Location: Albury, New South Wales
Did UP choose the 4024 for any particular reason as other units were available in other
Museums.
Big Boy No. 4014
Museums.
Big Boy No. 4014
Big Boy No. 4014
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
michaelgm
Chief Commissioner
UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
x31
Chief Commissioner
Location: gallifrey
UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same. 4018 may also be
4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
Groover
Train Controller
Location: A long way from home
When it was moved they cut the piston rods. There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete. The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same. 4018 may also be
4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
x31
Chief Commissioner
Location: gallifrey
Potentially 4018 could also be restored if the desire was there?
woodford
Chief Commissioner
Although 4014 was housed outside in Pomona it only rains for around less than 20 days per year (average max rainfall 17 inches) and the Rail Giants Museum regularly serviced the loco which is why UP picked it.When it was moved they cut the piston rods. There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete. The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same. 4018 may also be
4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
There would be little difficulty in making new piston rods even if they were one piece with the pistons, there are still plenty of forging firms in both Britain and Europe that can do such work. The problem is likely to be the boilers. For these to be in good condition they would need to have been shut down properly THEN looked after. Shutting down properly means draining the boiler COMPLETELY while it is still hot, then removing some plugs to allow air to flow freely through the boiler to keep it dry.
woodford
woodford
Chief Commissioner
Its worthwhile to remember here that UP checked out all remaining BigBoys before picking 4014 so the others must be in poorer condition.
woodford
woodford
TheFish
Chief Train Controller
Location: Pyongyang
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet? I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
TheFish
Chief Train Controller
Location: Pyongyang
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet? I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
Groover
Train Controller
Location: A long way from home
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet? I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...UP have put a brief video on Facebook dated 13 April showing it in steam.
Link is: https://www.facebook.com/unionpacific/videos/10156536696063506/
No videos that I know of outside of FB showing it in steam.
georges
Train Controller
Or, if you're not an FB member, - https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet? I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...UP have put a brief video on Facebook dated 13 April showing it in steam.
Link is: https://www.facebook.com/unionpacific/videos/10156536696063506/
No videos that I know of outside of FB showing it in steam.
Valvegear
Dr Beeching
Location: Norda Fittazroy
That is an impressive machine!
Thank heaven for mechanical stokers - who'd want to try hand-firing a box that size?
Thank heaven for mechanical stokers - who'd want to try hand-firing a box that size?
TheFish
Chief Train Controller
Location: Pyongyang
Can't seem to see either of those and I have a facebook account.Or, if you're not an FB member, - https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet? I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...UP have put a brief video on Facebook dated 13 April showing it in steam.
Link is: https://www.facebook.com/unionpacific/videos/10156536696063506/
No videos that I know of outside of FB showing it in steam.
Spinner5711
Train Controller
4018's piston rods were cut in the early 1960's, not as part of its 2013 move.When it was moved they cut the piston rods. There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete. The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same. 4018 may also be
4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
The pity in some ways was that UP stored 4023 at Cheyanne, with 3985, for many years with perhaps a long term view towards overhaul in some far distant (from 1962's perspective) time. It ended up in 'that' park, almost irrecoverable.
Dangersdan707
Chief Commissioner
Location: On a Thing with Internet
That is an impressive machine!it now runs on the black goo America invades for
Thank heaven for mechanical stokers - who'd want to try hand-firing a box that size?
georges
Train Controller
When I made that link the FB page was accessible to all and contained a video of 4014 in regular steam service, including some shots of its driving controls. The page has changed since then, becoming accessible only to FB members and, so far as I can tell, omitting the video.Or, if you're not an FB member, - https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/Can't seem to see either of those and I have a facebook account.
Here is an alternative, a teaser for a commercial DVD on all members of the 4000 class in operation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8f9VFlNyDQ&feature=youtu.be
georges
Train Controller
When too much is never enough!
4003 and 4013 in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akvLweWOd0g
Brief look at a working 4014
https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/
Static 4023. Some detailed shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc9ldZoONe0
4003 and 4013 in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akvLweWOd0g
Brief look at a working 4014
https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/
Static 4023. Some detailed shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc9ldZoONe0
Groover
Train Controller
Location: A long way from home
Correct, they were cut on the move to the original museum. My apologies.4018's piston rods were cut in the early 1960's, not as part of its 2013 move.When it was moved they cut the piston rods. There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete. The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same. 4018 may also be
4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
The pity in some ways was that UP stored 4023 at Cheyanne, with 3985, for many years with perhaps a long term view towards overhaul in some far distant (from 1962's perspective) time. It ended up in 'that' park, almost irrecoverable.
georges
Train Controller
Hear that lonesome whistle blow!
https://youtu.be/dWpODg11xkI
Why are there two threads on this subject?
https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11399514.htm
https://youtu.be/dWpODg11xkI
Why are there two threads on this subject?
https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11399514.htm