Southern Cross to Spencer Street

 
  goldenstone Beginner

On Monday there was an April fool's joke about Southern Cross being changed to Spencer Street. Surprisingly there were people who wanted this to happen and were shocked to find out that this was a prank.

I want to know what are your thoughts on this. Should this be changed back to Spencer Street or not change it?

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  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Should this be changed back to Spencer Street or not change it?
"goldenstone"
Definitely yes. It should never have been changed in the first place. What the change produce? . . . reprints to timetables, business cards, stationery, nameboards, maps etc, and changes to train illuminated destination signage. What good did the change do? . . . None.
"Spencer Street Station" , in three words, told people where it was and what it was, until some bureaucrat with obviously not enough productive work to do, dreamed up this crackpot change. The name went from unique to shared in one go.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Should this be changed back to Spencer Street or not change it?
Definitely yes. It should never have been changed in the first place. What the change produce? . . . reprints to timetables, business cards, stationery, nameboards, maps etc, and changes to train illuminated destination signage. What good did the change do? . . . None.
"Spencer Street Station" , in three words, told people where it was and what it was, until some bureaucrat with obviously not enough productive work to do, dreamed up this crackpot change. The name went from unique to shared in one go.
Valvegear

Leave it as it is. I quite like Southern Cross. However also be mindful that North Melbourne station will soon become West Melbourne, as it should be.

Mike.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The change of name from north Melbourne to west Melbourne will catch a few people out mistake?
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Should this be changed back to Spencer Street or not change it?
Definitely yes. It should never have been changed in the first place. What the change produce? . . . reprints to timetables, business cards, stationery, nameboards, maps etc, and changes to train illuminated destination signage. What good did the change do? . . . None.
"Spencer Street Station" , in three words, told people where it was and what it was, until some bureaucrat with obviously not enough productive work to do, dreamed up this crackpot change. The name went from unique to shared in one go.
Valvegear
Would the owner of the building have had a say in its name, and have naming rights?

Or perhaps it should be renamed "Batmans Hill Station", and thus confuse the patrons even more.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Don't think we're allowed to use Batman anymore, he was the local Peter Dutton of the time.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I quite like Southern Cross.
"The Vinelander"
Which one; Victoria, Western Australia or Queensland?
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I quite like Southern Cross.
Which one; Victoria, Western Australia or Queensland?
Valvegear
It's a brand of windmill............Razz...... in all of the above.

I still call Kadinia Park....Kadinia Park.....Telstra Dome...Rolling Eyes.... can you teach an old dog new tricks.

BigShunter.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Should this be changed back to Spencer Street or not change it?
Definitely yes. It should never have been changed in the first place. What the change produce? . . . reprints to timetables, business cards, stationery, nameboards, maps etc, and changes to train illuminated destination signage. What good did the change do? . . . None.
"Spencer Street Station" , in three words, told people where it was and what it was, until some bureaucrat with obviously not enough productive work to do, dreamed up this crackpot change. The name went from unique to shared in one go.
Valvegear
I agree with Valvegear.  One function of a station's name should be to give an indication of where that station is located, even if in some cases it is slightly inaccurate.  But there is no such inaccuracy in the case of "Spencer Street", and although both the suburban and regional networks are expanding, I don't believe that a line has yet been constructed to the Southern Cross.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
If it was to change back, would SCS then become SSS ?............. reminds me of BG's last vehicle... a Datsun 180B SSS Coupe.....Razz

BigShunter.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I quite like Southern Cross.
Which one; Victoria, Western Australia or Queensland?
It's a brand of windmill............Razz...... in all of the above.

I still call Kadinia Park....Kadinia Park.....Telstra Dome...Rolling Eyes.... can you teach an old dog new tricks.

BigShunter.
BigShunter

Oops...sorry to say, it's actually Kardinia Park... Smile

This reminds me of a time I called my ex who lives in Croydon (Vic), from Croydon station. I'd just arrived there off the Gulflander...over 3,000 Km away Exclamation

Southern Cross is a more of destination not a locality...however in time it will probably become both.

Yes Southern Cross windmills are/were made in Toowoomba.

Mike.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
How about a sponsorship deal with the station?
Call it Marvel Station
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
How about a sponsorship deal with the station?
Call it Marvel Station
Dangersdan707

Sponsorship deals change every few years....that would confuse everyone

How many incarnations has Docklands stadium had since it was known as Docklands stadium Question

Mike.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
How about a sponsorship deal with the station?
Call it Marvel Station

Sponsorship deals change every few years....that would confuse everyone

How many incarnations has Docklands stadium had since it was known as Docklands stadium Question

Mike.
The Vinelander
That was not meant to be taken seriously. They should just call it Spencers street Station. nothing more, nothing less
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
If it was to change back, would SCS then become SSS ?............. reminds me of BG's last vehicle... a Datsun 180B SSS Coupe.....Razz

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Datsun 120Y is/was the apple of my eye Laughing

Actually that is BS, if I could drive it would be an E38 Charger for me! I'm a sucker for Vitamin C but I think for pure nostalgic value I might go for mustard.

BG
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
If it was to change back, would SCS then become SSS ?............. reminds me of BG's last vehicle... a Datsun 180B SSS Coupe.....Razz

BigShunter.
Datsun 120Y is/was the apple of my eye Laughing

Actually that is BS, if I could drive it would be an E38 Charger for me! I'm a sucker for Vitamin C but I think for pure nostalgic value I might go for mustard.

