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  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

My fears that the Trump campaign was looking more and more like Germany in 1932-33 every week were countered somewhat in Chicago.

Trump chickened out and cancelled his rally as soon as he found out there were some anti-Trump protesters in the venue, despite his 'organisers' managing to take out a few of them. The difference in 1932-33 was that Hitler had the ability to persuade that Trump is lacking and would not have cancelled the rally just because a few people might have disagreed with him.

I won't be surprised if we see both the successful swamping tactics and the consequent cancellations continue across the campaign.

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  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Hillary might not even make it to the final race yet, she still has an FBI investigation to survive, and I can't actually see how she can survive it. She'll be likely facing prosecution rather than a presidential election. She's in big trouble I think.
Aaron
I have been wondering this all along.
I wonder how she can still be in the race with major charges pending?
Will she get a pardon from an old friend?
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
The comb over was popular until last 20 years or so, when the very short look took over and looks alot better.

Trump is a racist and not because of the comment on border security, he didn't talk down the support from KKK, he is anti Muslim which is often another way of saving anti arab as all arabs are deemed hard line Muslim by many yanks.

Clinton will get the bulk of the non-white vote, Non-christian vote, much of the womens vote, left vote, moderates vote and people who fear Trump running their country. The only downside I see is that she put on a bit of weight in last 2 years.
RTT_Rules
Trump a racist?  Did you read that somewhere?

Sanders is also linked to the KKK, but you don't hear about that.

http://www.infowars.com/sanders-ignores-democrats-link-to-kkk-while-claiming-america-founded-on-racism/

Sanders is out of touch.  Also a racist.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.

*EDIT*
Interesting video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-cAkig7iA
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Donald Trump has upped his security in the wake of the Chicago speech being cancelled. He's become a political lightening rod in the United States, extremely controversial.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
The difference between U.S. politics and Australian politics:

They have Donald Trump, a Billionaire who overstates his wealth, has grand ideas that mostly never get off the ground and is prone to making ridiculous statements.

We have Clive Palmer, a Billionaire who overstates his wealth, has grand ideas that mostly never get off the ground and is prone to making ridiculous statements.

Over there, they seem likely to let The Donald take the lead for one of their major political parties, meaning if enough people vote for him, than he is running the show.

Over here, we only give Clive the chance to start a fringe party, and contest against the major two parties, who like our North American Friends are floundering, meaning, if enough people vote for Clive, he can force a hung parliament, and exert enough power to essentially mean he is running the show from the sidelines.

And that is the difference between U.S. politics, and Australian politics, different but the same.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Hillary might not even make it to the final race yet, she still has an FBI investigation to survive, and I can't actually see how she can survive it. She'll be likely facing prosecution rather than a presidential election. She's in big trouble I think.
Aaron
I have been wondering this all along.
I wonder how she can still be in the race with major charges pending?
Will she get a pardon from an old friend?
"QSB6.7"
She's in big trouble, and quite frankly, I hope a pardon from an old friend doesn't cut it. She conducted US business at massive risk, currently I think she's only being protected because of who/what she is/was. I want Sanders to gain the Democrat nod, but I just can't see how it could go to Hillary.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

When/if Donald sees off Cruz and Rubio, and secured republican nomination. Time then to focus on the opposition. Surely, there is sizeable dirt files, on Beirnie and Hillary, who I reckon will get the nod, and a particularly grubby campaign to follow. Trump to win.

Just hope the following never occurs

President Trump in Oval Office, looking at a map of the world, nuclear football in one hand, and mutters the words, "Your fired"
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Hillary might not even make it to the final race yet, she still has an FBI investigation to survive, and I can't actually see how she can survive it. She'll be likely facing prosecution rather than a presidential election. She's in big trouble I think.
I have been wondering this all along.
I wonder how she can still be in the race with major charges pending?
Will she get a pardon from an old friend?
She's in big trouble, and quite frankly, I hope a pardon from an old friend doesn't cut it. She conducted US business at massive risk, currently I think she's only being protected because of who/what she is/was. I want Sanders to gain the Democrat nod, but I just can't see how it could go to Hillary.
Aaron
She got off lightly when she let Chis Stevens and co die in Benghazi.  
With any luck, there is more to come on that.
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
The comb over was popular until last 20 years or so, when the very short look took over and looks alot better.

