Scott Morrison's imploding act

 

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  Carnot Chief Commissioner

This is sure to send the anti-Semites apopletic:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/australia-could-move-embassy-to-jerusalem/10379602

And because of this stupid idea which serves no other purpose than to appease the USA Indonesia have now threatened Australia with a trade embargo.
x31
Everyone seems to be embargoing everyone at present.  So much for Free Trade Agreements....

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  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The above is only a move to win the seat of Wentworth, and nothing more, it's desperate politics!

Kind Regards
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The above is only a move to win the seat of Wentworth, and nothing more, it's desperate politics!

Kind Regards
lsrailfan
I thought the same when I read it this morning too - Wentworth is 12.5% Jewish religion identified.

Are they in any serious trouble in Wentworth? Is there any possibility that they'll lose?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The above is only a move to win the seat of Wentworth, and nothing more, it's desperate politics!

Kind Regards
I thought the same when I read it this morning too - Wentworth is 12.5% Jewish religion identified.

Are they in any serious trouble in Wentworth? Is there any possibility that they'll lose?
don_dunstan
As far as I'm aware, it's a 2 contestant race between DR Kerryn Phelps, (Independent) and Dave Sharma (Liberal), most are tipping it will go down to the wire, but the way this muppet government has been performing, there's every chance that the Libs could get whacked with a baseball bat at the ballot box  * the Coalition hold the seat by a fair margin, but I have been hearing about potential voter backlash bigtime!!

Kind Regards
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
As far as I'm aware, it's a 2 contestant race between DR Kerryn Phelps, (Independent) and Dave Sharma (Liberal), most are tipping it will go down to the wire, but the way this muppet government has been performing, there's every chance that the Libs could get whacked with a baseball bat at the ballot box

Kind Regards
lsrailfan
Truly dreadful, didn't last a month before he had to back-flip on religious schools not admitting gay students and teachers. Johnny Howard was a master of sniffing the breeze to see which way the public was going beforehand - Morrison probably thought the gay marriage thing was over but got blind-sided by this particular one almost a year after the vote. He's no Johnny Howard.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
As far as I'm aware, it's a 2 contestant race between DR Kerryn Phelps, (Independent) and Dave Sharma (Liberal), most are tipping it will go down to the wire, but the way this muppet government has been performing, there's every chance that the Libs could get whacked with a baseball bat at the ballot box

Kind Regards
Truly dreadful, didn't last a month before he had to back-flip on religious schools not admitting gay students and teachers. Johnny Howard was a master of sniffing the breeze to see which way the public was going beforehand - Morrison probably thought the gay marriage thing was over but got blind-sided by this particular one almost a year after the vote. He's no Johnny Howard.
don_dunstan
Did you hear about the Government stuffing up the Pauline Hanson vote in the senate? I mean really, what a bunch of lemmings they are! they go into a vote without reading the fine print, and of course, Pauline was in fact saying that there should be no racism at all in this country, black/white it doesn't matter, makes you wonder why we vote for these clowns!!!

Kind Regards
  jibbonpoint Chief Commissioner

Location: Shoalhaven
This is sure to send the anti-Semites apopletic:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/australia-could-move-embassy-to-jerusalem/10379602

And because of this stupid idea which serves no other purpose than to appease the USA Indonesia have now threatened Australia with a trade embargo.
x31
I think that it's more a belief that it will appease a large proportion of the voters in Wentworth. If I was one of the number of that Large Proportion, I would be rope-able that I was being used in a cynical ploy to get my vote that jeopardised an agreement that potentially has great benefits for the whole of the Country.

I was so hopeful that common sense & a realisation that we would get from the latest disgraceful Turnbull coup would now prevail. And ScoMo would be able to lead from it.

Not to be.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Trying to appease the Jewish community might all be in vain: The Australian is reporting this morning that Liberal private polling reveals that they're going to lose Wentworth to independent Dr Kerryn Phelps:

Independent candidate Kerryn Phelps is set for victory over the Morrison government in the Wentworth by-election this Saturday, as Liberal Party polling shows the former Australian Medical Association president ahead of Liberal candidate Dave Sharma 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis. Defeat in Wentworth would mean the Morrison government lost its one-seat majority and have to rely on the support of independents to govern.

Given that Bob Katter has already said he will not support Morrison's government on a number of key issues I'd say that we will all be headed for the polls if the Liberal Party loses the seat of Wentworth.

And probably another Prime Minister.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Trying to appease the Jewish community might all be in vain: The Australian is reporting this morning that Liberal private polling reveals that they're going to lose Wentworth to independent Dr Kerryn Phelps:

Independent candidate Kerryn Phelps is set for victory over the Morrison government in the Wentworth by-election this Saturday, as Liberal Party polling shows the former Australian Medical Association president ahead of Liberal candidate Dave Sharma 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis. Defeat in Wentworth would mean the Morrison government lost its one-seat majority and have to rely on the support of independents to govern.

