3801 Boiler and it's return to operation

 
  a6et Minister for Railways

I have just been severely taken to task by a person whose knowledge and experience I greatly respect, over my earlier post in which I said that we would never see anything like this in Victoria.
I wasn't very clear about what I meant, so to clarify:-
We do have very great quality of locomotive restoration here - Steamrail's A2 being the latest example, and it is a superb job. I was never comparing our local workmanship with that of the Sydneysiders.

No; my comparison of the two States was simply about government and/or official help; it occurs in NSW and doesn't in Victoria. From the video, it seems that 3801 made two or three return passes between Hawkesbury River and Cowan. I could never envisage such a thing happening on our main north east line.
My apologies to any offended Victorians!
Valvegear
Valvegear, we have exchanged both pleasantries and unpleasantries over the times, and on that scale I personally saw nothing offensive in what you said, while not from south of the border, we have had a lot of issues in regard to steam services here, and the aspect of 3801's RTS has been a long and terrible saga, finally its over, and without doubt both Transport NSW and the government would be very relieved at its return.

Thing is though, NSW is not as steam friendly as many would think, as there's a lot of missing items that hurt the heritage operations, one thing is the issue of water for steam, and sitting at Hawksbury River is a water column decommissed by the State or ARTC that could well be still used for heritage operations. That is but one spot where that sort of thing exists.

From a NSW perspective and mine only, I could see where you were coming from, and maybe those who were critical could use their common sense in seeing/reading what you said.

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  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
3801 departing Hawkesbury River this evening returning to Thirlmere.



https://youtu.be/qmNdi1lw478
Bevan Wall
Are the marker lamps LED's now? They're so white compared to the interior lights of the VHO etc.
  a6et Minister for Railways

3801 departing Hawkesbury River this evening returning to Thirlmere.



https://youtu.be/qmNdi1lw478
Are the marker lamps LED's now? They're so white compared to the interior lights of the VHO etc.
apw5910
Its quite possible for them to be LED's now as IIRC 6029 is so fitted out. 3801 also has a sealed beam bulb in the headlight as well, something that started with 3237 when allocated to Dubbo back in the 60's and prior to LVR taking ownership of it.

What I noticed though in the trial video is that when the train ran back down to HR, the marker lights remained as clear rather than being switched to Red to indicate the last vehicle on the train.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
I have just been severely taken to task by a person whose knowledge and experience I greatly respect, over my earlier post in which I said that we would never see anything like this in Victoria.
I wasn't very clear about what I meant, so to clarify:-
We do have very great quality of locomotive restoration here - Steamrail's A2 being the latest example, and it is a superb job. I was never comparing our local workmanship with that of the Sydneysiders.

No; my comparison of the two States was simply about government and/or official help; it occurs in NSW and doesn't in Victoria. From the video, it seems that 3801 made two or three return passes between Hawkesbury River and Cowan. I could never envisage such a thing happening on our main north east line.
My apologies to any offended Victorians!
Valvegear
If the infrastructure was in place on the North East line in Vic and the timetable allowed two or three passes there would be nothing stopping it from happening. You could probably timetable a number passes up Islington Bank terminating at Bank Box and Bacchus Marsh.

Sydney Trains through the Asset Standards Authority are pretty strict with 'new' rollingstock coming onto the network. There are several locations on their network that are classified as 'Test' areas. Cowan bank is one of them for the Adhesion Test. The infrastructure between Cowan - Hawkesbury River allows multiple passes up the riverbank. The Up and Down Mains are Bi-Directional. ARTC and John Holland have their tests also and a lot of it can be used between all three stakeholders but Sydney trains have more stringent tests.

When 6029 performed the Adhesion Test in 2016, there was no Government and/or official help. It was all organised through the Canberra Railway Museum through ASA and contractors. All paid for by the CRM. Three trips up the river bank were planned that evening with 6029, the loco passed on the first trip so the other two trips were cancelled.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Transport Heritage Facebook notes the trial saw 3801 haul 318-tonnes in simulated wet we