Australia Post reduce letter delivery to every 2nd day

 
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-australian-post-cuts-letter-delivery-to-every-second-day-due-to-covid19/cc444500-aff1-4b0a-bbdb-9a9811cc4d74

Australia Post has finally been able to reduce home letter deliveries to every 2nd day, I think they have been trying to implement this for a decade or more with the usual outrage to following. Now thanks to CV-19 it just happens without any fanfare.

Realistically they could easily drop to 2 / week unless you have a PO Box.

Sponsored advertisement

  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
I wouldnt care if it was 1 per week.  Less times i have to throw the junk mail out...
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I wouldnt care if it was 1 per week.  Less times i have to throw the junk mail out...
james.au
I get very little junk mail via Australia Post.  Used to get lots from a weekly delivery by the local junk mail lady, but an "Australia Post addressed mail only" sticker displayed 5 years ago seems to have done the job.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-australian-post-cuts-letter-delivery-to-every-second-day-due-to-covid19/cc444500-aff1-4b0a-bbdb-9a9811cc4d74

Australia Post has finally been able to reduce home letter deliveries to every 2nd day, I think they have been trying to implement this for a decade or more with the usual outrage to following. Now thanks to CV-19 it just happens without any fanfare.

Realistically they could easily drop to 2 / week unless you have a PO Box.
RTT_Rules
Has been the case for us in the sticks for years. Makes no difference whatsoever to most people

AusPost says it is redeploying posties to do parcel deliveries which are a big problem ATM with lots of delays.

We sent an Express Post package from Castlemaine to Dandenong a fortnight ago - took 5 business days to arrive.......
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I'm nearly up to 2 weeks for a parcel to get from Melb to Central Vic....
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I wouldnt care if it was 1 per week.  Less times i have to throw the junk mail out...
james.au
Australia Post could be completely abolished tomorrow and the junk mail would still be delivered, because that's done by private sector companies such as IVE.

Harmonising with the junk mail companies on twice per week might be a good move by Australia Post as old codgers shift into nursing homes and lose their grandfathered Telstra and AGL contracts that entitled them to free paper bills.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I'm nearly up to 2 weeks for a parcel to get from Melb to Central Vic....
Carnot
I assume you are tracking it Carnot?

I had a Fastway delivery from Melbourne a month or so back, never arrived.

Tracking showed it out for delivery a few days after it was shipped out then returned to Bendigo as undeliverable. Then sent out again a week later and shown on tracking as delivered at 8.40 PM on a Tuesday night!!! Which it wasn't, that was a lie, I was working in my office in the front room till after 11  and even if I hadn't heard the driver park out front or coming up the steps to the door the sensor light would have been a dead give away.

This sort of thing is becoming more and more common during Covid due to massive parcel loads leading to short cuts being taken by overworked drivers and contractors.
  WimbledonW Train Controller

Location: Sydney
Does "deliveries every 2nd day" mean
* 3 per week(day) M.W.F.
* 2 per week(day) .Tu.Th. ?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Not in our case! Two deliveries on one day last week. Smile
But then ...........................Rolling Eyes
Still taking ages regardless. Three masks posted on 28/8 still to transit between 'middle distance suburbs' one side of Melbourne to the other............
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-australian-post-cuts-letter-delivery-to-every-second-day-due-to-covid19/cc444500-aff1-4b0a-bbdb-9a9811cc4d74

Australia Post has finally been able to reduce home letter deliveries to every 2nd day, I think they have been trying to implement this for a decade or more with the usual outrage to following. Now thanks to CV-19 it just happens without any fanfare.

Realistically they could easily drop to 2 / week unless you have a PO Box.
RTT_Rules
Has been the case for us in the sticks for years. Makes no difference whatsoever to most people

AusPost says it is redeploying posties to do parcel deliveries which are a big problem ATM with lots of delays.

We sent an Express Post package from Castlemaine to Dandenong a fortnight ago - took 5 business days to arrive.......
"BrentonGolding"


YEs, we were same 2 x week.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I wouldnt care if it was 1 per week.  Less times i have to throw the junk mail out...
james.au
Australia Post could be completely abolished tomorrow and the junk mail would still be delivered, because that's done by private sector companies such as IVE.

Harmonising with the junk mail companies on twice per week might be a good move by Australia Post as old codgers shift into nursing homes and lose their grandfathered Telstra and AGL contracts that entitled them to free paper bills.
"justapassenger"


Prediction
By 2025 letter mail will be reduced to once per week.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I hardly get any letters by mail these days anyway. I much prefer to receive everything electronically where possible.