Given that Bob Katter has already said he will not support Morrison's government on a number of key issues I'd say that we will all be headed for the polls if the Liberal Party loses the seat of Wentworth.

And probably another Prime Minister.
don_dunstan
Bob Katter will have more leverage.  I doubt the Libs will rush to an election given how poorly they're going in the polls.  They'll string it out until Autumn.
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Trying to appease the Jewish community might all be in vain: The Australian is reporting this morning that Liberal private polling reveals that they're going to lose Wentworth to independent Dr Kerryn Phelps:

Independent candidate Kerryn Phelps is set for victory over the Morrison government in the Wentworth by-election this Saturday, as Liberal Party polling shows the former Australian Medical Association president ahead of Liberal candidate Dave Sharma 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis. Defeat in Wentworth would mean the Morrison government lost its one-seat majority and have to rely on the support of independents to govern.

Given that Bob Katter has already said he will not support Morrison's government on a number of key issues I'd say that we will all be headed for the polls if the Liberal Party loses the seat of Wentworth.

And probably another Prime Minister.
Bob Katter will have more leverage.  I doubt the Libs will rush to an election given how poorly they're going in the polls.  They'll string it out until Autumn.
Carnot
Are they going to be able to get any bills through the lower house at all? Seems unlikely given how many cross-benchers they'll have to deal with.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Phelps has stated that should she be successful, she will support the government in relation to supply, not policy.
A minority dead duck, government, plus Katter = chaos.
Perhaps Julia might be considered as a consultant, how to run a minority government?
Laughing
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Phelps has stated that should she be successful, she will support the government in relation to supply, not policy.
A minority dead duck, government, plus Katter = chaos.
Perhaps Julia might be considered as a consultant, how to run a minority government?
Laughing
michaelgm
The one thing she managed to do properly.

Seriously though, Morrison is already proving how incompetent he is; a blatant appeal to the Jewish community of Wentworth not to kick them in the nuts will probably go unheeded. A few weeks ago we had the virtue signalling from him about cancelling Australia Day or setting up another Indigenous Reconciliation Panel - it's all about appearing to be doing something while actually doing nothing at all.

Another short-lived PM, he won't be in the job in another twelve months mark my words.
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

I do not think the idea of moving the Australian Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a good one. The Middle East Peace Agreement is nowhere near, an amicable, or even grudgingly acceptable one at this point , that being so I fail to see why Australia should upset anyone for no real benefit. After all, a 70 km / 54 minutes distance / time difference is minor considering that one is potentially leaving an area with a lot of Embassies to an area with one . ( And a really good reason not to move is going from the beach to the hinterland ! )

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country )

Following the US on this issue is not a matter of "developing a backbone" but a matter of doing what is best in our broader national interest , and our broader national interest does not always coincide with what is the US' broader national interest.

From a Trade and foreign relations perspective , maintaining and developing trade and ties with Muslim nations ( estimated 1.8 billion population,  24 % global population , majority in 49 countries , Indonesia is world's largest Muslim nation by population. Additionally , India and Malaysia are the second and third largest Muslim countries in our region , and the Asia Pacific area has the largest concentration of Muslims globally, outnumbering the Middle East and Africa combined ) may not be overly important for the US , but it has a greater significance for Australia , and I fail to see why Australia should place US interests above our own.

This does not mean that we should not give support to US foreign policy agendas , especially when it is our own interest , but it does mean that we should recognise that some US policy agendas are not compatible with Australia's , and moving our Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is one of them.

Regards, Radioman.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Assumes all those who tick that religion actually want Jerusalem as the capital under the present circumstances.

As for that senate vote, I have no doubt it was fine for one Liberal Party senator of the Master Race.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Moving our embassy is in my view, an unnecessary irritation. There was a tax agent speaking, when Hoges was having issues with the ATO. His advice,
When you're locked in a phone box with a gorilla, don't poke it in the eye.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I do not think the idea of moving the Australian Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a good one.
Radioman
As Groundrelay observes, not all Jewish people are necessarily in favour of it - in fact some anti-Zionists will be dead against it. It was just a blatant suck-up to the conservatives in the Jewish community, that's all.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

All things considered, ScoMo should probably focus on fixing the big issues rather than meddling with stuff that will likely backfire on him.

It's hard to believe we had just 2 Prime Ministers between 1990 and 2007.  What we up to now?  5 since Rudd got in, and almost certainly a 6th by mid-2019...
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
All things considered, ScoMo should probably focus on fixing the big issues rather than meddling with stuff that will likely backfire on him.

