Ask a musician - Good sounding door alarms

 
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I have been thinking of this, and other rail related audible warnings for a long time, but I would like to know, preferably from musicians, how to make door alarms good sounding.

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  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I have been thinking of this, and other rail related audible warnings for a long time, but I would like to know, preferably from musicians, how to make door alarms good sounding.
"Myrtone"

The best way to make the sound stand out is to use a discordant set of three, four or five notes, which gives a jarring, unmusical sound. This is just the job for warnings such as locomotive horns.
On the other hand, a chord, preferably in a Major key, is pleasant to the ears, and is what I'd use for a door chime.
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
I like the French railway SNCF jingle.
  NorthWest Locomotive Fireman

I like the French railway SNCF jingle.
Typhon
Semi OT, but he is a musician, and that is the French door closing alarm...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1v7hXEQhsQ

In North America, most are doorbell sounds or simulated bells.

*Ding* Doors closing, please stand clear of the moving doors...
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
One idea is to have a doorbell sounding (ding-dong) before a power operated door opens, but not before a button operated door is unlocked.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
When I bought my house, it came with a generic "Ding-dong" doorbell that sounded exactly like every doorbell you hear on TV. If I was out of the room when the TV went "Ding-dong", I was never sure if I had a visitor or it was just the TV. So I was regularly bolting up the hallway to the front door, only to find no one on the doorstep. It drove me crazy.

Having just bought a house, I was too hard up to buy a new doorbell, so I just rearranged things so that my doorbell now goes Dong-ding, rather than Ding-dong. The sound is quite distinctive and 16 years later I'm out of debt, but I feel no need to replace my unique sounding doorbell. Very Happy
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
But what has your house got to do with a door alarms, whether sounding like a doorbell or not?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
But what has your house got to do with a door alarms, whether sounding like a doorbell or not?
Myrtone
God help us; I thought you at least could read. Bogong's house is not what he's talking about; he's talking about modifications to a doorbell. There; I've spelt it out for you.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
But those modifications still don't seem to have anything to do with door alarms.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Apparently you have made yourself an authority on door alarms/door bells, and decided there's a difference. Please spare us any more of your crackpot ideas.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
There are not crackpot ideas, someone mentioned something about the doorbell in his home without explaining what it has to do with any sort of transit vehicle door alarm.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
And would you kindly point out where there is any previous mention of a transit vehicle door alarm in this thread?
The word "crackpot" is well chosen. It's taken you this long to tell us what you're actually talking about.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Most passenger carrying rail vehicles have door alarms of some sort. I thought it would be understood I meant those becasue of the thread where it is. This is not the lounge.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
You are in urgent need of lessons in proper communication.
It's patently obvious that nobody knew what you were raving about this time. Never assume that people know what's going on in your convoluted brain. Tell people plainly what the hell you're talking about.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Whoops. Sorry I has no idea what sort of door Myrtone was talking about.

In the post before mine Myrtone mentioned ding-dong doorbells, so I assumed he was taking about house doors. So I just supplied a quick, easy and free solution to making a doorbell (to a house) sound distinctive. I had no intention of subverting the topic.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
No, I meant the idea of the audible warning before the transit vehicle doors open sounding like a doorbell.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Whoops. Sorry I has no idea what sort of door Myrtone was talking about.
Bogong
You and I suffer from the same ailment - neither of us is a mind-reader.
There were eleven posts before Mr Myrtone deigned to tell us exactly what the subject is.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Regardless of crackpots, I would have thought that a transit vehicle's audible door alarm should be exactly that - an alarm, a warning that the door is about to open or close.  As such, it should be attention grabbing, distinctive and probably not all that "musical".  The last thing you would want is to mistake that sound for something else and possibly ignore it.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I can't imagine a door opening alarm sounding like a doorbell being mistaken for a doorbell at a home, as they are heard in different contexts.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
A transit vehicle door alarm sound should be unique, and immediately identifiable as such and as nothing else.  It should not sound like something else, regardless of context.  Particularly important in the case of disabled passengers.

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