Aurizon prepares to sell its Intermodal Division

 
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
I'd almost think that Woolies may move the DC if rail makes sense...

Why is it in Warwick anyway?

Built in the mid to late 1990s before the Inland Rail project was on the horizon, it directly accesses the Newell and New England Corridors from the south - the latter runs all the way to the South Burnett, joining highways that then access into Central and North Queensland. Most importantly it has direct road access to all of Brisbane and the Gold Coast - which essentially makes Warwick the best location for Hub and Spoke Distribution for South East Queensland. Toowoomba would probably be a second choice, but without direct road access to the Gold Coast and over 600,000 shoppers, that was no doubt the deal breaker for second place. I can't see the Distribution Centre being moved so rail can be added to the mix, the location is the reason it's there, and rail will have to adapt to better serve that location if rail operators become interested.
Sulla1
Trying to get my head around the Woolworths distribution centre business and possible rail links that may be used by potential Aurizon buyers. ArthurS mentioned the Warwick one and I know there is also a huge Woolworths Regional Distribution Centre in Larapinta, adjacent to the Logan Motorway on the southside of Brisbane. The interstate standard gauge line passes near Larapinta and the partly built dual gauge part of that standard gauge line extends in that area.

Also recall Nth QLD (Townsville) also receives Woolworths bulk items by rail for a Nth QLD distribution centre or did in the recent past. Or was that Coles and not Woolworth? Floods cut rail lines to Nth QLD and so Woolworths / Coles have no or reduced stock and one year in recent years, due floods, stock for supermarket shelves was trucked from the south via Alice Springs / Mt Isa and into Townsville that way.

The Woolworths Larapinta data https://www.watpac.com.au/project/woolworths-brisbane-regional-distribution-centre/

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  br30453 Chief Train Controller

I'd almost think that Woolies may move the DC if rail makes sense...

Why is it in Warwick anyway?

Built in the mid to late 1990s before the Inland Rail project was on the horizon, it directly accesses the Newell and New England Corridors from the south - the latter runs all the way to the South Burnett, joining highways that then access into Central and North Queensland. Most importantly it has direct road access to all of Brisbane and the Gold Coast - which essentially makes Warwick the best location for Hub and Spoke Distribution for South East Queensland. Toowoomba would probably be a second choice, but without direct road access to the Gold Coast and over 600,000 shoppers, that was no doubt the deal breaker for second place. I can't see the Distribution Centre being moved so rail can be added to the mix, the location is the reason it's there, and rail will have to adapt to better serve that location if rail operators become interested.
Trying to get my head around the Woolworths distribution centre business and possible rail links that may be used by potential Aurizon buyers. ArthurS mentioned the Warwick one and I know there is also a huge Woolworths Regional Distribution Centre in Larapinta, adjacent to the Logan Motorway on the southside of Brisbane. The interstate standard gauge line passes near Larapinta and the partly built dual gauge part of that standard gauge line extends in that area.

Also recall Nth QLD (Townsville) also receives Woolworths bulk items by rail for a Nth QLD distribution centre or did in the recent past. Or was that Coles and not Woolworth? Floods cut rail lines to Nth QLD and so Woolworths / Coles have no or reduced stock and one year in recent years, due floods, stock for supermarket shelves was trucked from the south via Alice Springs / Mt Isa and into Townsville that way.

The Woolworths Larapinta data https://www.watpac.com.au/project/woolworths-brisbane-regional-distribution-centre/
petan
The Woolworths distriution centre at Warwick is a BigW one, a different animal.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

I'd almost think that Woolies may move the DC if rail makes sense...

Why is it in Warwick anyway?

Built in the mid to late 1990s before the Inland Rail project was on the horizon, it directly accesses the Newell and New England Corridors from the south - the latter runs all the way to the South Burnett, joining highways that then access into Central and North Queensland. Most importantly it has direct road access to all of Brisbane and the Gold Coast - which essentially makes Warwick the best location for Hub and Spoke Distribution for South East Queensland. Toowoomba would probably be a second choice, but without direct road access to the Gold Coast and over 600,000 shoppers, that was no doubt the deal breaker for second place. I can't see the Distribution Centre being moved so rail can be added to the mix, the location is the reason it's there, and rail will have to adapt to better serve that location if rail operators become interested.
Trying to get my head around the Woolworths distribution centre business and possible rail links that may be used by potential Aurizon buyers. ArthurS mentioned the Warwick one and I know there is also a huge Woolworths Regional Distribution Centre in Larapinta, adjacent to the Logan Motorway on the southside of Brisbane. The interstate standard gauge line passes near Larapinta and the partly built dual gauge part of that standard gauge line extends in that area.

