Ballarat Line upgrades underway

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 20 Nov 2017 12:49
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Does this actually mean they have started work or started planning?

Ballarat Line upgrades underway

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  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
A Quote from the article :

"To protect them from damage during construction, endangered native species such as the spiny rice flowers and large-fruit groundsels will be removed and relocated to a nearby location".

I guess that will take a bit of time.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
There was a report on “The Courier” (Ballarat) a few weeks back that the Ballan double track was to start at Ingliston Road and go though to 2 Km’s West of Geelong - Ballan Road.
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Does this actually mean they have started work or started planning?

Ballarat Line upgrades underway
x31
I drove over the Hopkins Rd LXing last Thursday week (19/10). It was about 0700 and the traffic in the vicinity of the crossing in serious disarray. There were quite a number of 'tradie' type vehicles literally converging on the space on the Up side on the Western end of the crossing. I thought to myself, "Hmmm, looks like site establishment works getting underway", seems I was correct.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Does this actually mean they have started work or started planning?

Ballarat Line upgrades underway
x31
Planning and consultation has been ongoing, early concept work is already shown on the new station upgrades.

This seems to be early works. Actual pure construction work will start in early 2018 and will finish in 2019.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
The works are much closer to the road than the station and I suspect they may be drainage related.
Also there's a smallish pile of ballast and sleepers just down from Caroline Springs south of the track.


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  L-1172 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Working hard like a donkey at my wife's computer.
Surveying work was being undertaken on the north side of the rail line at the base of the Toolern Creek bridge at Melton at lunchtime on Saturday the 27th of January, 2018 when I was driving past. A new bridge will need to be constructed over the creek as part of the duplication works.

Regards,

Robert.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
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Official government website here.

As per the discussion in the Murray Basin thread, this project is/maybe impacting staging of the remaining sections of the MB project.

Can someone give some detail as to what is happening from Ballan to Wendouree?  How much line duplication etc is happening.  It is mentioned that there is a 2nd platform at Wendouree being built - what does this mean?

(thanks @potatoinmymouth)
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Yes better thread.

While trains are not running, work will progress on the Millbrook passing loop, with around 750 metres of rail being shifted to create space for new track.

Crews will install safety fencing so construction can begin on the new 4.5-kilometre Ballan passing loop. The two new passing loops will boost reliability and enable extra services to run on the line.

The works blitz also includes relocating underground services, extending six-metre long drainage culverts under the tracks between Caroline Springs Station and Melton South, and installing two new rail turnouts along the line.

Ms Allan said as services are not currently running, V/Line has made arrangements to ensure passengers can get where they needed to go as quickly as possible. “Crews will be working around the clock over five days, to get critical construction done while trains are not running,” she said. “Trains will continue to run between Southern Cross Station and Caroline Springs during these works and this arrangement means passengers can get to their destinations faster.”

While construction on this essential project continues, coaches will replace Ballarat, Ararat and Maryborough trains for all or part of the journey from Saturday 16 June to Wednesday 20 June. Trains will continue to run between Caroline Springs and Southern Cross Station during these works.

This means disruption will be minimised for passengers travelling from Wendouree, Ballarat, Ballan and Bacchus Marsh, particularly during peak periods, as coaches will not get caught up in traffic over the West Gate Bridge.

More information on the changes for June.  I also think this project has not been thought through correctly.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Yes better thread.

While trains are not running, work will progress on the Millbrook passing loop, with around 750 metres of rail being shifted to create space for new track.

Crews will install safety fencing so construction can begin on the new 4.5-kilometre Ballan passing loop. The two new passing loops will boost reliability and enable extra services to run on the line.

The works blitz also includes relocating underground services, extending six-metre long drainage culverts under the tracks between Caroline Springs Station and Melton South, and installing two new rail turnouts along the line.

Ms Allan said as services are not currently running, V/Line has made arrangements to ensure passengers can get where they needed to go as quickly as possible. “Crews will be working around the clock over five days, to get critical construction done while trains are not running,” she said. “Trains will continue to run between Southern Cross Station and Caroline Springs during these works and this arrangement means passengers can get to their destinations faster.”

While construction on this essential project continues, coaches will replace Ballarat, Ararat and Maryborough trains for all or part of the journey from Saturday 16 June to Wednesday 20 June. Trains will continue to run between Caroline Springs and Southern Cross Station during these works.

This means disruption will be minimised for passengers travelling from Wendouree, Ballarat, Ballan and Bacchus Marsh, particularly during peak periods, as coaches will not get caught up in traffic over the West Gate Bridge.

