Cyclone Debbie

 
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The latest updates for Cyclone Debbie indicates it will be a Category 4 system crossing the North Queensland Coast between Townsville and Proserpine at around 8.00am tomorrow. At over 800km in diameter, even a near miss for towns and cities north of Mackay and south of Ingham will still result in significant damage and flooding, plus the risk of storm surges, and many exposed northern communities have already been evacuated. A voluntary evacuation of the 20,000 residents in the Ayr/Home Hill region is currently underway. 430,000 people live in the effected areas between Mackay and Ingham.

I believe QR has ceased operating rail services north of Mackay and south of Cairns. On the Mt Isa line, no trains are being permitted to operate east of Hughenden. Aurizon shut down operations on the Newlands and Goonyella systems yesterday, with all trains stowed. Aurizon removed all stored rollingstock at the Townsville Port (the sugar sets mostly) to the yards at Stuart and Partington on Saturday. The Ports of Abbot Point, Dalrymple Bay and Hay Point were closed on Saturday. Abbot Point is closest to the expected crossing point, and may potentially sustain damage to the loaders and facilities. Widespread flooding is expected to keep the North Coast Line closed between Mackay and Townsville throughout the next few days, while the Mt Isa line east of Hughenden, the Newlands Line and the Goonyella system are all expected to see flooding related closures as Cyclone Debbie moves inland. Significant inland flooding is anticipated to occur across the Bowen Basin mining region impacting many of Queensland's biggest mines.

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  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Good luck to everyone up there, bloody big storm...
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Assume the rail operators stowed their respective coal fleets well inland?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Assume the rail operators stowed their respective coal fleets well inland?
RTT_Rules
I believe in some cases trains have been stowed on the mainlines where ever crews could be accessed via road. Aurizon's Pring yard and facilities, just north of Bowen, are likely to be exposed to the full force of a Category 4 cyclone today, with wind speeds over 260km. Light towers, signalling and maintenance sheds are likely to be severely tested and power may not be restored for several days. Cyclone Debbie will be carving a path directly across and impacting almost the entire Newlands line. Further south at Sarina, and Aurizon's Jilalan yard is already experiencing heavy rain and gales. Strong winds on the Goonyella system may create problems for the catenary and power supplies. QR's, PN's and Aurizon's Mackay facilities may be impacted by a storm surge, rain, cyclonic winds and power outages. The city of Mackay, with a population of 124,000, saw forced and voluntary evacuations of 25,000 residents yesterday afternoon.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

The overhead system is designed for cyclonic wind, the defined limit on Blackwater is Westwood. Be interesting to see how it copes.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Webcam in the Airlie Beach Area.

http://www.the-webcam-network.com/webcam/Australia/Airlie-Beach/12552.html
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Don't expect any help from the Royal NSW Navy.

ABC reporting that both HMAS Adelaide and Canberra are 'grounded' due to engine defects.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/largest-ships-unable-t...

Perhaps the Chinese can help from their naval base in Darwin.........................Crying or Very sad
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I'd say Lavarack will be on standby for the call over some other state's Navy.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Third Brigade and the 5th Aviation helicopter squadrons from Townsville will be committed to the rescue and recovery operations...up to five thousand personnel. One of the very big advantages of having such a large army base in North Queensland.
  Clyde Goodwin Junior Train Controller

[quote=YM-Mundrabilla]Don't expect any help from the Royal NSW Navy.

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[color=#000000][size=2]Perhaps the Chinese can help from their naval base in Darwin.........................[/size][/color]Crying or Very sad[/quote]You do truely seem to love only posting negative comments across Railpage do you not

HMAS Choules the EX Royal navy Largs Bay vessel is currently enroute to the area
She is a amphibious Landing ship
Capacity: [table][tr][td] [ul][li]1,150 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_metre]linear metres[/url] of vehicles (up to 24 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2_tank]Challenger 2[/url] tanks, 32 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A1_Abrams]M1A1 Abrams[/url] tanks, or 150 light trucks)[/li][li]Cargo capacity of 200 tons ammunition or 24 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit]TEU[/url] containers[/li][/ul] [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]TrAviation facilities: Flight deck can operate helicopters up to Chinook size. Temporary hangar can be fitted as required

So do you think this vessel may be able to provide more than enough support for the region[/td][td]356 standard or 700 overload
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  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Don't expect any help from the Royal NSW Navy.

ABC reporting that both HMAS Adelaide and Canberra are 'grounded' due to engine defects.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/largest-ships-unable-t...

