2019 Federal Election Thread

 
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

All this is irrelevant.  It doesn’t explain how John Howard went from ‘never ever!’ to implementing the GST.

The two-election possible scenario is an argument that can’t be lost. It isn’t unconstitutional and is an option available to the Government, much the same as going to an early election is (was). The LNP didn’t go to an early election because it knew it would lose but can now claim the moral high-ground by saying it wanted to go the full term.  If the LNP is still facing suicide by calling an election in May, it is an option that will be very much on the table. One reason it may not be taken up is, given the LNP’s minority status, it could trigger a successful no-confidence motion against the Government, but, once again, what will it have to lose. If it chooses not use the option, the LNP can deny it ever considered it, much the same as with the early election scenario.

Anyway for most of us it will happen if and when it happens. However for those on the periphery of politics it needs to be kept in mind. For example, if you’re a political journalist planning holidays, you wouldn’t consider November until after the election is called.
kitchgp
Explanation is simple.
First election, dismissed the whole proposal to distance themselves from the bad history.
First term, reviewed options both including and avoiding the GST knowing there was alot of bad blood on the GST, repackaged their proposal based on past learnings by both ALP and LNP PR disasters.
Went to the 2nd election with GST on table as part of policy. A vote for the LNP is a vote for GST, don't want, vote ALP.
Simple!

There are alot of things the govt can do that is legal, but they won't and don't because it would be a disaster electrol wise.  

I don't think too many people will buy the "we went full term, look how good we are" story. They went full term because they didn't have a choice.

Agree, we will see what happens when it happens.


I'll put this on the table now

Early budget
Election called shortly after for late May
LNP loose by 15 - 20 seats.

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  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Not looking for an explanation. It's just an example of how a 180-degree turn is no problem for a politician. What they say today ..........
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

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I'll put this on the table now

Early budget
Election called shortly after for late May
LNP loose by 15 - 20 seats.
RTT_Rules


Then, and only then, will you be sure there won’t be a November election.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Not looking for an explanation. It's just an example of how a 180-degree turn is no problem for a politician. What they say today ..........
kitchgp
No, not an example at all.

So where is the REAL problem?

A politician who takes a policy to the voters and then implements what they say. Or the voters who have some hang-up because it conflicts with a previous policy of the past even though they had full say in its approval or not?

Based on your conclusion it is impossible for political leaders to ever review or change there minds even when they give the ultimate decision to the people. This potentially boxes them in on decision making and implementing the best policy when circumstances change. This is utterly impractical for both private and govt sector and in the case of the GST completely pointless having been rubber stamped by the ALP a few years later.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I don't mind anyone changing his mind. However, let's take Howard's "never, ever a GST". It is a very definite statement. There's no room for misinterpretation.  He went to an election, and enough people believed it.
Change his mind?  OK, but take the change of mind to the next election and let the voters pass judgement on something that important.
Politicians have a reputation of being two-faced and they have largely earned it.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
As I stated before, you supported and I state again one more time for you. The "relevant comparison" between Aust and Can economies is that they are relatively similar, ie agricultural, mining, tourism etc but ARE disconnected enough as we don't trade with each other and hence the economies