Face Masks on Public Transport?

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 12 Aug 2020 16:09
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The WHO today has now said asymtomatic people can not transmit the virus so wearing masks is kind of irrelevant unless you have the symptoms and one would know they had the symptoms.

Face Masks on Public Transport?

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
WHO* = who?
* Yes I know it is the World Health Organisation but they = who anyway.

Face masks in Victoria:

  • No not necessary (spin for saying that we don't have any anyway)
  • Face masks compulsory
  • Covid cases rise dramatically - were they right in the beginning?


Just seemed common sense from the very beginning that face masks would at least be helpful.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

The thing broke out in China, but they mandated masks in early Feb.  The number of daily new cases has been kept on a one-or-two digit level for quite a few months, and that's speaking of a country with a population of 1.4 billion.  Most recent cases are imported ones found in the mandatory quarantine, or their close contacts.  A lot of public venues also mandate visitors to display a 2-dimensional code on their mobile phones for travel route tracking.  Some think it violates their privacy but perhaps it's not the best time to talk about freedom.
  kapow Junior Train Controller

The WHO today has now said asymtomatic people can not transmit the virus so wearing masks is kind of irrelevant unless you have the symptoms and one would know they had the symptoms.

Face Masks on Public Transport?
freightgate
Any chance you could provide a link for that?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I find the (alleged) WHO advice difficult to believe. Covid-19 is a virus; so are other diseases such as measles and rubella to name two. Both of those are contagious, and the first sign of infection is a rash.  In both of these, the disease is transmittable up to four days before the rash appears; in other words, when the infected person is asymptomatic. I cannot see why Covid would be different.
The other obvious point is that masks are not just there to stop people with the virus from transmitting it; they are there as a barrier to transmission to people who are not infected.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The WHO might be right on the asymptomatic non transmission - there certainly doesn’t seem to be much data showing asymptomatic transmission.

That which you describe Valvegear are presymptomatic people, a very different cohort.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Sounds the same as "children are not carriers". Look how well that turned out.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I am not convinced the WHO made that claim.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The WHO might be right on the asymptomatic non transmission - there certainly doesn’t seem to be much data showing asymptomatic transmission.

That which you describe Valvegear are presymptomatic people, a very different cohort.
Aaron
What the WHO has actually said (as opposed to what @freighgate says they have said) in the most recent update to their commentary on transmission modes is basically that:
1. they do believe transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by people with asymptomatic infections is possible
2. there is still no consensus on the definition of “asymptomatic” in the context of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19
3. follow up of people who have had cases described as asymptomatic is lacking

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions

I am not convinced the WHO made that claim.
Aaron
I think it was actually Boris Johnson, a man whose CV includes being fired from a professional position for lying, who said children aren't carriers.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Well, the one thing we are sure of is that there isn’t very much data from which to draw a conclusion.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

There is tons of data by now, but so much of it is of very low quality.

Not many health systems would have the capacity to book in recovered patients who were thought to be asymptomatic for a close look to see if they have any scarring in the lower lungs.

So long as it is impossible to tell the difference between asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic and mildly symptomatic (i.e. not bad enough for hospitalisation) the advice to use face masks in areas with community transmission won't be going away.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Nevertheless, masks must be worn on all public transport.

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