Watco wins GrainCorp's Queensland contract

 
  qldchook Locomotive Driver

Brand new grain wagons have been unloaded at Brisbane Fisherman Islands!

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  jmt Deputy Commissioner
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
https://www.watcocompanies.com/news/dispatch/
The Dispatch, Volume 20, Issue 5 - May 2019

Cab image on page 4
jmt
Looks similar to the E.M.D. Cabs on the GT42CU-AC/GT42CU-ACe
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.
Sulla1

Strongly rumoured to be on a boat from South Africa arriving in Port Adelaide tomorrow. Next port of call - Brisbane.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.

Strongly rumoured to be on a boat from South Africa arriving in Port Adelaide tomorrow. Next port of call - Brisbane.
bingley hall
Interesting combo. Oz built locos, modified in South Africa and to be modified again with US built cabs.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.

Strongly rumoured to be on a boat from South Africa arriving in Port Adelaide tomorrow. Next port of call - Brisbane.
Interesting combo. Oz built locos, modified in South Africa and to be modified again with US built cabs.
nswtrains

As far as I know the cabs shown in the Watco newsletter are for the eight new locos being built by NRE in Paducah, Kentucky.
  GS4 Train Controller

Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.

Strongly rumoured to be on a boat from South Africa arriving in Port Adelaide tomorrow. Next port of call - Brisbane.
bingley hall
A ship named Thunder Bird has offloaded 5 locos in Whyalla ,  

I saw it on ....

https://www.facebook.com/groups/QLDRAILDAYSGONEBY/  

you'll have to join and scroll down a bit ...

The ship is headed to Brisbane next.  More locos to drop off I guess.  Some posts on the FB site say the locos had vacuum brake fitted and coupler heights changed.  Wait and see as usual.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.

Strongly rumoured to be on a boat from South Africa arriving in Port Adelaide tomorrow. Next port of call - Brisbane.
A ship named Thunder Bird has offloaded 5 locos in Whyalla ,  

I saw it on ....

https://www.facebook.com/groups/QLDRAILDAYSGONEBY/  

you'll have to join and scroll down a bit ...

The ship is headed to Brisbane next.  More locos to drop off I guess.  Some posts on the FB site say the locos had vacuum brake fitted and coupler heights changed.  Wait and see as usual.
GS4

That's Facebook for you.......

The ship did not go to Whyalla.

Five ex QR locos which we think are destined for Whyalla were offloaded in Port Adelaide yesterday.

It was thought that another 5, those reportedly for Watco, were also on board, but current thinking is that not to be the case. Next port of call is Brisbane so if someone could be there to double check that would be great Razz
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Railway Digest is reporting Watco's secondhand locomotives coming from South Africa are 2260-2262, 2269 and 2275. These were purchased by Progress and it is believed these have heen lightened from their original 110-tonnes for a contract in Zimbabwe that did not eventuate.

Strongly rumoured to be on a boat from South Africa arriving in Port Adelaide tomorrow. Next port of call - Brisbane.
A ship named Thunder Bird has offloaded 5 locos in Whyalla ,    
I saw it on ....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/QLDRAILDAYSGONEBY/  
you'll have to join and scroll down a bit ...
The ship is headed to Brisbane next.  More locos to drop off I guess.  Some posts on the FB site say the locos had vacuum brake fitted and coupler heights changed.  Wait and see as usual.
GS4
The actual statement on that Facebook group was (quote) Ex QR clyde locomotives 2275,2260,2261,2262,2269 being unloaded at Port Adelaide bound for Whyalla (end quote) as I copied that statement at 1.05 pm Friday. Unless the Facebook person has edited the post, of course.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

I have had some second thoughts re the Thunder Bird

She was very slow discharging at Port Adelaide, as she had to remove tween decks, and stack these on the wharf

You can see the tweens in front of the prime mover @ https://www.flickr.com/photos/27106288@N04/48141344907/in/dateposted-public/

The first 4 locos discharged were therefor on the tank tops, appeared to have been stacked slightly towards the bow, from a center line between the cranes

Located ship plans, tank tops are 13.5 meters wide, so locos stacked 4 wide. until I located the drawings, was thinking 3 locos wide

