF supplier of quality work boots (Rossi - meaning a 50% work force reduction) and award a supply contract to an Indonesia company instead of an Australian company Rolling Eyes

Australia, the lucky country, land of leisure .........Leisure because no one works, because the Mad Monk is making sure there ain't no friggin' jobs! Rolling Eyes
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Australia, the lucky country, land of leisure .........Leisure because no one works, because the Mad Monk is making sure there ain't no friggin' jobs!
Pressman

Oooh! I don't know how you can be so horrible to that nice Mr Abbott. Before he was elected, he promised the Coalition would create a million new jobs. He's probably been just too busy to do it yet.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
There's very little prospect of manufacturing making any sort of a turn around, even with a plummeting dollar: We just don't have the resources that we used to. Anyway, why should we make anything when all the smart money is in real-estate speculation and managing superannuation ($20+ billion a year in fees to be made)? My feeling is that (like Thatcher) the argument will be that fighting inflation is much more important than unemployment - hence the concerted efforts since the election to demonise people who are out of work... because there's going to be a lot more of them in the future.

You only have to read Andrew Bolt to understand what the direction is - articles in the last few weeks have been mostly focused on the Islamic terror threat within and outside of Australia but he does pause from time to time to bash DSP/Newstart recipients, Bill Shorten, trade unions and (for some reason) an ongoing obsession with Julia Gillard (who?). The terror 'threat' has at least given the government a welcome distraction from the deterioration in employment and revenues but as with Howard it probably won't fool the public forever, particularly once inflation starts to bite with the falling dollar.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
You only have to read Andrew Bolt
don_dunstan

Does anybody?
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
We just don't have the resources that we used to.
don_dunstan

No, we've sold them all to China etc... Smile
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Does anybody?
Valvegear

I do from time to time but it's often repetitive... usually I just skim through his page to get the gist of it. I usually only take 5 minutes to read the whole paper, it really isn't my thing except that I like reading the letters, editorial and the pop quiz. I don't read the Sun every day, just when I have the opportunity.

I'm always interested to see what Andrew Bolt has to say - after all as the Sun keeps telling us - he's Australia's most read columnist. I've seen him in public a few times around Melbourne and apparently he's a really lovely bloke and quite happy to chat to his fans if you say 'hello'.

Kenneth Davidson is my favourite columnist however... I'm sure that would come as no surprise to people on this board.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Does anybody?
Valvegear

I see Groundhog Day has a comment on there every now and then - or has someone stolen his profile name???
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Australia prepares to bomb Iraq again. It's interesting to note that we've had a military presence in Iraq for most of the last 12 years and that every US president since George Bush Snr has bombed Iraq.

Abbott's speech on this was quite amusing: "This could get quite lengthy". LOL, but I thought it was "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".

At least we get to use those shiny new fighter aircraft we splashed out all those billions on...
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Yesterday's Australian reports that Tony Abbott's popularity bounce from the new war has disappeared and he's back to being as disliked as Julia Gillard was.

Interesting to note that the public apparently liked his empty threat against Vladimir Putin. It's quite sad that the only time he's popular is when he threatens other people and behaves like a bully - it will only encourage him to keep doing it. No doubt Peta Credlin will be working hard to find more imaginary enemies for Tones to threaten.
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
Yesterday's Australian reports that Tony Abbott's popularity bounce from the new war has disappeared and he's back to being as disliked as Julia Gillard was.

Interesting to note that the public apparently liked his empty threat against Vladimir Putin. It's quite sad that the only time he's popular is when he threatens other people and behaves like a bully - it will only encourage him to keep doing it. No doubt Peta Credlin will be working hard to find more imaginary enemies for Tones to threaten.
don_dunstan

Having a crack at the Russians is an old Tory trick - Menzies excelled at it, as did Fraser.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Having a crack at the Russians is an old Tory trick - Menzies excelled at it, as did Fraser.
gippslander

Putin is ex-KGB. I know who'd I'd be backing in a punch-up.

Not to mention the one million standing army.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Putin is ex-KGB. I know who'd I'd be backing in a punch-up.

Not to mention the one million standing army.
don_dunstan

You seem to be just as good at misinterpreting the original statement as the press are. Congratulations, that puts you on their level.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Abbott has been farting out these blustery noises about how he's going to take on Vladimir Putin for months since MH17. Then finally comes out with a pearler "I'm going to shirt-front Mr Putin" at a press conference about the G20 a few weeks ago.

So that wasn't a physical threat? Tony is full of hot air? I'm shocked.

