Welcome to Trump town

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

They were at a rally defending the rights of the unborn.  They waiting for their bus and set upon and harassed by a mob regarded by the SPLC (yes, SPLC) as a hate group (Black Israelite crazies), and then confronted by a well known radical activist who is a troublemaker and liar (claiming he's a Vietnam Vet when he never was). On Sunday he and a mob he led tried to disrupt a Catholic mass in Washington DC.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-21/native-american-surrounded-maga-trump-supporters-what-happened/10730988

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/basilica-confirms-nathan-phillips-protest-attempted-mass-disruption-43932

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Two massive defeats for Trump in two days.

His long-time ally Roger Stone has been arrested, and he has been manoeuvred into ending the shutdown without getting his wall.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

No doubt a rough week for Trump. Is it end game?  But Melania had a win against the British Daily Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/26/melania-trump-apology/
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Has anyone been following the long-running barney between the world's richest man (Jeff Bezos) and Trump? From News.com.au:

Jeff Bezos is reportedly investigating whether Donald Trump had a hand in leaking his salacious private text messages to a US tabloid, ending his marriage of 25 years.

The Amazon founder’s personal security team are “increasingly convinced” that “political motives” were behind the embarrassing disclosure of messages to girlfriend Lauren Sanchez, according The Daily Beast.

Mr Bezos has come under attack from Mr Trump due to his ownership of The Washington Post, an anti-Trump newspaper frequently accused by the US President of peddling “fake news”.

“So sorry to hear the news about Jeff Bozo being taken down by a competitor whose reporting, I understand, is far more accurate than the reporting in his lobbyist newspaper, the Amazon Washington Post,” Mr Trump tweeted last month. “Hopefully the paper will soon be placed in better & more responsible hands!”

The National Enquirer, which has a long and chequered past with Mr Trump, early last month published a “blockbuster four-month investigation” revealing the world’s richest man was having an affair with the married TV personality.

I would have thought Trump had enough on his plate without purposely ruining Bezo's marriage? Anyway, Bezo's ex-wife will apparently be the world's richest woman if she gets half his $137 billion fortune.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I rather like Trump's latest piece of stupidity; telling the US Intelligence Service people to go back to school because they don't agree with his view that Iran is a current nuclear threat.
Many people will enjoy the irony of Trump disagreeing with something called Intelligence. Unfortunately the irony will be wasted on him.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I must admit, Trump's state of the union address today was quite good, he handled himself quite well

Kind Regards
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Did anyone else pick this up from Trump's State of the Union address?

I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally. Tonight, I’m asking you to defend are very dangerous southern border out of love and devotion to our fellow citizens and our country. No issue better illustrates the divide between America’s working-class and America’s political class than illegal immigration. Wealthy politicians and donors push for open borders, while living their lives behind walls and gates and guards.

Meanwhile, working-class Americans are left to pay the price for mass illegal immigration, reduced jobs, lower wages, overburdened schools, hospitals that are so crowded you can’t get in, increased crime, and a depleted social safety net. Tolerance for illegal immigration is not compassionate, it is actually very cruel.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

A good effort by Trump.  I still reckon he'll run into trouble over Russian interference in 2016 and might be out of office before the Nov-2020 election.

Meanwhile, the Dems are running into all sort of strife in the State of Virginia:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-07/virginia-democrats-under-fire-over-blackface-and-allegations/10788256

They've even got their own Bill Clinton impersonator who is having a #metoo moment (Lt Gov. Justin Fairfax) ...
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
A good effort by Trump.  I still reckon he'll run into trouble over Russian interference in 2016 and might be out of office before the Nov-2020 election.
Carnot
Pelosi and the Democrats are going to cop a backlash from the public for not allowing Trump the money for his wall - after all it was a key Trump election promise and they're not allowing him to deliver on it. Not sure why they're so opposed to it either - why?

They're better off not being obstructionist in my opinion.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Did anyone else pick this up from Trump's State of the Union address?

I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.
don_dunstan
Immigration crackdown having unintended effects on the wage bill at Mar-a-Lago?

A good effort by Trump.  I still reckon he'll run into trouble over Russian interference in 2016 and might be out of office before the Nov-2020 election.
Pelosi and the Democrats are going to cop a backlash from the public for not allowing Trump the money for his wall - after all it was a key Trump election promise and they're not allowing him to deliver on it. Not sure why they're so opposed to it either - why?
don_dunstan
Pathetic try mate, I've seen better attempts at spin than that in primary school cricket.

A strong majority of the public (last poll I saw showed 69%) blamed Thump for the shutdown, a far stronger majority than both his vote in the 2016 election (where he was elected on a 46% minority vote) and the 58% Democrat majority vote from the 2018 House elections which saw control of the House flip over.

Further to that, the shutdown started when the Republicans still had the majority in both the House and Senate. They opposed it for the same reason that the Democrats are doing so - that it's a crap policy which won't work.