Also recall Nth QLD (Townsville) also receives Woolworths bulk items by rail for a Nth QLD distribution centre or did in the recent past. Or was that Coles and not Woolworth? Floods cut rail lines to Nth QLD and so Woolworths / Coles have no or reduced stock and one year in recent years, due floods, stock for supermarket shelves was trucked from the south via Alice Springs / Mt Isa and into Townsville that way.

The Woolworths Larapinta data https://www.watpac.com.au/project/woolworths-brisbane-regional-distribution-centre/
petan
The Woolworths Townsville Distribution Centre is located in the Bohle, about twenty kilometres north of the Aurizon and PN intermodal yards, even though the NCL is only about one kilometre from the facility. It serves over forty Woolworths stores across North Queensland - one of which, Fairfield in Townsville, has the highest Sunday trading figures in Queensland - with the "Fresh", "Chilled" and "Produce" product lines.

During the January 2011 floods, the ADF had to be drafted in to keep Townsville and Cairns supplied when all road and rail access into North Queensland was cut for more than three weeks in "Operation Queensland Flood Assist", the largest defence deployment for a natural disaster since Cyclone Tracy, with 1600 personnel eventually deployed to supply nearly 600,000 residents.
  emerald-a Locomotive Driver

Latest on Linfox transition, with news from Mt Isa...

https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/5839720/dozens-of-mount-isa-aurizon-jobs-saved-by-linfox/?fbclid=IwAR13Bth_ZOODPvNFs8nH-eU635ZT80Dhn4lxiWC4BlTHME3ZrTbZPYPFPWQ

Clearly to my mind anyhow there is still life and perhaps growth in the Arizon intermodal business.  I do hope they build the rail business and don't just move the freight to road?

Includes the gauge changing terminal in Brisbane.
bevans
Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Latest on Linfox transition, with news from Mt Isa...

https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/5839720/dozens-of-mount-isa-aurizon-jobs-saved-by-linfox/?fbclid=IwAR13Bth_ZOODPvNFs8nH-eU635ZT80Dhn4lxiWC4BlTHME3ZrTbZPYPFPWQ

Clearly to my mind anyhow there is still life and perhaps growth in the Arizon intermodal business.  I do hope they build the rail business and don't just move the freight to road?

Includes the gauge changing terminal in Brisbane.
Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
emerald-a
Looking from the outside, Linfox are on a take or pay contract with Aurizon so they bear the financial risk.  It is in their interest to build a rail business for this work and reduce the risk of making a loss on the take or pay...
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Latest on Linfox transition, with news from Mt Isa...

https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/5839720/dozens-of-mount-isa-aurizon-jobs-saved-by-linfox/?fbclid=IwAR13Bth_ZOODPvNFs8nH-eU635ZT80Dhn4lxiWC4BlTHME3ZrTbZPYPFPWQ

Clearly to my mind anyhow there is still life and perhaps growth in the Arizon intermodal business.  I do hope they build the rail business and don't just move the freight to road?

Includes the gauge changing terminal in Brisbane.
Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
emerald-a
The new freight traffic from Longreach / Emerald etc would have to interact with the very heavy coal traffic. My assumption is a freight could have a higher speed than a coal train so a slower coalie in front of a freighter might slow down a freighter.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

There were paths for two? return freights and also conditional cattle and grain trains. I don't think this line is saturated with traffic.
Neill Farmer
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
There were paths for two? return freights and also conditional cattle and grain trains. I don't think this line is saturated with traffic.
Neill Farmer
neillfarmer
Although my question referred to the heavy coal traffic portion of the Central line that the extra freights from west of Emerald would need to use as well.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

There were paths for two? return freights and also conditional cattle and grain trains. I don't think this line is saturated with traffic.
Neill Farmer
Although my question referred to the heavy coal traffic portion of the Central line that the extra freights from west of Emerald would need to use as well.
petan
As long as everything moves at the same speed, capacity shouldn't be too much of a problem, a substantial percentage of the Central Line is now duplicated, and it carries fewer trains than the duplicated section of the NCL between Gladstone and Rocklands. A hypothetical daily freight added to the currently scheduled grain, cattle and passenger services shouldn't be too hard to squeeze in.
  emerald-a Locomotive Driver

Latest on Linfox transition, with news from Mt Isa...

https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/5839720/dozens-of-mount-isa-aurizon-jobs-saved-by-linfox/?fbclid=IwAR13Bth_ZOODPvNFs8nH-eU635ZT80Dhn4lxiWC4BlTHME3ZrTbZPYPFPWQ

Clearly to my mind anyhow there is still life and perhaps growth in the Arizon intermodal business.  I do hope they build the rail business and don't just move the freight to road?