It was the only thing the Australian Newspoll reported that played well with the public so expect lots more threats and bluster in the future.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Abbott has been farting out these blustery noises about how he's going to take on Vladimir Putin for months since MH17. Then finally comes out with a pearler "I'm going to shirt-front Mr Putin" at a press conference about the G20 a few weeks ago.

So that wasn't a physical threat? Tony is full of hot air? I'm shocked.

It was the only thing the Australian Newspoll reported that played well with the public so expect lots more threats and bluster in the future.
don_dunstan

Last time I looked, a 'shirtfront' was a face to face confrontation, not a physical threat. But, never mind, I will butt out and leave you rabid Labor hacks to your boring entertainment.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Last time I looked, a 'shirtfront' was a face to face confrontation, not a physical threat. But, never mind, I will butt out and leave you rabid Labor hacks to your boring entertainment.
TheBlacksmith

The most common use of the term 'shirtfront' these days in in Aussie Rules football, includes a degree of physical force and can result in a player being suspended.

Now, Abbott may have been using the current populist definition of the term (which as explained does include force) or like you, he may still be stuck in the 1950s.

I'll let others be the judge.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The most common use of the term 'shirtfront' these days in in Aussie Rules football, includes a degree of physical force and can result in a player being suspended.

Now, Abbott may have been using the current populist definition of the term (which as explained does include force) or like you, he may still be stuck in the 1950s.

I'll let others be the judge.
"bingley hall"
Abbott studied at Oxford and is an endurance athletics enthusiast from NSW. His idea of a shirt front would run very close to the traditional (ie correct) definition of the term. He is unlikely have been envisioning the misnomer of the term almost exclusively used by the 'AFL States' and you.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
With all this talk of shirt-fronting, I have a hard time believing that Putin would see Abbott (and by extension, Australia) as anything more than an annoying fly to be swatted away. Surely Abbott and Co. could see that nothing's going to come of this "tough talk"...
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
With all this talk of shirt-fronting, I have a hard time believing that Putin would see Abbott (and by extension, Australia) as anything more than an annoying fly to be swatted away. Surely Abbott and Co. could see that nothing's going to come of this "tough talk"...
"Greensleeves"

Of course Abbott and Co. know nothing will come of it, except maybe a rise in popularity at home
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Abbott studied at Oxford and is an endurance athletics enthusiast from NSW. His idea of a shirt front would run very close to the traditional (ie correct) definition of the term. He is unlikely have been envisioning the misnomer of the term almost exclusively used by the 'AFL States' and you.
Aaron

As I said - stuck in the 1950s.
  kapow Junior Train Controller

Last time I looked, a 'shirtfront' was a face to face confrontation, not a physical threat. But, never mind, I will butt out and leave you rabid Labor hacks to your boring entertainment.
TheBlacksmith


I don't doubt Abbot was using the term to mean a face to face confrontation but it still have a confrontational, aggressive tone. He is meant to be the leader of the country and represent us on the world stage, a statesman is what is required in these situations but he still acts like the opposition leader in the hustle and bustle of question time. He made a hash of it which hopefully he learns from as it helps nobody, Julie Bishop has been the one who has shown a bit of class by using tough but considered language. I must admit I didn't think very highly of Julie Bishop whilst in opposition but she really has shown herself to be quite an effective minister.

The Victorian election will be interesting to watch and I'm curious as to what Abbots lack of popularity in the state will have, the Victorian Liberals are already saying the don't want the PM to campaign for them, much like the states Labor parties ran from Gillard.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
... the Victorian Liberals are already saying the don't want the PM to campaign for them, much like the states Labor parties ran from Gillard.
kapow

And recall how Paul Keating tried to run away from Joan Kirner - hilarious!

Our Prime Minister badly needs to find some traction on something other than this phony war on terror bulldust. It's a shame that they're looking for an international crisis or a terrorism thing to gain traction on because there's so many other problems at home that need addressing.

In the Australian today an article about the rising number of people over 50 who are claiming the dole - it's the biggest growth area apparently. I wouldn't want to have to live on the dole in the years leading up to my retirement; it's a pitifully small amount of money to try and run a household on, not to mention the fact that you're not adding to your super in the time you're unemployed.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
In the Australian today an article about the rising number of people over 50 who are claiming the dole - it's the biggest growth area apparently. I wouldn't want to have to live on the dole in the years leading up to my retirement; it's a pitifully small amount of money to try and run a household on, not to mention the fact that you're not adding to your super in the time you're unemployed.
don_dunstan

You are not meant to be able to live on the dole, it is there as an "emergency" provision until you can find paid employment. Fortunately in my almost 47 working years I have only had to avail myself of this provision once, for 6 weeks in 1976. It barely paid the rent, let alone ran the household.

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