Possibility that the 5th loco discharged was on a tween deck, aft of where the initial 4 2250 discharged were stowed

So there is room in the vessel for 5 x 2170 (or should we now call them 35800's?), 4 on the tank tops, aft of where the 2250 were stowed, with the 5th on the tween deck above

2269 https://www.flickr.com/photos/27106288@N04/48141355622/in/dateposted-public/
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
https://www.watcocompanies.com/news/dispatch/
The Dispatch, Volume 20, Issue 5 - May 2019

Cab image on page 4
Looks similar to the E.M.D. Cabs on the GT42CU-AC/GT42CU-ACe
Jack Le Lievre
The Dispatch, Volume 20, Issue 7 - July 2019

http://watcocompanies.com/pdfs/Dispatch_2019/7JulyWeb2019.pdf

Photo of an almost completed WRA001 on page 7. Along with a photo of DGWY0001-M being tied down after being unloaded at the Port of Brisbane.

WRA001 definitely a poor man's GT42CU-AC/GT42CU-ACe, and they seem to have made it ugly.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Note the similar fishbelly frame to the Qube E-3000E3B, and NRE/Grindrod RL30SCC-3 (frames 0025-0093)
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
Overnight Watco posted a photo of a nearly complete WRA001 to it’s Facebook page. From the cab back it’s as expected, a GT clone riding on 5650 bogies. I can’t pick whose welding is worse; the NRE bits or the cab fabricated by Watco. All that can be said for the welding is rough sadly. I also have a sneaky suspicion that no one has learnt from the “high windscreen saga” of the 1100 and 1200 and we might have a repeat on our hands. I’m hoping I’m wrong on that count though.

All in all WRA001 is as expected. A roughly assembled and even rougher looking GT clone. Hopefully this time around its NRE software package performs better than the locomotive looks. Experience tells me that could be doubtful too though unfortunately.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I know it doesn't affect the function, but would it have killed them to chamfer the corners?

It's that sort of lack of detail we expect from the Chinese cost cutters..
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

I know it doesn't affect the function, but would it have killed them to chamfer the corners?

It's that sort of lack of detail we expect from the Chinese cost cutters..
lkernan
I thought Watco was making these in the USA. Most of the welders in the USA are either trained in the armed forces or in gaol and are not real good. If you possess really good welding skills you can virtually ask for any salary.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I know it doesn't affect the function, but would it have killed them to chamfer the corners?

It's that sort of lack of detail we expect from the Chinese cost cutters..
I thought Watco was making these in the USA. Most of the welders in the USA are either trained in the armed forces or in gaol and are not real good. If you possess really good welding skills you can virtually ask for any salary.
nswtrains
They are a product of the USA, hence why i'd have expected a higher standard than a Chinese product.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
I thought Watco was making these in the USA. Most of the welders in the USA are either trained in the armed forces or in gaol and are not real good. If you possess really good welding skills you can virtually ask for any salary.
nswtrains
Do hope your poor impression of welders in the USA who were trained in the armed forces, does not extend to welders trained in Australian armed forces.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Watco's wagon fleet has begun arriving at the Townsville Port - quite possibly the only time Watco's grain hoppers will be seen north of Mackay.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

I thought Watco was making these in the USA. Most of the welders in the USA are either trained in the armed forces or in gaol and are not real good. If you possess really good welding skills you can virtually ask for any salary.
Do hope your poor impression of welders in the USA who were trained in the armed forces, does not extend to welders trained in Australian armed forces.
petan
Nothing to do with welders trained in any way in Australia. Don't know why you raised the topic?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Pacific National is running rollingstock tests with Watco's new wagons between Partington (Townsville) and Storth today on the North Coast Line. 8331 is the locomotive I believe.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Pacific National is running rollingstock tests with Watco's new wagons between Partington (Townsville) and Storth today on the North Coast Line. 8331 is the locomotive I believe.
Sulla1

Thanks Sulla1 why would PN be doing this are they going to be the hook and pull operator?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Not one hundred percent sure, but I think it's probably just a short term back-scratching contract while the wagons are tested and stored around Townsville. I believe Watco will be moving the wagons southwards once its locomotive fleet and crews are up and running.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
PN (much like anyone) will do wonders for $$

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