It certainly leaves Thump's claim to be the 'Deal Maker in Chief' in tatters. He had two whole years of controlling both houses of Congress and still couldn't get his own party into a room and do a deal for his wall.

Time for Humpty Trumpty to realise that sitting on a wall hasn't gone well for him and it's time to get off that policy before he has a great fall (i.e. removal under 25th Amendment).
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Did anyone else pick this up from Trump's State of the Union address?

I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.
Immigration crackdown having unintended effects on the wage bill at Mar-a-Lago?

A good effort by Trump.  I still reckon he'll run into trouble over Russian interference in 2016 and might be out of office before the Nov-2020 election.
Pelosi and the Democrats are going to cop a backlash from the public for not allowing Trump the money for his wall - after all it was a key Trump election promise and they're not allowing him to deliver on it. Not sure why they're so opposed to it either - why?
Pathetic try mate, I've seen better attempts at spin than that in primary school cricket.

A strong majority of the public (last poll I saw showed 69%) blamed Thump for the shutdown, a far stronger majority than both his vote in the 2016 election (where he was elected on a 46% minority vote) and the 58% Democrat majority vote from the 2018 House elections which saw control of the House flip over.

Further to that, the shutdown started when the Republicans still had the majority in both the House and Senate. They opposed it for the same reason that the Democrats are doing so - that it's a crap policy which won't work.

It certainly leaves Thump's claim to be the 'Deal Maker in Chief' in tatters. He had two whole years of controlling both houses of Congress and still couldn't get his own party into a room and do a deal for his wall.

Time for Humpty Trumpty to realise that sitting on a wall hasn't gone well for him and it's time to get off that policy before he has a great fall (i.e. removal under 25th Amendment).
justapassenger
The shutdown actually even hurt his base even more than what Don thinks.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Trump is imitating Nixon and calling for the investigation into him to stop. Now, if there wasnt things to hide he wouldn't care, would he?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/06/trump-and-nixon-both-slammed-investigations-in-state-of-the-union.html
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Pelosi and the Democrats are going to cop a backlash from the public for not allowing Trump the money for his wall - after all it was a key Trump election promise and they're not allowing him to deliver on it. Not sure why they're so opposed to it either - why?
Pathetic try mate, I've seen better attempts at spin than that in primary school cricket.
justapassenger
There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.

Every single time I've tried to be even-handed about Trump in the past I'm accused of being a Trump supporter. I'm not, I just think he should be allowed to do what it was he was elected to do.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Trump can't do everything he wants to do. It's not Trump Towers, and he is not the undisputed boss, even though he thinks he is.
Congress is there to decide what will and won't be passed, and it's time young Donald got used to the idea that the US of A has not appointed him as Dictator.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Pelosi and the Democrats are going to cop a backlash from the public for not allowing Trump the money for his wall - after all it was a key Trump election promise and they're not allowing him to deliver on it. Not sure why they're so opposed to it either - why?
Pathetic try mate, I've seen better attempts at spin than that in primary school cricket.
There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.

Every single time I've tried to be even-handed about Trump in the past I'm accused of being a Trump supporter. I'm not, I just think he should be allowed to do what it was he was elected to do.
don_dunstan

Being President doesn't equal being able to do whatever he damn well pleases. His legislation still has to get through Congress (which is doing what it was elected to do).

It's that simple fact that he has so much trouble with.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.
don_dunstan
Pull the other one ????

Every single time I've tried to be even-handed about Trump in the past I'm accused of being a Trump supporter.
don_dunstan
Can you please point to a single instance where you have commented on Trump in an even-handed manner?

This one certainly doesn't count, because it was blatant spin and completely ignorant of reality.

I'm not, I just think he should be allowed to do what it was he was elected to do.
don_dunstan
That's not how it works.

The USA has three equal branches of government - the Executive branch led by the President who exercises command over the various agencies of the US federal government, the Legislative branch which passes laws and appropriations for the Executive branch, and the Judicial branch which ensures the conduct of the Executive and Legislative branches is conducted legally.

The President is only permitted to govern within the bounds of the legislation and appropriations passed by the Legislature - in effect making them closer to a directly elected Prime Minister than to a totalitarian dictator - and therefore they must possess strong negotiating skills to ensure they can make appropriate deals when requiring the assistance of the Legislature to enact their program. Trump's does not have the strong negotiating skills needed to strike an agreeable deal with equals - this is now an objective fact after two years of failing to get his wall passed even when his own party controlled Congress. His hands were just too damn tiny to grasp the levers of power.

Now that he is dealing with equals who are in opposition to his policies rather than in rough alignment with them, the compromises he will need to offer to strike an agreeable deal will be that much greater. If he decides he really wants his wall, he will need to give the Democrats something they want - that's how a deal works, you get something you want and I get something I want = we both win.