Trump is a racist and not because of the comment on border security, he didn't talk down the support from KKK, he is anti Muslim which is often another way of saving anti arab as all arabs are deemed hard line Muslim by many yanks.

Clinton will get the bulk of the non-white vote, Non-christian vote, much of the womens vote, left vote, moderates vote and people who fear Trump running their country. The only downside I see is that she put on a bit of weight in last 2 years.
Trump a racist?  Did you read that somewhere?

Sanders is also linked to the KKK, but you don't hear about that.

http://www.infowars.com/sanders-ignores-democrats-link-to-kkk-while-claiming-america-founded-on-racism/

Sanders is out of touch.  Also a racist.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.
QSB6.7
OK, so the fact the Democratic party had ties to the KKK a hundred years ago is relevant today. Does that mean that because Labor was a party when Aborignals were not considered Human, they're still racist? Also, you think a website connected to Alex Jones is a reliable source?

As for that Sanders quote, I'd like some context. To me the quote sounds more like he's talking to someone who is black, and trying to get across the idea of working with them to address their issues. However, with no context, it's as useful as creationists quote mining scientists when arguing against science.

As for Sanders being out of touch, then why is his support mainly coming from younger voters, and the disenfranchised?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

The comb over was popular until last 20 years or so, when the very short look took over and looks alot better.

Trump is a racist and not because of the comment on border security, he didn't talk down the support from KKK, he is anti Muslim which is often another way of saving anti arab as all arabs are deemed hard line Muslim by many yanks.

Clinton will get the bulk of the non-white vote, Non-christian vote, much of the womens vote, left vote, moderates vote and people who fear Trump running their country. The only downside I see is that she put on a bit of weight in last 2 years.
Trump a racist?  Did you read that somewhere?

Sanders is also linked to the KKK, but you don't hear about that.

http://www.infowars.com/sanders-ignores-democrats-link-to-kkk-while-claiming-america-founded-on-racism/

Sanders is out of touch.  Also a racist.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.

*EDIT*
Interesting video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-cAkig7iA
QSB6.7
So are you saying that Sanders is a racist because he ignored the Democrats link to the KKK or because he said

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.

If you are saying that because of the above statement Sanders made, then you are just another old dude looking for racism when it just isn't there.

Seriously Trump comes across as a most dreadful demagogue. A dreadful two faced bastard. Seriously he is a businessman and he owns hotels. I bet the majority of his workforce who service the room are Mexicans and other latinos and yet he makes vile remarks about Mexicans. No doubt he is benefiting from the North American Free Trade agreement.

Michael
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
The comb over was popular until last 20 years or so, when the very short look took over and looks alot better.

Trump is a racist and not because of the comment on border security, he didn't talk down the support from KKK, he is anti Muslim which is often another way of saving anti arab as all arabs are deemed hard line Muslim by many yanks.

Clinton will get the bulk of the non-white vote, Non-christian vote, much of the womens vote, left vote, moderates vote and people who fear Trump running their country. The only downside I see is that she put on a bit of weight in last 2 years.
Trump a racist?  Did you read that somewhere?

Sanders is also linked to the KKK, but you don't hear about that.

http://www.infowars.com/sanders-ignores-democrats-link-to-kkk-while-claiming-america-founded-on-racism/

Sanders is out of touch.  Also a racist.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.
OK, so the fact the Democratic party had ties to the KKK a hundred years ago is relevant today. Does that mean that because Labor was a party when Aborignals were not considered Human, they're still racist? Also, you think a website connected to Alex Jones is a reliable source?

As for that Sanders quote, I'd like some context. To me the quote sounds more like he's talking to someone who is black, and trying to get across the idea of working with them to address their issues. However, with no context, it's as useful as creationists quote mining scientists when arguing against science.

