Algester, Acacia Ridge, Parkinson, Logan residents fight Inland Rail

 

News article: Algester, Acacia Ridge, Parkinson, Logan residents fight Inland Rail

THE GROUNDSWELL of community concern over the Inland Rail alignment is growing — and here’s the proof.

  X Class Locomotive Driver

They are worried about the extra trains  which will be traversing the railway line?  The line is there to be used isn't it, so let's see it being used is what I say.  There are so many under utilised and disused freight lines on my side of the country (WA) it frustrates and saddens me every time I see one.

Besides, would the same people complain about the extra trucks they would encounter on their local roads if this project were no to proceed?  
Embrace it folks.

Algester, Acacia Ridge, Parkinson, Logan residents fight Inland Rail

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Make it an electric line and the noise pollution will be far lower.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Perhaps a dozen trains a day, all in boxes. Or 500 B-doubles?

Option A please.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

Back in the 1980s and 1990s the NSW NCL was at saturation point. There were a lot more trains then than there will ever be under the inland rail. Most of these properties are acreage blocks, rail "at the back fence" is not rail at the house.
Neill Farmer
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Back in the 1980s and 1990s the NSW NCL was at saturation point. There were a lot more trains then than there will ever be under the inland rail. Most of these properties are acreage blocks, rail "at the back fence" is not rail at the house.
Neill Farmer
neillfarmer
Back in the 1980s and 1990s few people lived in these areas! Smile
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Make it an electric line and the noise pollution will be far lower.
justapassenger

There are no operational SG electric loco's any more.
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

Make it an electric line and the noise pollution will be far lower.
justapassenger
Thats actually a plan, but not for freight.  The long term plan is build a dual track NG electrified railway line to beaudesert ustising some sections of the current corridor.  
SG track to remain free of wires, presumably for ease of future double stack
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Make it an electric line and the noise pollution will be far lower.
Thats actually a plan, but not for freight.  The long term plan is build a dual track NG electrified railway line to beaudesert ustising some sections of the current corridor.  
SG track to remain free of wires, presumably for ease of future double stack
tazzer96
The whole project will have clearance for double stack container trains.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

Back in the 1980s and 1990s the NSW NCL was at saturation point. There were a lot more trains then than there will ever be under the inland rail. Most of these properties are acreage blocks, rail "at the back fence" is not rail at the house.
Neill Farmer
Back in the 1980s and 1990s few people lived in these areas! Smile
Graham4405
True Graham. But if you asked any of these people how many trains run on the line now they would not know. The thousands of householders that live beside commuter railways and main roads would get much more noise than these NIMBYs will ever get.
  cuthbert Train Controller

Perhaps a dozen trains a day, all in boxes. Or 500 B-doubles?

Option A please.
michaelgm

And 24/7 coal trains in the gaps, like on the Central QLD coal systems.
  cuthbert Train Controller

Most of these properties are acreage blocks, rail "at the back fence" is not rail at the house.
neillfarmer
Sure are acreage hey? Look at this, from Algester to Boronia Heights which is on the right side of the track.

You will have to click on "View larger map" and zoom out a bit to see all the small homes that share a boundary with the rail line.

  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Most of these properties are acreage blocks, rail "at the back fence" is not rail at the house.
Sure are acreage hey? Look at this, from Algester to Boronia Heights which is on the right side of the track.

You will have to click on "View larger map" and zoom out a bit to see all the small homes that share a boundary with the rail line.
cuthbert
The railway line was there long before most houses. Rail has its role in "progress".
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

The small houses in the Algester area were present when the line was previously saturated with short interstate freighters. Nobody complained then. This section of the NCL is destined to also become the QR suburban line south towards Beaudesert. That is the reason why it has been rebuilt in dual gauge when the track was relaid and loops moved and expanded to increase train lengths. The increased train lengths more than halved the number of freight trains. There will be many more commuter trains than freight or coal trains when the line is eventually used for this purpose. (I know there is a problem with the DS under overhead, and that this will need a resolution such as a second track?). In any case the construction of the IRL will enable the coal trains to be lengthened and new rolling stock will carry more in each wagon thus reducing the number of coal trains.
I repeat that in the past more trains used this line than are envisaged under the IRL. In the future there will be more suburban trains that coal or freight.
  cuthbert Train Controller

In the future there will be more suburban trains that coal or freight.
neillfarmer

You have no idea. There was no coal in the past, except for heritage tours after 1970.

Have you seen the Goonyella, Blackwater, Bowen and Newlands sytems? HAVE YOU? They can't cope with current and future expanding demand for export coal.

The Surat Basin is limited by POB - the coal trains will be thick - 24/7 with limited gaps for general freight Towwoomba to POB. It will be great for photo ops!

As for the passenger services promised to the future 120,000 small homes now being built south of Brisbane (Greater Flagstone), the current rail corridor has been stolen for freight only and a new corridor is to be acquired (lots of resumption) beside the existing to build the passenger lines.

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