Perhaps the Chinese can help from their naval base in Darwin.........................Crying or Very sad
YM-Mundrabilla
Lol. I didn't know that NSW still had a navy. Qld's was abolished on 1901.
More seriously RAN will be deploying. You don't need the helicopter carriers.There is other more appropriate equipment such as the supply ships that are used more traditionally for post disaster recovery.

What is being deployed is awesome.:
https://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/news/save-human-life-adf-launches-cyclone-debbie-taskfo/3159419/

It was not fun in Mackay, so I do feel for the people further up the road in Whitsunday Shire.

I am part of the recovery efforts in Mackay and the event is still not over as significant rain is falling and we have had heaps in the past week, so there is big chance of flooding and new issues with that will emerge.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
[quote=Clyde Goodwin][quote]Don't expect any help from the Royal NSW Navy.

[color=#000000][size=2][font=Roboto, wf_SegoeUI,]ABC reporting that both HMAS Adelaide and Canberra are 'grounded' due to engine defects.[/font][/size][/color]

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[color=#000000][size=2]Perhaps the Chinese can help from their naval base in Darwin.........................[/size][/color]Crying or Very sad[/quote]You do truely seem to love only posting negative comments across Railpage do you not

HMAS Choules the EX Royal navy Largs Bay vessel is currently enroute to the area
She is a amphibious Landing ship
Capacity: [table][tr][td] [ul][li]1,150 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_metre]linear metres[/url] of vehicles (up to 24 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2_tank]Challenger 2[/url] tanks, 32 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A1_Abrams]M1A1 Abrams[/url] tanks, or 150 light trucks)[/li][li]Cargo capacity of 200 tons ammunition or 24 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit]TEU[/url] containers[/li][/ul] [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]TrAviation facilities: Flight deck can operate helicopters up to Chinook size. Temporary hangar can be fitted as required

So do you think this vessel may be able to provide more than enough support for the region[/td][td]356 standard or 700 overload
[/td][/tr][/table][/quote]Don't know what RP is doing with formatting at the moment.

[color=#000000][size=2][font=Roboto, wf_SegoeUI, "Segoe UI", Segoe, "Segoe WP", Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Bear in mind that this vessel was due to be replaced by the two newer vessels (Canberra and Adelaide) that are currently disabled/defective in Sydney.[/font][/size][/color]
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
[quote=Clyde Goodwin][quote]Don't expect any help from the Royal NSW Navy.

[color=#000000][size=2][font=Roboto, wf_SegoeUI,]ABC reporting that both HMAS Adelaide and Canberra are 'grounded' due to engine defects.[/font][/size][/color]

[color=#0066cc][size=2][font=Roboto, wf_SegoeUI,][url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/largest-ships-unable-to-join-cyclone-debbie-emergency-response/8391574]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/largest-ships-unable-t...[/url][/font][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=2]Perhaps the Chinese can help from their naval base in Darwin.........................[/size][/color]Crying or Very sad[/quote]You do truely seem to love only posting negative comments across Railpage do you not

HMAS Choules the EX Royal navy Largs Bay vessel is currently enroute to the area
She is a amphibious Landing ship
Capacity: [table][tr][td] [ul][li]1,150 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_metre]linear metres[/url] of vehicles (up to 24 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2_tank]Challenger 2[/url] tanks, 32 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A1_Abrams]M1A1 Abrams[/url] tanks, or 150 light trucks)[/li][li]Cargo capacity of 200 tons ammunition or 24 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit]TEU[/url] containers[/li][/ul] [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]TrAviation facilities: Flight deck can operate helicopters up to Chinook size. Temporary hangar can be fitted as required

So do you think this vessel may be able to provide more than enough support for the region[/td][td]356 standard or 700 overload
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Don't know what RP is doing with formatting at the moment.

Bear in mind that this vessel was due to be replaced by the two newer vessels (Canberra and Adelaide) that are currently disabled/defective in Sydney.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Hundreds of Army and SES personnel are currently on the move south from Townsville by road at the moment, working to get through to Bowen and the Whitsundays. Police from Townsville are heading to Bowen by boat this morning, and Ergon is holding off on sending crews until the roads begin to reopen and winds drop. Destructive winds were still being felt around Proserpine and Collinsville (on the Newlands line) this morning, the latter having experienced a Category 2 cyclone for the first time. The Bruce Highway is closed in several places between St Lawrence and Home Hill, mostly by flooding, but between Home Hill and Proserpine there's reports of significant storm debris on the highway exacerbating the closure. No reports on rail damage yet, but the North Coast Line runs beside the Bruce Highway between Home Hill and Bowen. Unprecedented flooding is being reported around Proserpine, and west of Mackay 24-hour rainfall figures have exceeded 1000mm.
  M636C Minister for Railways

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Don't know what RP is doing with formatting at the moment.