As for Sanders being out of touch, then why is his support mainly coming from younger voters, and the disenfranchised?
Alco_Haulic
If you read the link, you would also see that Sen. Robert Byrd had a prior affiliation with the KKK.
As for the reliability of the source, it is no different to any other news outlet.  As we have seen time and again, the story can change slightly with the influence pulling the strings behind it.  Given that lawsuits rule, the information they print has to be pretty accurate.  

Link:  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

Sanders is out of touch with mainstream America.  He is popular with the Gimme Crowd.
People want something different, they are tired of the same old guard running the place.
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

Hillary might not even make it to the final race yet, she still has an FBI investigation to survive, and I can't actually see how she can survive it. She'll be likely facing prosecution rather than a presidential election. She's in big trouble I think.
I have been wondering this all along.
I wonder how she can still be in the race with major charges pending?
Will she get a pardon from an old friend?
QSB6.7
You've no idea what you're talking about. There's no 'major charges pending' that anyone knows about currently. The current FBI investigations are not related to suspected criminal offences by Hillary Clinton.
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

The comb over was popular until last 20 years or so, when the very short look took over and looks alot better.

Trump is a racist and not because of the comment on border security, he didn't talk down the support from KKK, he is anti Muslim which is often another way of saving anti arab as all arabs are deemed hard line Muslim by many yanks.

Clinton will get the bulk of the non-white vote, Non-christian vote, much of the womens vote, left vote, moderates vote and people who fear Trump running their country. The only downside I see is that she put on a bit of weight in last 2 years.
Trump a racist?  Did you read that somewhere?

Sanders is also linked to the KKK, but you don't hear about that.

http://www.infowars.com/sanders-ignores-democrats-link-to-kkk-while-claiming-america-founded-on-racism/

Sanders is out of touch.  Also a racist.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.
OK, so the fact the Democratic party had ties to the KKK a hundred years ago is relevant today. Does that mean that because Labor was a party when Aborignals were not considered Human, they're still racist? Also, you think a website connected to Alex Jones is a reliable source?

As for that Sanders quote, I'd like some context. To me the quote sounds more like he's talking to someone who is black, and trying to get across the idea of working with them to address their issues. However, with no context, it's as useful as creationists quote mining scientists when arguing against science.

As for Sanders being out of touch, then why is his support mainly coming from younger voters, and the disenfranchised?
If you read the link, you would also see that Sen. Robert Byrd had a prior affiliation with the KKK.
As for the reliability of the source, it is no different to any other news outlet.  As we have seen time and again, the story can change slightly with the influence pulling the strings behind it.  Given that lawsuits rule, the information they print has to be pretty accurate.  

Link:  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

Sanders is out of touch with mainstream America.  He is popular with the Gimme Crowd.
People want something different, they are tired of the same old guard running the place.
QSB6.7
Ah yes, Politifact...

http://www.politifactbias.com/
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

The comb over was popular until last 20 years or so, when the very short look took over and looks alot better.

Trump is a racist and not because of the comment on border security, he didn't talk down the support from KKK, he is anti Muslim which is often another way of saving anti arab as all arabs are deemed hard line Muslim by many yanks.

Clinton will get the bulk of the non-white vote, Non-christian vote, much of the womens vote, left vote, moderates vote and people who fear Trump running their country. The only downside I see is that she put on a bit of weight in last 2 years.
Trump a racist?  Did you read that somewhere?

Sanders is also linked to the KKK, but you don't hear about that.

http://www.infowars.com/sanders-ignores-democrats-link-to-kkk-while-claiming-america-founded-on-racism/

Sanders is out of touch.  Also a racist.

"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto. You don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk down the street or when you get dragged out of a car." - Bernie Sanders.
OK, so the fact the Democratic party had ties to the KKK a hundred years ago is relevant today. Does that mean that because Labor was a party when Aborignals were not considered Human, they're still racist? Also, you think a website connected to Alex Jones is a reliable source?