It's hard to believe we had just 2 Prime Ministers between 1990 and 2007.  What we up to now?  5 since Rudd got in, and almost certainly a 6th by mid-2019...
Carnot
Just two Prime Ministers 'till Xmas.

Incidentally has anyone else been watching TV today - Harry and Meghan are getting live coverage of their tour of Dubbo on Nine and I must admit they look like they're really charming the whole district. Harry especially makes a lot of effort to meet and talk to people and gave a really good speech on rural suicide.

No republic for decades I'm guessing!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
All things considered, ScoMo should probably focus on fixing the big issues rather than meddling with stuff that will likely backfire on him.

It's hard to believe we had just 2 Prime Ministers between 1990 and 2007.  What we up to now?  5 since Rudd got in, and almost certainly a 6th by mid-2019...
Just two Prime Ministers 'till Xmas.

Incidentally has anyone else been watching TV today - Harry and Meghan are getting live coverage of their tour of Dubbo on Nine and I must admit they look like they're really charming the whole district. Harry especially makes a lot of effort to meet and talk to people and gave a really good speech on rural suicide.

No republic for decades I'm guessing!
don_dunstan
That won't stop Peter Fitzsimons, and Malcom Turnbot however.

Kind Regards
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Just on Australia becoming a republic, I just stumbled across this interesting article - https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-position-on-a-republic-untenable-queen-believes/ar-BBOtNhC?ocid=spartanntp

Kind Regards
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Just on Australia becoming a republic, I just stumbled across this interesting article - https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-position-on-a-republic-untenable-queen-believes/ar-BBOtNhC?ocid=spartanntp

Kind Regards
lsrailfan
Charles probably won't be nearly as bad as people are expecting - Charles is also 69 remember so he won't be able to reign for nearly as long as Liz has. He used to have some really eccentric ideas but he's an architecture fanatic so that gets him some points from me. And I think everyone has forgiven him now for ruining Diana's life - it wasn't his fault that he wasn't allowed to marry his divorced lady back then. Things have really changed with the modern royal family, all those old protocols about marriage have truly gone out the window with the new generation.

I kind of agree with what QEII is saying in there in that she's wanting the monarchy to transcend the personalities and/or personality politics - as Queen she's been incredibly careful about avoiding politics and seldom ever talks in public about it. The two exceptions I can think of is that (reportedly) she hated Margaret Thatcher's guts (but then again who didn't) and a rumour I read not long ago that she was well aware of the constitutional crisis going on between Kerr and Whitlam in November 1975 and was prepared to give counsel until the situation went critical and Kerr actually sacked him.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
All things considered, ScoMo should probably focus on fixing the big issues rather than meddling with stuff that will likely backfire on him.

It's hard to believe we had just 2 Prime Ministers between 1990 and 2007.  What we up to now?  5 since Rudd got in, and almost certainly a 6th by mid-2019...
Just two Prime Ministers 'till Xmas.

Incidentally has anyone else been watching TV today - Harry and Meghan are getting live coverage of their tour of Dubbo on Nine and I must admit they look like they're really charming the whole district. Harry especially makes a lot of effort to meet and talk to people and gave a really good speech on rural suicide.

No republic for decades I'm guessing!
don_dunstan
We had four PM's in the 31 years between 1976 and 2007. there was nearly half a generation that grew up with Howard. His name at least was well known internationally because he was there so long.

In the 11 years since we have had 5 x PM's. Now if foreign leader wants to call the Australian PM they need to check with their Assistant who is in the chair and the Assistant probably needs to do a quick Google search just prior.

Yep, with Harry and William, their two spouses who are in the target age group bringing up their rear with a gaggle of kids following now all being groomed for the front faces of the Royal family regardless who is actually on the throne, Republic movement will be certainly dead in the water for many years to come.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Now persons unknown are spreading nasty emails https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-17/wentworth-by-election-fake-email-claims-kerryn-phelps-has-hiv/10382406
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Now persons unknown are spreading nasty emails https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-17/wentworth-by-election-fake-email-claims-kerryn-phelps-has-hiv/10382406
petan
None of the major parties would have been so gutless to do such a thing, It would have been some braindead bigot, check out the message - "
"Can you divert your vote to Dave Sharma in instead? It is very urgent, please let your friends know, too," the email said.
"Use all your phone, messenger and social media and show support for Dave Sharma on your Facebook too.
"The voting card has been printed already, you will still see her name, but she has already quit.
"Please DO NOT vote for her, just choose Sharma as your top choice only. Kerryn was diagnosed with HIV yesterday so no chance she will be running for the election.
"Choose Dave Sharma. Otherwise if you choose local white, they will be molesting your children someday." - such poor grammar!

Kind Regards

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