Copper Concentrate on rail

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Reading about mining operations does copper concentrate move on rail in any state of Australia?

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  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I think we were speaking about it in another thread, where OZ Minerals has a supply chain where is trucked to Wirrida from their mine to the east of there, railed to Tennant creek, and trucked to Mt Isa for processing?  I could be wrong though.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
I think we were speaking about it in another thread, where OZ Minerals has a supply chain where is trucked to Wirrida from their mine to the east of there, railed to Tennant creek, and trucked to Mt Isa for processing?  I could be wrong though.
james.au

Hi James and thanks for your response any idea of the volumes involved?

Reference thread please?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I dont know the volumes, but this is the thread, its buried deep within it and as per usual, the thread wasnt about this to begin with.

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2039384.htm#2039384

There are a couple of other threads that come up when you search for Wirrida too.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Until the collapse of global copper prices in 2009, QR was hauling 400,000 tonnes of copper concentrate per annum from Cloncurry to Townsville, mostly in 80-tonne GSZC concentrate wagons. The price crash closed all of the associated mines. Since then the Osbourne mine has reopened and CuDeco has opened the Rocklands mine (both near Cloncurry), and by the end of 2016 Aurizon was hauling around 1000-tonnes per week in containers from Cloncurry to Townsville on its daily 6M54/9255 services. With the cessation of these daily container handling services on January 31st due to the PN/Glencore contract, this copper concentrate is now on road. CuDeco is still ramping up production (it has long term haulage contracts with Aurizon) and has a planned 4-million tonne/annum multi-user container handling terminal at Cloncurry. It was the plan for Aurizon to eventually load two fifty-wagon trains a week at Cloncurry for CuDeco - as far as I know this is still happening later this year, providing tonnages reach sustainable levels for unit train operation. CuDeco is planning to produce 480,000-tonnes of copper concentrate per annum for export via Townsville.

http://www.cudeco.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/20130924-Rail-and-Port-Facilities-advancing.pdf
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I think we were speaking about it in another thread, where OZ Minerals has a supply chain where is trucked to Wirrida from their mine to the east of there, railed to Tennant creek, and trucked to Mt Isa for processing?  I could be wrong though.
james.au
Most of the OZ Minerals copper ore is railed from Wirrida to Port Adelaide for export. It used to be on there dedicated trains a fortnight.

A lesser amount was railed once a fortnight to Tennant Creek and then roaded to Mt Isa for processing, as James mentions.

In the last month or so there have been changes to these workings with some of the traffic (empty and loaded) being attached/detached to/from Adelaide-Darwin intermodal services.

Whether the Tennant Creek traffic has continued I am unsure.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
According to the Australia Mines Atlas http://www.australianminesatlas.gov.au/aimr/commodity/copper.html there are copper mines in NSW at Northparkes, Cadia-Ridgeway, Cobar and Tritton.

Pretty sure at least the first three all have their product moved in containers by rail.
  firefox Station Master

According to the Australia Mines Atlas http://www.australianminesatlas.gov.au/aimr/commodity/copper.html there are copper mines in NSW at Northparkes, Cadia-Ridgeway, Cobar and Tritton.

Pretty sure at least the first three all have their product moved in containers by rail.
bingley hall
NorthParkes and Cadia 3 trains a week each to Port Kembla (PN & Qube respectively)

Cobar CSA 2 trains a week to Carrington (Qube)

Tritton loads at Hermidale on the Cobar line 2-3 days/week for Carrington (PN)
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Copper concentrate was involved in one of the more infamous rail incidents of recent times.

An estimated 1200 tonnes of copper concentrate was spilled into Edith River (NT, 40km north of Katherine) in December 2011 when the embankment on the approach to the bridge was undermined by floodwaters and collapsed under a northbound train.

This product originated from Oz Minerals at Prominent Hill. was loaded at Wirrida and destined for the Port of Darwin. In 2012 that flow switched to Port Adelaide.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Most of the OZ Minerals copper ore is railed from Wirrida to Port Adelaide for export. It used to be on there dedicated trains a fortnight.
bingley hall
The annual shipments from Prominent Hill add up to 150,000t, just below the amount where it switches from being best for attaching to regular GWA trains to being most efficient to use unit trains. It has therefore used both methods over the time that Prominent Hill copper has been loaded there, according to fluctuations in production and in available capacity on GWA mixed freight trains.

There was about 1,900t of Prominent Hill copper (15x 2-pack wagons) on the GWA mixed freight train which crashed into Edith River in December 2011, which is about the right amount for attaching to ~80 trains per year.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Most of the OZ Minerals copper ore is railed from Wirrida to Port Adelaide for export. It used to be on there dedicated trains a fortnight.
The annual shipments from Prominent Hill add up to 150,000t, just below the amount where it switches from being best for attaching to regular GWA trains to being most efficient to use unit trains. It has therefore used both methods over the time that Prominent Hill copper has been loaded there, according to fluctuations in production and in available capacity on GWA mixed freight trains.

There was about 1,900t of Prominent Hill copper (15x 2-pack wagons) on the GWA mixed freight train which crashed into Edith River in December 2011, which is about the right amount for attaching to ~80 trains per year.
justapassenger
Edith River was when they were using Darwin as their main export port - not connected with current flows. When running via Darwin it was always attached/detached to/form existing AD/DA services

In recent times since using Port Adelaide it has been a dedicated train......up until now.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Another major copper concentrate project going ahead is the Altona Cloncurry Copper Project. It should produce around 130,000 to 150,000-tonnes of copper concentrate. I don't believe there is an agreement with a rail operator.

https://d381lo9f9jd9w0.cloudfront.net/uploads/media/documents/2017/02/13/AOH0809_-_SASAC_approves_Cloncurry_Project_Transaction.pdf


Between CuDeco, Chinova Resources (Osbourne) and Altona, there's potential for nearly 700,000-tonnes of copper concentrate to be moving through Cloncurry (hopefully by rail again) to the Townsville Port within the next few years.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Thanks @Sulla1 great update.

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