As for that Sanders quote, I'd like some context. To me the quote sounds more like he's talking to someone who is black, and trying to get across the idea of working with them to address their issues. However, with no context, it's as useful as creationists quote mining scientists when arguing against science.

As for Sanders being out of touch, then why is his support mainly coming from younger voters, and the disenfranchised?
If you read the link, you would also see that Sen. Robert Byrd had a prior affiliation with the KKK.
As for the reliability of the source, it is no different to any other news outlet.  As we have seen time and again, the story can change slightly with the influence pulling the strings behind it.  Given that lawsuits rule, the information they print has to be pretty accurate.  

Link:  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

Sanders is out of touch with mainstream America.  He is popular with the Gimme Crowd.
People want something different, they are tired of the same old guard running the place.
QSB6.7
So you see Trump as someone who is different, a breath of fresh air. Yeah he is different all right (Whatever). A breath of fresh air. He is as much as that as a fart in a wet suit. Pretty stale after a few minutes. The only thing I see different is that Trump echos vile statements about minorities, is a total sexist buffoon and makes statements that would get him kicked out of 99.9 % of jobs. If any politician in Australia acts the way Trump does, you would tell him to pull his head in and yet people think that he is great because he will give the place a shake. He is such a snake oil salesman. Says one thing, means another. I mean stating that he has never heard of David Duke, ex leader of one of the most vile organisations of the world. What a croc. Nothing but a two faced bastard. Give me a break!! Do you really want to risk having a racist misogynist git running the most Powerful nation of earth.

Yes Trump is not backed by Major Corporations, nor was Ross Perot. And you know that Ross Perot has more guts in his little finger than Trump does, because he ran as a Independent, not riding on the coat tails of a once great party.

Sanders is far more palatable than Trump. Hillary Clinton is a better option than Trump

Michael
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Trump as a self made billionaire I have alot of time for. However Trump as potential US President, WTF.....

He is letting is popularity get to his head. His support base is the hard line rednecks, attacking black people being escorted from conferences, male and female. Impractical and clearly racist views on Mexicans and further south. No idea what a Muslim even is and treatment of the many hardworking Muslims in USA, most work for a living over there as there is no/minimal unemployment benefits.

If you havn't seen it, look up "Canada for President" in Youtube, there are a series of videos from 2012 and 2016, very funny.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Trump is not a self made billionaire. He inherited a vast fortune from his father, and was skillful enough to grow that fortune to what it is today. It is also widely believed that he has hugely overstated his personal wealth.

As well as all of his business success, there have been many business failures (just have a look at Trump University for instance), in these cases he has taken many average working Americans for a lot of their hard earned.

Yes the Trump name appears on a lot of buildings and resorts, but that doesn't mean he owns them, or even has anything to do with them. In many cases he is simply the naming rights holder (much in the same way that Etihad Airways doesn't own Melbourne's Docklands Stadium, they are a naming rights holder). This works as a cozy relationship between the actual owner/ operator and Trump. They get to bolster their credibility, while he gets to spread his apparant empire. Perfectly legal, although slightly missleading.

Going on his own comments in just this Presidential campain, Trump is either a massive liar, or a massive racist and bigot. The truth is probably a bit of both.

He has suggested all Mexicans illegally living in the USA are rapists and criminals. That is a racist statement.

He has said he will deny ALL muslims entry into the USA. That is a racist policy

He has suggested he would endorse the torture of suspected terrorists, and the killing of their families. That is an international war crime.

Do I think Trump is the next Hitler? No.

Do I think Trump is a lying bigot? Yes.

Americans surely can not be this dumb.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
He has said he will deny ALL muslims entry into the USA. That is a racist policy
Gman_86
I think you are confusing race and religion.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

It is also widely believed that he has hugely overstated his personal wealth.
Gman_86
Indeed.

He himself has said that his worth is dependent on how he feels at the time, because he says most (possibly as much as all but $150M) of his worth is in his brand name.

If he were not rich enough to have access to the legal methods of organising his finances for his benefit, he would probably be one of those 'sovereign citizen' nutters.

