8606 & 4615

 
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Video by highplains68 shared on flickr showing 8606 hauling the robel rail train through the rain at Auburn station bound for the city circle

https://www.flickr.com/photos/highplains68/31720043777/

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  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Another video shared by Myles-Harris Ayling of 8606 passing through Petersham with a Waratah while hauling the robel rail train bound for city circle



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcoeCwzCwe8


https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1729172803849588?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDbC64zKlr8Cmll3Sx9JmHwrx3oV6XE-BZayr-UWHWNkkFnkZGi5483uY8IJoeaUg4zGpYD8ycwtdZXP9gOBCFzJGQWGGRN7tlvhUm5vaIJXSZdvLL3mD4EvKnjyIbsH0ynVePeHdmVKjy4EqcEBQ5OkhuJDMswfQVpzd6i2S_xllXNUbQYvzJF9BHnP-H_k8uCDNKKz4Jl6DWlezMxMSvTemGyzOqGEddtJjgfVyeSrVMpTCLYVsrsqQNoLD9DRKNjnzQ7TMYNnBOwPMfTPgGP_2ZoB0YIWhsrISY5EGdt0KVIrvKzTLkj9yXb9iyXbl3gBKRqbdIGDChQ97JNsw&__tn__=-R

Another update from SETS website that 8606 will once again tonight be used on a robel rail train.

"8606 and Robel train are again scheduled to operate tonight. Due to arrive Platform 17 at 2150, however based on the last two nights, this could be delayed anything up to an hour. We will provide updates from around 2100.

Tonight could be the last night in the current programme of works if they are completed tonight, so get out there tonight in preference to waiting until tomorrow."
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Update just posted on the SETS facebook page, 8606 is scheduled to do underground work trains for the new few nights (including tonight)

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1792712924162242


"Apologies for the late notice, but 8606 will be working in the City Inner for the next few nights.
If anyone would like to get any photos/videos, it will be departing Clyde around 8pm and heading via the Bankstown Line to Central.
Museum station is expected to be a good spot for photos/vidoes this time around."
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

According to a comment to the above SETS post on their facebook page looks like 8606 failed. Hopefully nothing major.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

So it seems the failure of 8606 on it's last working was a faulty traction motor which it seems might be swapped out for a spare. It was hauled south from DELEC to Progress Rail at Port Kembla loco by PN loco 8164 on 12 March 2019. Some photos on NSW Railways Past and Present facebook page.


11 March 2019
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NSWRailwaysPastandPresent/permalink/3064929836866142/


14 March 2019
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NSWRailwaysPastandPresent/permalink/3068844923141300/
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Latest update on status of 8606 as per SETS website:-

8606 was scheduled to haul the Robel Rail train again from the 25 February 2019 on the City Inner. However the loco suffered an interpole fault on its number 1 traction motor. The loco was first taken to DELEC for examination and then to LMC Port Kembla for removal of this traction motor. The motor then received a full overhaul, including all necessary repairs. Following its reinstallation, 8606 was successfully tested on 12 April 2019.

The loco was photographed being hauled from Port Kembla back to Sydney a day later on Saturday, 13 April 2019.

FLICKR is down at the moment but I'll update this post with some photographs that were shared of the movement.


Credit to "Thomas" for these shots

12 April 2019. 8606 at Port Kembla
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trainman3801/33733713658/

13 April 2019. 8606 hauled d/a by PN Loco 8253 through Thirroul on the way back to Sydney
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trainman3801/40644522183/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trainman3801/46886771544/

13 April 2019. 8253 hauls 8606 d/a through Engadine
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trainman3801/46886773124/
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Damaged panto when tangled in the overhead overnight while working E702 for Sydney Trains causing major disruption to freight services around Enfield and Chullora.
  Trainnut12 Beginner

Looks like the damage to the pantos was quite serious after 8606 was sent down an unwired crossover.
https://www.facebook.com/288346151265601/posts/1857507881016079?sfns=mo

Will be interesting to see if the current pantographs are repaired or if another pair will be used...
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

A bit of a bad run as of late with the traction motor issue and now first service back departing Enfield yards and this although it seems this was not the fault of the loco itself. Hopefully the pantograph issue didn't have any negative effects on the rest of the loco in terms of electronic/mechanical equipment.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
runs in three's doesn't it?
how many is this, SydneyCider?
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

8606 ran light night doing some rail drops in the city underground. It will also run tonight, tomorrow night and Thursday night. According to a facebook post they fitted it with a temporary pantograph which was overhauled last week and 2 others will be overhauled. At the moment, it's only fitted with a single pantograph although it seems there is no issue with it running like that.

