50 level crossings to be removed

 
  loopy Locomotive Driver

I think the reason there's no express trains during the Box Hill to Ringwood closure is because if e.g. a succession of Camberwell to Box Hill expresses DID operate, there'd be a massive bunch up of trains waiting for an available platform at BH. That's assuming only P2/P3 are operational during this time. Also interesting to note that the 2007 Middleborough Rd [Laburnum stn] x'ing removal DID have exp's to Camberwell, then all to BH. Whereas the 2010 Springvale Rd [Nunawading stn] and 2014 Rooks Rd/Mitcham Rd [Mitcham stn] ones had minor timetable alterations in the form of all beyond Blackburn trains terminating there, whereas Blackburn's terminated at BH

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  SandyUser17 Station Staff

Suprised that Middle Brighton didn't have its level crossing removed there have been several near misses with the train flying around the bend and there's also been lots of accidents. The crossing also picks up a lot of traffic as does Hampton. Hampton is very busy those two should have probably been part of the 50
  SandyUser17 Station Staff

Also with regards to Box Hill the whole Centro there needs a massive upgrade. Maybe Andrews can commit 800 million to fixing it up and making a massive transport hub with 4-5 platforms. I would even have the trains terminating at Box Hill than at Blackburn or Ringwood.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Just get BH platform one opened for starters.  Would make a huge difference if it were available now.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Also with regards to Box Hill the whole Centro there needs a massive upgrade. Maybe Andrews can commit 800 million to fixing it up and making a massive transport hub with 4-5 platforms. I would even have the trains terminating at Box Hill than at Blackburn or Ringwood.
SandyUser17
Agree, however I think two platforms should suffice as stopping patterns become more and more uniform. What really needs to happen is that the bus interchange and tram stop should be relocated to proivde a much more convenient interchange between them and the station.
  loopy Locomotive Driver

Just a quick thought, if both crossings are being removed either side of Cheltenham station, are they keeping P1 post crossing removal or only having a P1 & P2 as opposed to a P3 as well?
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
The assessment options, found here, have the trench option at 30m wide while the rail over option is at 24m wide. Other trenches and bridges on other lines, for all of which are available can be found here , have the trenches and bridges at about 12m, so I'd say there's a good case for it, or at least provision being included.
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

Grange Rd in Alphington going rail under.



https://youtu.be/mKBCleloMl8
  toastywarmhamster Station Master

Location: Space and Time
For those interested here is a Day Zero look at the Blackburn Rd project, before major works get under way tomorrow.



https://youtu.be/rGcZMgenSOk
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Just remember, if the bustitution is packed or nonexistent at the time between Ringwood and Blackburn and you don't need Laburnum or Box Hill, cram into the 901 SmartBus instead (and touch on and off, of course) which also stops all stations. Just don't end up at Westfield Knox or The Pines by mistake. Laughing
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The Pakenham factory where the precast concrete viaduct girders for the skyrail viaduct Is just about complete (just off Koo Wee Rup Road)

I wonder If any consideration was ever given to building this casting factory at the site of the proposed Pakenham train maintenance / stabling facility, where It could of been rail served and with a temporary unwired siding at Murrumbeena girders could of been railed from the factory to the Murrumbeena gantry crane (at night during total track occupation)

This factory may have a very prosperous order book (Frankston line grade separations ?)

I assume the double track viaducts at Carnegie, Clayton and Noble Park will be erected by heavy slewing mobile cranes ?
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

