The tunnels will go under a lot of low-density stuff, yep, but the stations - even now and taking into account their existing development pipelines - aren't the same as a typical suburban area...
I think a lot of people here don't really understand what the transport task actually is, failing to research even the most basic of employment statistics (which are readily available online). The vast majority of people work locally, long distance trips are the exception, not the rule - such employment distributions naturally favour service by buses.
Even in suburban locations with relatively large employment concentrations, workplaces are still dispersed over a wide area, such as with industrial areas in Dandenong and Monash. Suburban centres contain only a fraction of the jobs within the city, as suburban workplaces are highly dispersed, not localised as they are within the Melbourne CBD.
Stations won’t be announced until the business case is completed and released.
At the moment the ALP and Development Victoria have drawn a line through Melbourne based on Plan Melbourne Documents (activity centres) and which seats needed a boost at the last election.
There will never be a business case for such lunacy.
This proposal hasn't come about due to some visionary wisdom - it is indeed merely an attempt at shoring up votes amongst the clueless masses in swinging electorates, to be quietly forgotten next time the government changes hands.
This is very, very close to exactly how planning should be done. We just want more transparency about the process.
You're saying planning should be based upon capturing swinging voters? Great.
Connecting Frankston and Dandenong could be long term proposal for a seemless connection btw those hubs. But I would say that would probably happen after the Dandenong corridor gets a proper quadruplication and the Frankston line has triplication to Mordialloc. You think those won't happen soon, that's correct. The Frankston Dandenong connection is still a pipe dream as of now. Talk about it when I'm 50 (30 years from now).
Sometimes I wonder if some posters live on the same planet, let alone city.
A sweeping subterranean arc through low density suburbia is justified but a trunk route to a major region of the city isn't?
This project is nothing more then a vanity project to out do Sydney and claim the title of Australia's biggest project. It has no validation at all and the cost is monumental. It is likely to take at least 50 years and take more money then the Victorian portion of the proposed vhst rail line to Sydney.
Where is the money coming from as well? Victoria doesn't have the monetary resources that NSW has and our first biggest ever project has finished construction and we are on to our next one in the cbd metro. Soon to be followed by the western metro, the new north south rail link in western sydney, a possible inner west metro, the northern beaches metro is likely to be built before this project.
While an obvious troll, I'd still respect the opinion of an outsider far beyond that of the local foaming over shiny objects.