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1879040005529533
  a6et Minister for Railways

8606 ran light night doing some rail drops in the city underground. It will also run tonight, tomorrow night and Thursday night. According to a facebook post they fitted it with a temporary pantograph which was overhauled last week and 2 others will be overhauled. At the moment, it's only fitted with a single pantograph although it seems there is no issue with it running like that.

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1879040005529533
SydneyCider
While I never set foot inside an 86cl I did work on many 46cl. The 46cl when in MU had to have only one Panto up in the metro areas inside the line borders, running LE they had only one panto up on singles and doubles, while on single loads, they had both up.

Depending on the actual load and work being performed was the 86's worked in the same way? tend to remember someone commenting on this.  If some light work is being done in the underground then I would think they would only need to have one pan up.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I was qualified for and worked them in the early mid 1990s .
Going back a while but I think the restrictions were how many pans up and how much upward pressure they exerted on the contact wire . With two I think you could have both up and the main advantage of this was if you got panto bounce at speed they rarely both bounced
at the same time so the engine would generally not trip out (no volt relays) .
I can't remember the story with 3 but we always ran only one up with quads on Illawarra coal trains .
There were also power restrictions which limited the motor combinations you could run ie Series Parallel with no weak fields .
  a6et Minister for Railways

I was qualified for and worked them in the early mid 1990s .
Going back a while but I think the restrictions were how many pans up and how much upward pressure they exerted on the contact wire . With two I think you could have both up and the main advantage of this was if you got panto bounce at speed they rarely both bounced
at the same time so the engine would generally not trip out (no volt relays) .
I can't remember the story with 3 but we always ran only one up with quads on Illawarra coal trains .
There were also power restrictions which limited the motor combinations you could run ie Series Parallel with no weak fields .
BDA
Thanks for that info.  We never had more than 2 46 together on trains, I do recollect seeing triple in LE to Sydney yard though once they all had only one panto up, all up outside the borders on doubles but single had both up on trains. Its been a long time though since on them.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Some photos and videos of 8606 in action last night (30 April 2019)


Video by Zach Dray 8606 arriving at Platform 20 Central Station to travel via City Inner city circle to drop off rail
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NSWRailwaysPastandPresent/permalink/3190627547629703/

Photo by Zach Dray of 8606 at Central Platform 20
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NSWRailwaysPastandPresent/permalink/3190695604289564/

Photo by Thomas Bulic of 8606 at St James Station
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NSWRailwaysPastandPresent/permalink/3190635497628908/
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

8606 will be working the Robel Rail train from tonight until Thursday dropping rail on the City Outer this time round

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1898210326945834
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Post on SETS facebook page, looking for volunteers to help them wash 8606 on Wednesday at Clyde

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1930392317060968

I'll take a guess that perhaps it might appear at the TH Expo?
  fzr560 Chief Train Controller

Post on SETS facebook page, looking for volunteers to help them wash 8606 on Wednesday at Clyde

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1930392317060968

I'll take a guess that perhaps it might appear at the TH Expo?
SydneyCider
If they were fair dinkum, surely they should apply 6 months of coal dust and catenary sludge.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Some photos shared by SETS on their facebook page of today's work by volunteers in helping to clean up 8606.

https://www.facebook.com/setsAU/posts/1933409676759232

If 8606 does appear at the TH Expo this weekend, if I'm not mistaken, this will be the very first time you'll see an operational 86 class in same space as an operational AD60 Garratt. I know that an 85 double-headed with 6029 on the Blue Mountains line sometime 1979-1981 before 6029 was put out of service with boiler issues. I've also shared a photo in the 46 class thread of the prototype electric loco 7100 (4501) double heading with an AD60 Garratt in the late 50's or early 60's. The 46 class were also of course very much operational when 6029 last ran in 1981, but this will be a very first time to see a Garratt and an 86 in the same space, let alone both being operational

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