Bear in mind that this vessel was due to be replaced by the two newer vessels (Canberra and Adelaide) that are currently disabled/defective in Sydney.
YM-Mundrabilla
HMAS Choules is not to be replaced.

HMAS Canberra and HMAS Adelaide replaced the previous ships Kanimbla and Manoora.

HMAS Choules is quite up to the task of cyclone relief.
It had serious problems with its diesel-electric propulsion system due to mishandling by the Royal Fleet Auxilary before Australia purchased it, but these were corrected.

The two LHD class ships have problems with their electric pod propulsion (from the same supplier as Choules, Siemens)

The long term plans always called for two major ships and one smaller (Not that Choules is small by any means).

To get back to the subject, how did Abbott Point fare in the cyclone?

Peter
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Bowen had maximum wind gusts of 148km/h, so it's likely Abbot Point has received little or no damage, probably the same for Aurizon's facilities at Pring. The ABC reported this morning that Adani would be offering its Abbot Point staff and equipment for the overall cleanup effort.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Two of Townsville's 5th Aviation Regiment's MRH90 helicopters have just headed south - carrying the Premier, Police Commissioner and the commander of Third Brigade to visit Bowen and Proserpine. Heavy rain, high winds and low cloud continue to impact on the region. Area's west of Mackay are currently recording rainfall rates of 100mm/hour, with flooding now the big problem for local rail infrastructure. Between Bowen, Collinsville and the Whitsundays there are now 35,000 residents isolated by floodwaters and cyclone damage, so recovery operations will be a focus on them, ahead of anything else. It does appear PN will run a freight from Townsville to Cairns tonight - the northern end of the North Coast Line, and rail infrastructure around Townsville hasn't been impacted by the passage of the cyclone.
  EMBaldwin Chief Commissioner

Location: Amongst the Cane Fields
Currently 3 MRH-90 Taipan's and 1 Chinook at Bowen airport.

That max wind gust figure provided by BOM is up for debate.  I wad in Ingham for Yasi, and winds we got in Bowen were comparable to that.

Pring crews told to stay home until Friday at the earliest. Don river slowly receding from major flood levels at present.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

The Don in flood? It must have really rained!
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Calle on a 24 hr roster. I scored  BLP tomorrow instead of having to go in.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The ABC is reporting Abbott Point has received some minor damage, and will not be returning to operation until electricity supply is restored and the access channels are inspected by the Australian Navy for flood debris.
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Currently 3 MRH-90 Taipan's and 1 Chinook at Bowen airport.

That max wind gust figure provided by BOM is up for debate.  I wad in Ingham for Yasi, and winds we got in Bowen were comparable to that.

Pring crews told to stay home until Friday at the earliest. Don river slowly receding from major flood levels at present.
EMBaldwin
My understanding is that Collinsville was smashed. So some issues for the local mining industry.

We dodged a bullet in the Mackay region from the cyclone directly but have serious rainfall in the post 24 hours with Kinchant, Teemburra and Middle Creek dams overflowing with serious flooding downstream that included helicopter rescues from roof tops in outlying areas.

As I posted earlier we are better off than Whitsunday from the Cyclone itself, but have major issues with waste, water etc and a lot to do with lack of power and the inability to get additional resources from outside the region. All roads and rail are blocked and the airport only just opened. Helicopters galore.

Anyway we are in recovery mode, but will have resupply issues. At the moment unofficial sources (rumour) are saying we will run out of diesel at some service stations. This will impact our ability to clean up.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

if its anything like Rocky in 1990/91, they will ban fuel sales to private individuals, and only supply to official, accreditated, vehicles. Fuel was eventually barged in from Gladstone to Yeppoon then trucked to Rocky. One major issue for road transport, that has the potential to cause headaches for a while is a bridge at Ogmore that has been damaged. 5 tonne load limit, one way traffic and 10kph speed limit. Heavy vehicles banned.
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Yes the Bruce Highway is limited. My understanding is that fuel is shipped up to Mackay via our port and isn't road hauled up. They use Mackay as a distribution point to the region.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Ex Cyclone Debbie just caused floods in SEQ around Beaudesert and Northern NSW. Murwillumbah's 1954 flood level (the really big one) was exceeded last night and eastern levee bank in town overflowed. Lismore's town levee bank also overflowed according to the news this morning.

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