I wonder If any consideration was ever given to building this casting factory at the site of the proposed Pakenham train maintenance / stabling facility, where It could of been rail served and with a temporary unwired siding at Murrumbeena girders could of been railed from the factory to the Murrumbeena gantry crane (at night during total track occupation)
Nightfire
Probably not. Why go to the trouble when the roads are there to use? I'm sure heavy haulage operators will have provided very competitive tenders for delivery of the girders.
I'm playing devil's advocate, I'd much rather see rail being used, but with great rivalry (not usually friendly) between the tendering parties for construction projects there's no room for feel good stuff unless the client's paying for it.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I wonder If any consideration was ever given to building this casting factory at the site of the proposed Pakenham train maintenance / stabling facility, where It could of been rail served and with a temporary unwired siding at Murrumbeena girders could of been railed from the factory to the Murrumbeena gantry crane (at night during total track occupation)
Probably not. Why go to the trouble when the roads are there to use? I'm sure heavy haulage operators will have provided very competitive tenders for delivery of the girders.
I'm playing devil's advocate, I'd much rather see rail being used, but with great rivalry (not usually friendly) between the tendering parties for construction projects there's no room for feel good stuff unless the client's paying for it.
Lockspike
Yes rail delivery would of only of been done to try and please the Murrumbeena locals by not having heavy over dimensional vehicles threading through their streets.

Though straight along the M1 from Pakenham to Warrigal Road, then South to Princes Highway, turn right, then straight ahead onto Neerim Road to the Murrumbeena depot, would be rather straight forward.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

I wonder If any consideration was ever given to building this casting factory at the site of the proposed Pakenham train maintenance / stabling facility, where It could of been rail served and with a temporary unwired siding at Murrumbeena girders could of been railed from the factory to the Murrumbeena gantry crane (at night during total track occupation)
Probably not. Why go to the trouble when the roads are there to use? I'm sure heavy haulage operators will have provided very competitive tenders for delivery of the girders.
I'm playing devil's advocate, I'd much rather see rail being used, but with great rivalry (not usually friendly) between the tendering parties for construction projects there's no room for feel good stuff unless the client's paying for it.
Yes rail delivery would of only of been done to try and please the Murrumbeena locals by not having heavy over dimensional vehicles threading through their streets.

Though straight along the M1 from Pakenham to Warrigal Road, then South to Princes Highway, turn right, then straight ahead onto Neerim Road to the Murrumbeena depot, would be rather straight forward.
Nightfire
I have a spare Melways.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I have three Melway street directories and an old UBD, but no Melways. Smile
  drunkill Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia

I assume the double track viaducts at Carnegie, Clayton and Noble Park will be erected by heavy slewing mobile cranes ?
"Nightfire"


There might be assistance from mobile cranes, but most of it will be installed with the 'crawler' you can see how it'll happen here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGtIIDAgwi4
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland

I assume the double track viaducts at Carnegie, Clayton and Noble Park will be erected by heavy slewing mobile cranes ?

There might be assistance from mobile cranes, but most of it will be installed with the 'crawler' you can see how it'll happen here:
drunkill
Have to wait and see

Remembering the Carnegie to Hughsdale section Is an extreme brownfield construction site.
  toastywarmhamster Station Master

Location: Space and Time
Current status at the Blackburn LXRP



https://youtu.be/cUL6SjW49TA
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I expected that the Grange road grade separation would be rail over given the terrain in that area, and I am under the impression that the railways already goes over other roads nearby.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I expected that the Grange road grade separation would be rail over given the terrain in that area, and I am under the impression that the railways already goes over other roads nearby.
Myrtone
Grange Road, Fairfield?  There's a Grange Road LC at Caulfield too, and at first reading I assumed that was the one you were discussing.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
But wait, the one mentioned above is in Fairfield.
  HardWorkingMan Chief Commissioner

Location: Echuca
I see a lot of bridge beams being trucked south down the Northern Highway originating from the Humes Factory in Echuca.  There are a lot of them heading out but I have no way of telling whether they are road or rail - they are way to big for a bike path!  Does anyone know who has the beam contract?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Could be for the M1 Freeway upgrade, where bridges are been widened around Berwick and Dandenong area ?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Could be for "Skyrail" and the M1 project.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Humes is pretty busy at the moment, full stop. Wouldn't surprise me if the stuff heading south is mostly VicRoads orders and a few LXRA ones.

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