As well as all of his business success, there have been many business failures (just have a look at Trump University for instance), in these cases he has taken many average working Americans for a lot of their hard earned.
Gman_86
His businesses should perform better if he gets elected as President, because he'll have to step out of running ruining them and put his holdings in a blind trust.

Do I think Trump is the next Hitler? No.
Gman_86
Of course not. Except in military strategy where they would be roughly equals, Trump can only dream of achieving the same levels of competence that Hitler had.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Some good analysis here by Michael Brendan Dougherty:
http://theweek.com/articles/612240/disintegration-donald-trump

"Indeed, the transformation is already showing. On policy, Trump is caving to normal Republicanism. He's trying to get elected by pining for someone to finish the dang fence but has amnesty on the mind. He's promising to protect American workers from unfair competition, but angling to pass a plutocratic tax reform. By the end of his campaign the only thing he'll have added to the Republican Party is a reputation for crudity and disorderly violence.

His nationalist challenge to the status quo is disintegrating before our eyes. Instead of the inevitable transformation of the American right, Donald Trump is just the most successful huckster, selling gold coins and survival seeds to a scared public."

Yep.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Trump wins Florida but loses Ohio (ABC News).
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
He has said he will deny ALL muslims entry into the USA. That is a racist policy
Gman_86
Islam (Muslim people) is a religion NOT A RACE! That policy is against a religion not a race.

I don't hate Arabs, I don't hate Malaysians, I don't hate Indonesians, I don't hate Iraqis or Pakistanis, but I absolutely detest Islam and I think it's the most dangerous religion in the world today. Scientologists are nutters, the Mormon church is smeg crazy, damaging to American society cultural and technological progress, but Islam is in a whole other league.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

He has said he will deny ALL muslims entry into the USA. That is a racist policy
Islam (Muslim people) is a religion NOT A RACE! That policy is against a religion not a race.
Aaron
No, it's even worse than racism.

The US Constitution has protected freedom of religion for 79 years longer than it has protected against racial discrimination.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
He has said he will deny ALL muslims entry into the USA. That is a racist policy
Islam (Muslim people) is a religion NOT A RACE! That policy is against a religion not a race.

I don't hate Arabs, I don't hate Malaysians, I don't hate Indonesians, I don't hate Iraqis or Pakistanis, but I absolutely detest Islam and I think it's the most dangerous religion in the world today. Scientologists are nutters, the Mormon church is smeg crazy, damaging to American society cultural and technological progress, but Islam is in a whole other league.
Aaron
Sunni one day, Shiite the next.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Threats of rioting at the GOP convention:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/16/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-brokered-convention/index.html

"The Republican Party veered closer to a contested convention Tuesday after Ohio Gov. John Kasich won his home state and deprived Trump, the party's front-runner, of its 66 delegates. That makes it more difficult for the billionaire to reach the 1,237 delegates he needs to capture the GOP prize without a floor fight.

In fact one of Trump's supporters said there would be riots if Trump didn't win the nomination at the convention, though riots themselves "aren't necessarily a bad thing."

Meanwhile, Trump's supporters just put out this ad about Hillary:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/77982675/donald-trumps-new-ad-treats-a-barking-hillary-clinton-like-a-punchline

America doesn't deserve to be a "Super-power".  Circus - Yes, Super-power - No.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
He has said he will deny ALL muslims entry into the USA. That is a racist policy
Islam (Muslim people) is a religion NOT A RACE! That policy is against a religion not a race.

I don't hate Arabs, I don't hate Malaysians, I don't hate Indonesians, I don't hate Iraqis or Pakistanis, but I absolutely detest Islam and I think it's the most dangerous religion in the world today. Scientologists are nutters, the Mormon church is smeg crazy, damaging to American society cultural and technological progress, but Islam is in a whole other league.
Aaron
'Hating' Islam shows the same mindset Aaron.

Islam like Christianity or most political parties is hardly monochromatic. Bowing to some higher power is not my cup of tea but each to their own.
Fundamentalism is the problem. Breeds fanaticism amongst those 'haters' who can't handle shades of grey Razz

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