BG
BrentonGolding
Rightly or wrongly I think now the name "Southern Cross " has become well known and is a destination in it`s own right.
To change the name again would be throwing good money after bad .
Changing North Melbourne to West Melbourne is a different situation as geographically that is correct and there will be a new North Melbourne station IN North Melbourne
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
If it was to change back, would SCS then become SSS ?............. reminds me of BG's last vehicle... a Datsun 180B SSS Coupe.....Razz

BigShunter.
Datsun 120Y is/was the apple of my eye Laughing

Actually that is BS, if I could drive it would be an E38 Charger for me! I'm a sucker for Vitamin C but I think for pure nostalgic value I might go for mustard.

BG
BrentonGolding

My first car in 1973 was a 180B SSS..

Speaking of Chryslers...I like my classic Chrysler as well. My 1970 Valiant Pacer hardtop. They only came out for one year before yielding to the mighty Charger... Smile

A sneak peak:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1970_Valiant_VG_Pacer_Thar_She_Blue%3D%3D.JPG

It's ironic being a PT advocate whilst cruising on Sunny Sundays in my Aussie/US hybrid muscle car..Cool

Mike.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

At the NEXT major timetable change the existing North Melbourne station should be renamed as WEST MELBOURNE then people will get used to that well before Metro 1 and "real"  NORTH MELBOURNE opens in Arden St in 2024/25 .

Leave the re-naming to Metro 1 opening in 2024/2025 and everyone will be confused .
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If it was to change back, would SCS then become SSS ?............. reminds me of BG's last vehicle... a Datsun 180B SSS Coupe.....Razz

BigShunter.
BigShunter

No doubt a collectible now.
  Crispin Station Staff

How about getting Yarra Trams to realise that Etihad Stadium is now Marvel Stadium? Destination signs, timetables etc havent been updated yet and its been months
  stooge spark Train Controller

People complaining in this thread about Southern Cross being a waste of money to change its name, but then want to change it back to Spencer street? What purpose is changing the name? Should we change Flagstaff to William street? Richmond to Punt road?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

People complaining in this thread about Southern Cross being a waste of money to change its name, but then want to change it back to Spencer street? What purpose is changing the name? Should we change Flagstaff to William street? Richmond to Punt road?
stooge spark
Flagstaff Gardens is a location; so is Richmond. That's the fundamental difference between Southern Cross and every other station name in the state. Is it worth changing back? Probably not now, since the name has some recognition among locals at least, and non-geographic names are common globally for major termini, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly a good name.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
If it was to change back, would SCS then become SSS ?............. reminds me of BG's last vehicle... a Datsun 180B SSS Coupe.....Razz

BigShunter.
Datsun 120Y is/was the apple of my eye Laughing

Actually that is BS, if I could drive it would be an E38 Charger for me! I'm a sucker for Vitamin C but I think for pure nostalgic value I might go for mustard.

BG

My first car in 1973 was a 180B SSS..

Speaking of Chryslers...I like my classic Chrysler as well. My 1970 Valiant Pacer hardtop. They only came out for one year before yielding to the mighty Charger... Smile

A sneak peak:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1970_Valiant_VG_Pacer_Thar_She_Blue%3D%3D.JPG

It's ironic being a PT advocate whilst cruising on Sunny Sundays in my Aussie/US hybrid muscle car..Cool

Mike.
The Vinelander
Right off topic but good info on who we are and what's made us who we are and ending  up on RP.

BG seriously a 120Y, in 1977 I was in grade 5 and our new librarian, straight out of teachers college, had a 120Y, not exactly the vehicle to drive down to the boozer for Friday night's arm wrestling comp........Razz

I'll go an VH E37 BG any color will do.  

Mike, you old Fox, you've only mentioned driving your 1969 Mini, around the district and you've got the Big Grunter in garage..........Shocked

A Pacer sedan, would do nicely or even a E31 for good measure.

Ok back to normal programming.

BigShunter.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Right off topic but good info on who we are and what's made us who we are and ending  up on RP.

BG seriously a 120Y, in 1977 I was in grade 5 and our new librarian, straight out of teachers college, had a 120Y, not exactly the vehicle to drive down to the boozer for Friday night's arm wrestling comp........Razz

BigShunter.
BigShunter
So you didn't get the reference because you were too young? I have never owned a 120Y, I was referring to the old advertising jingle from my childhood but sadly I cannot find it online. It included the line 'Datsun 120 Y is the apple of your eye, Datsun 120 Whyeeeyeeye' or similar.

And yes, Mike you old fox you, a Pacer! Love it. Hope it wasn't the Lime Green one with Matt Black stripes that I was admiring out the front a while back - not an original colour, may have been a Plymouth RoadRunner colour actually, but looked well cool!

BG
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Actually had an bright orange C L Charger in the younger days, several diffs, a couple of gearboxes and the second motor was the  E 37 sixpack. Getting someone to tune the triple webbers was an issue in the boondocks,but it used to go like stink.And the noise at about 7000 revs. Twenty years later a bog standard Falcon or Dunnydore probably would have blown it away, but at the time it was a lot of fun.

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