He might want to consult with President Obama on these matters, given Obama's record of doing deals with a hostile Congress was better than Thump's record of dealing with a friendly Congress.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.
"don_dunstan"
I would have thought that calling someone "a liar and a hypocrite" was being pretty damn rude.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.
Pull the other one ????

Every single time I've tried to be even-handed about Trump in the past I'm accused of being a Trump supporter.
Can you please point to a single instance where you have commented on Trump in an even-handed manner?

This one certainly doesn't count, because it was blatant spin and completely ignorant of reality.
justapassenger
I really don't care that you think I'm biased towards Trump - truly I'm not, but I find the hysteria around him incredible. I get so sick of the Trump Derangement Syndrome; right from the very get-go people went off their nuts hating Trump as if they suddenly had a purpose in life and still seems to be hanging around stronger than ever. He's a leader of another nation; he really doesn't affect me apart from foreign policy decisions. Why should I even care?

Right from the start Trump said the completion of the wall was one of his key policies and if the Dems (and Republicans) are obstructing his plan to get the wall done then they're cutting their own throats because that policy has been consistently popular and 75% of the United States public who want to see it built. Why would anyone in all seriousness oppose it when the majority of the US people want it? Just let him do it for God's sake.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.
I would have thought that calling someone "a liar and a hypocrite" was being pretty damn rude.
Valvegear
Number one, this is between myself and justapassenger. Butt out.

Number two, can't remember what the context was but if I called you that then it was definitely 100% right on the money.
  arctic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Zurich
There's no need to be so damn rude, I'm just making an observation.
Pull the other one ????

Every single time I've tried to be even-handed about Trump in the past I'm accused of being a Trump supporter.
Can you please point to a single instance where you have commented on Trump in an even-handed manner?

This one certainly doesn't count, because it was blatant spin and completely ignorant of reality.
I really don't care that you think I'm biased towards Trump - truly I'm not, but I find the hysteria around him incredible. I get so sick of the Trump Derangement Syndrome; right from the very get-go people went off their nuts hating Trump as if they suddenly had a purpose in life and still seems to be hanging around stronger than ever. He's a leader of another nation; he really doesn't affect me apart from foreign policy decisions. Why should I even care?

Right from the start Trump said the completion of the wall was one of his key policies and if the Dems (and Republicans) are obstructing his plan to get the wall done then they're cutting their own throats because that policy has been consistently popular and 75% of the United States public who want to see it built. Why would anyone in all seriousness oppose it when the majority of the US people want it? Just let him do it for God's sake.
don_dunstan
75% of Republicans. 40% Overall:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-dont-want-a-government-shutdown-because-of-the-border-wall/
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Number one, this is between myself and justapassenger. Butt out.
"don_dunstan"
You put in the public arena, it gets public comment.

Number two, can't remember what the context was but if I called you that then it was definitely 100% right on the money.
"don_dunstan"
Translation: "I can be as rude as I like to anyone, but nobody's allowed to be rude to me." Who's a hypocrite?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@DonDunstan Because he is the most racist divisive president in my living memory a disgusting creep and complete BS er.

Anyway Mr Trump promised that Mexico would pay for the wall. So he has already broken an election promise.

Michael
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
You put in the public arena, it gets public comment.
Valvegear
And you can't resist commenting on anything to do with me. It's alright, I know you hang off every word I say...
Translation: "I can be as rude as I like to anyone, but nobody's allowed to be rude to me." Who's a hypocrite?
Valvegear
I remember what that was in relation to now, you denied ever - EVER - secretly laughing at anyone's appearance. So you've never - EVER - had a private chuckle at a bad toupee, terrible make-up or showing too much flesh at a classy do?

Again, I just don't believe you. And if it's true then you're probably the most sanctimonious individual I've ever heard of.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Ho Ho - well done Don.

Remember? With no evidence at all, you decide to call me whatever you liked. Just in case you don't remember all of it ( and you do have a very selective memory) the question was not about a private reaction; it was about publicly insulting someone.

Now, you have conveniently tried to side track this question, but you won't succeed. The question is you bitching about someone being rude to you, while you are as rude as you like to others. Please don't call anyone a hypocrite when you're demonstrating Hypocrisy 101 to everybody.

It's a great pity to watch you continually making a fool of yourself.

Edit: I'm going on holidays for a week now, so you can rabbit on all you like.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Remember? With no evidence at all, you decide to call me whatever you liked. Just in case you don't remember all of it ( and you do have a very selective memory) the question was not about a private reaction; it was about publicly insulting someone.
Valvegear
C'mon Valvegear, this is hardly the pre-eminent public board for political commentary. Gladys Berejiklian is hardly going to come here, see my comments and cry because I repeated the moniker "bin chicken". And if she does then she probably shouldn't be in politics.

What about Donald Trump, can I make comments that laugh at HIS appearance? Or Pauline Hanson, is she fair game for calling names based on appearance?

I'll give your answer in advance: OF COURSE THEY ARE.

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