More information on the changes for June.  I also think this project has not been thought through correctly.
bevans
That's being a bit harsh.  At least it's going to join the Bacchus Marsh and Rowsley loops to create one long loop.  The long old Bungaree loop will be history, and Melton duplication will be a welcome improvement.

It's Ballarat - Ballan that'll be fun, especially in trying to separate BG from SG, along with Wendouree duplication and providing (I hope!) SG access to the new intermodal there.
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high for any Sg thru Ballarat anytime soon.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
To quote an orange haired politician. "Please explain"?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
To quoye an orange haired politician. "Please explain"?
james.au
Railpage in a Nutshell on BG Sad



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZRZSGxcE
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

The duplication and second platform at Bacchus Marsh extend double track to the new stabling at Maddingley, but the double track will NOT extend as far as the useless and poorly sited crossing loop at Rowsley.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
How much and where will double track be on this line then?  Perhaps start from Ballarat Station and work in?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

  • Double track to Melton
  • Double track Bacchus Marsh to new stabling at Maddingley (3km), including second platform at the Marsh; NOT connected to Rowsley loop
  • 4.5km passing loop at Ballan including second platform at Ballan
  • 4km loop at Millbrook replacing Bungaree loop
  • Second platform at Wendouree for terminating trains

From fact sheet here

edit: The Warrenheip duplication, mentioned in the earliest press releases, appears to have disappeared from the project scope...
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

I sent an email; here is the response;



“Hi,



Thanks for getting in touch.



The Warrenheip track duplication was removed from the scope of our project in December last year.



In place of this, we announced we would be building an extra three kilometres of track between Bacchus Marsh Station and Rowsley Station Road in Maddingley, allowing trains to move in and out of the nearby stabling facilities more quickly. Also, we announced we would also be building a new platform and track at Wendouree Station, delivering more reliable services.



These refinements remove the need to duplicate track at Warrenheip and mean less tree removal and excavation.”

Apologies for text size!
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Thanks for asking them @potatoinmymouth.  

At the time they made such a deal about removing 5 level crossings too as I remember it.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The 4 km loop proposed at Speadeagle (people are calling It Millbrook) looks like It will pass under Speadeagle Road and Peerewenerh Road overpasses.
These two overpasses look like they were designed for double track, but the mainline today takes a more centered path under the overpasses.
There Is mention of 750 metres of track re alignment In the media (as part of the upcoming shutdown) would this be at these two overpasses ?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If I am reading this correctly the plan "was" to build a third track between Warrenheip and Ballarat leaving the proposed Dual Gauge line connecting to Geelong separate from the plans?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
If I am reading this correctly the plan "was" to build a third track between Warrenheip and Ballarat
bevans
That was mentioned as a long term plan, In that report related to possible Western Victoria passenger services.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If I am reading this correctly the plan "was" to build a third track between Warrenheip and Ballarat
That was mentioned as a long term plan, In that report related to possible Western Victoria passenger services.
Nightfire

I am not certain this 3rd track would really be required as the south line could be dual gauge?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
If I am reading this correctly the plan "was" to build a third track between Warrenheip and Ballarat
That was mentioned as a long term plan, In that report related to possible Western Victoria passenger services.

I am not certain this 3rd track would really be required as the south line could be dual gauge?
bevans
Bevens, Please Stop Dribbling Foam about SG we all know that the True Gauge of Victoria is 5'3
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

"... True Gauge of Victoria is 5'3"
Dangersdan707
Quite possibly, all depends on how you interpret that statement.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
A few things  

I wonder how accurate or real the diagrams were that were provided on the Horsham passenger rail study. I mean we have assumed they were with reference to real plans but they may have been plans made up by Hearsch et al for the report (or their grand scheme for regional rail).  

Also, as we have seen up thread the plans have changed quite a bit in December and it may have been that at the time of the Murray Basin business case the design work for the Ballast region was highly conceptual at best. I think it is forseeable that as they've actually sat down and thought about it its quite a bit harder to get SG through Ballast than assumed for the busines case.

Whilst they should have known this at the time of the BC things have changed and the conversion works might indeed need to be slowed to make sure they don't hobble the network.  Keeping the Sea Lake and Manangatang lines plus the Maryborough to Gheringhap section of track as BG for another 12 months whilst they sort out Ballarat would make sense.

Looking at some street view photos and line diagrams I can see how it is going to be difficult to do the works through Ballarat and keep passenger services relatively disruption free.

I am also thinking the addition of the second platform at Wendouree may easily accommodate SG services of they decide to convert Ararat to SG and the existing BGs can carry on as they do now.

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