Hopefully they'll keep at least 12-14 cars like they did with the S sets so a good representation across the board/numerous contracts will be retained. Interesting how in the late 1990's the NSW Gov of the time was willing to sell rolling stock such as the old "red rattlers", U sets, Tulloch trailers, etcThey did sell a lot of the S Sets when they were originally retiring back in 2012. They will most likely do the same with the V Sets and take a few to preservation with SETS and HET. The V Sets are so comfortable!
They did sell a lot of the S Sets when they were originally retiring back in 2012. They will most likely do the same with the V Sets and take a few to preservation with SETS and HET. The V Sets are so comfortable!
Maybe. There is legacy asbestos used in many applications still today, roofing if often one. However as long as its not touched and locked away its often deemed safe. Its when you go to scrap/demolish then the plastic Biohazard moon suits come out.They may have asbestos in the arc-shutes on the line breakers in each power car. Asbestos was used well into the 90s in certain restricted areas where it's superior heat handling was needed - like on the arc chutes on DC circuit breakers.
However I suspect the V-sets were built too late to get asbestos, well at least the bulk of the active fleet anyway.
The end is hereAre these trains being delivered out of order too? The photo included in that article shows that the set is D103.
https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/hyundai-rotem-delivers-first-batch-of-electric-trains-to-australia
I believe there are 20 carriages in the first shipment. Often the first built sets are fitted with test equipment and retained by the builder for testing and only sent down the production line for fitting out at the end.Are these trains being delivered out of order too? The photo included in that article shows that the set is D103.
Very sad to see the end in sight for the V Sets. Has there been any recent news regarding preservation plans for them, in terms of the number of sets that might escape scrapping, and which heritage groups have expressed any interest?You should read a bit more widely rather than ask questions that have been answered multiple times here and elsewhere. Anyhow the answer to your 3 questions is yes, yes and yes.
I took a couple of rides on V sets this week, and I am still convinced that this train iis something completely above and beyond its replacement, the Oscar Mark - (minus) II that has unfortunately landed.The V sets are totally unsuited to the tasks they carry out these days. The runs are now long distance commuter and tourist runs rather than the type of travel envisaged when they were first designed and had practically disappeared by the time they were delivered. The pokey little toilets and limited size of the entrance doors are the main problem with V sets. Besides they are totally clapped out and will not last much longer. Just because the foamers don't like the new NIF sets doesn't mean the public won't like them. They will love them.
Is it possible that the v set frames could have been completely gutted and replaced with new electrics, motors, drivers cabin and controls, interiors, software etc to keep them running another 30 years?The compelling reason could be more than one. Outdated looks, although with what I see across the world in photo's of new trains most look the same and with different front end colours and boring.
Wouldnt this have been cheaper, and kept local jobs especially since the original heavy industry that built them is no longer around.
What was the compelling reason to retire them?
SJ has been doing this to their X2000, with a major overhaul of the electrics, and refreshing the interior.
The V sets are out of time. The narrow doors and passageways are no longer viable for disabled access and reduced dwell times.Several of the sets that run here on the CC line have the swing doors removed, also seats in the vestibule areas are reduced for extra room. Most of the stations are also manned and have disabled access available. The greatest hindrance for the disabled is the high stairways they still have to get up and down to the platforms on.
The V sets are out of time. The narrow doors and passageways are no longer viable for disabled access and reduced dwell times.Several of the sets that run here on the CC line have the swing doors removed, also seats in the vestibule areas are reduced for extra room. Most of the stations are also manned and have disabled access available. The greatest hindrance for the disabled is the high stairways they still have to get up and down to the platforms on.
Its not just the V sets that have disabled problems but very much the dmu's that run in the Maitland services, while some of the stations have raised sections along them there is still a high step up from the platform into the entries, in fact if one compared those sets, and the H sets with the 5 seat configurations there is more issues for the disabled on those trains with narrow doors and aisleways.
There is one other DMU up here that has access restraints as the doors into the compartments at each end are locked and they are also slightly narrower, the difficulty getting out when the train is crowded has the guard needing to get out onto the platform as the doorways are narrow there as well. How anyone with a disabled wheel chair could get on some of those would be a nightmare to see, let alone be involved.
At Victoria st station which is amongst the busiest the 2 car sets have a stop point, that has one of the end doorways stopping on the angled drop down higher extension to the platforms height guite an issue for some as they try to get on or off, Very very easy to miss the height of the entry into the train from the platform.
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