Includes the gauge changing terminal in Brisbane.
Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
The new freight traffic from Longreach / Emerald etc would have to interact with the very heavy coal traffic. My assumption is a freight could have a higher speed than a coal train so a slower coalie in front of a freighter might slow down a freighter.
petan

Before you get onto extra services the existing services have space for an extra 30 or so wagons on each of them on average,

Adding them would be a trebling of the amount moved at present.

With regards to adding extra services it is likely to only be a return to the situation 5-6 years ago when there were 3 services a week so only a single additional service.

As others have said with the line duplicated, the amount of trains that stop to change crews at Bluff and Kabra and the spare paths fitting it in to run smoothly wouldn't be too hard.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Although my question referred to the heavy coal traffic portion of the Central line that the extra freights from west of Emerald would need to use as well.
petan
Solved my confusion by downloading Aurizon's Blackwater System Information Pack Issue 7.0 March 2017. That told me Burngrove on the Central Line to Rocklands (202.3 km) and down to Callemondah (98.6 km) that the General Freights are allowed 100kph and the coalies are allowed 80kph at 26.5 tal.

For some strange reason I thought the coalies were limited to 60kph when fully loaded which is why I wondered if that would result in traffic conflicts between faster shorter freighters and very long slow lumbering coalies. I did see the bit about duplicated track with crossovers signalled for bi-directional running. Anyway, you can have your thread back now.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
emerald-a
Seeing more Aurizon containers with the name painted over. Who owns these now?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
Seeing more Aurizon containers with the name painted over. Who owns these now?
Groundrelay
Not sure if these were leased or owned by Aurizon, but most likely these containers would be part of the transition to Linfox ownership. Linfox operations begin on February 1st.
  david harvey Station Master

Location: Eastern Victoria
What is happening with the former army land at Morebank Road Liverpool

Is that was going to be a distribution centre.

I believe it is still owned by the Federal Government and and leased to who ever. Is this correct ?.

Has any traffic been generated or is a rail connection not yet established
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Latest on Linfox transition, with news from Mt Isa...

https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/5839720/dozens-of-mount-isa-aurizon-jobs-saved-by-linfox/?fbclid=IwAR13Bth_ZOODPvNFs8nH-eU635ZT80Dhn4lxiWC4BlTHME3ZrTbZPYPFPWQ

Clearly to my mind anyhow there is still life and perhaps growth in the Arizon intermodal business.  I do hope they build the rail business and don't just move the freight to road?

Includes the gauge changing terminal in Brisbane.
Chatting to people who have had Linfox executives visit them to talk about want they want to achieve post takeover it certainly seems that they are serious about increasing freight volumes on rail.

Time will tell how the talk translates to action.
emerald-a

If Linfox go pro-rail for the routes they have in Queensland and why wouldn't they then this could be really good news for customers who are clearly more conscious about the environment now than they ever were.

Maybe Linfox will consider new rail connected DC's across the network?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/corporates-lend-weight-to-accc-push-against-200-million-deal-20190120-p50sgv.html

Corporates are not supportive of a PN take-over of Acacia Ridge.

(I won't copy the full article as it should be available to most of you without a paywall)
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

As far as I know today is the last day of Aurizon's intermodal operations, with Linfox taking over tonight. Just to add to the fun, the Bruce Highway and North Coast Line are both closed north and south of Townsville due to severe flooding, and yesterday Aurizon was trucking containers north from Mackay before the highway was closed. Needless to say, Linfox's start-up will be "interesting" for them.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
At least it's not a full startup - lots of the Aurizon people will know how to operate in some form.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Staff are being retained so imagine they know how to operate the business and this will only be a management change if that ?
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
This news article online https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/linfox-shifts-deeper-into-rail-with-aurizon-intermodal-acquisition does not paint a flattering picture for the management at Aurizon who it seems have ignored investing in the business and according to Linfox could have run the business a lot better also.
  emerald-a Locomotive Driver

This news article online https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/linfox-shifts-deeper-into-rail-with-aurizon-intermodal-acquisition does not paint a flattering picture for the management at Aurizon who it seems have ignored investing in the business and according to Linfox could have run the business a lot better also.
x31

It only paints an unflattering picture of Aurizon management if you assume that investing in the freight business would produce  a better return on investment than investing in other parts of the business instead.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

Aurizon and Linfox are supposed to be partners in this enterprise. If they keep this sniping up it won't last long.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Not really.  Linfox owns the business and if they want to signal to their customers that they are willing to invest, then it's just business.

Aurizon is just the hook and pull operator,  They can be replaced if locos can be sourced.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Aurizon is just the hook and pull operator,  They can be replaced if locos can be sourced.
james.au
Of course, but that would take time. Imagine if all services stopped while locos are built overseas, imported and tested!
  emerald-a Locomotive Driver

Aurizon and Linfox are supposed to be partners in this enterprise. If they keep this sniping up it won't last long.
neillfarmer
Well it will last at least 5 years

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