If I post a letter at the local post office to a local address, I've been told it goes to Toowoomba (~85km) for sorting before being returned to the local PO for delivery! What a great system...
  WimbledonW Train Controller

Location: Sydney
I hardly get any letters by mail these days anyway. I much prefer to receive everything electronically where possible.

If I post a letter at the local post office to a local address, I've been told it goes to Toowoomba (~85km) for sorting before being returned to the local PO for delivery! What a great system...
Graham4405
As they say "Use it or loose it". SadSad
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I hardly get any letters by mail these days anyway. I much prefer to receive everything electronically where possible.

If I post a letter at the local post office to a local address, I've been told it goes to Toowoomba (~85km) for sorting before being returned to the local PO for delivery! What a great system...
As they say "Use it or loose it". SadSad
WimbledonW
No, they say "Use it or lose it".
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I wouldnt care if it was 1 per week.  Less times i have to throw the junk mail out...
james.au
Clearly you don't buy or sell anything online. Small items such as DVDs, games and under-2cm-thick books aren't sent as parcels unless you deliberately put them in a satchel/box or request to pay the parcel rate at the counter (or if the staff member is a moron who thinks anything that isn't a single flimsy piece of paper in a 1mm thick envelope has to go as a 500 gram parcel).

As of 2020 (for the people in the future reading this) it costs $2.20 or $3.30 or $5.50 for a large letter, compared to $8.95+ for a parcel of the exact same size and weight. The huge discrepancy was due to yet another of Australia Post's money-making policies, when they discontinued the 0-250 gram parcel rate early last decade (the 250 gram weight bracket was one of the most-used items). They are charging more than double the minimum parcel cost (which is apparently required to be no less than four times the base stamp rate, likewise if a rival mail service wants to start a business - got to love how the Australian Government is above the law when it comes to anti-competitive practices, and can write its way out of anything that would put it at risk of falling foul of its own laws) all while providing less than half the service, and keeping the post offices closed every weekend and public holiday like we're still in 1970s Western Australia.

Why can't they team up with a company such as Officeworks (who recently dumped Mailman aka Fastway) or Coles/Woolworths and have a competent 7 day a week, long-hours postal service like other countries have? For what it's worth, Officeworks already sells stamps and is open much later and 7 days a week. Clearly Australia Post has no issues dropping off Express Post parcels at 11AM on a Sunday morning (because Express Post = $$$$$) like they did for me last week; it is beyond belief that you cannot actually go to a post office at the same time to post such a thing in the first place (when Melbourne went into stage 4 lockdown, most if not all official Post Shops lost their half-day Saturday trading). If you are dumb enough to drop a paid-for parcel in a street post box, you don't get proof of lodgement or a tracking number (unless you used one of their own prepaid satchels, but even then it won't get its initial scan so eBay's Money Back Guarantee will just love that - freeBay for buyers, feeBay for sellers).

Speaking of junk mail, most of it is delivered by hand by unauthorised people rather than through the post thus Australia Post can't do anything about it. I just can't imagine the postie going house to house dumping 5000 Aldi catalogues in each and every letterbox when they are already run off their feet due to the postal service's useless hours and days of operation (it's ten times worse when there's a long weekend, and a thousand times worse during the Easter/Christmas public holidays). There are more things for AP to worry about than junk mail, such as the reuse of uncancelled stamps and Postage Paid envelopes. The computerised system they use to automatically postmark envelopes is completely useless. Half the time the orange barcode (which shows up brightly under UV) and date is upside-down on the bottom or even on the back of an envelope with the stamps untouched, and the other half of the time a postmark doesn't even end up on the envelope at all.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I wouldnt care if it was 1 per week.  Less times i have to throw the junk mail out...
Clearly you don't buy or sell anything online. Small items such as DVDs, games and under-2cm-thick books aren't sent as parcels unless you deliberately put them in a satchel/box or request to pay the parcel rate at the counter (or if the staff member is a moron who thinks anything that isn't a single flimsy piece of paper in a 1mm thick envelope has to go as a 500 gram parcel).

As of 2020 (for the people in the future reading this) it costs $2.20 or $3.30 or $5.50 for a large letter, compared to $8.95+ for a parcel of the exact same size and weight. The huge discrepancy was due to yet another of Australia Post's money-making policies, when they discontinued the 0-250 gram parcel rate early last decade (the 250 gram weight bracket was one of the most-used items). They are charging more than double the minimum parcel cost (which is apparently required to be no less than four times the base stamp rate, likewise if a rival mail service wants to start a business - got to love how the Australian Government is above the law when it comes to anti-competitive practices, and can write its way out of anything that would put it at risk of falling foul of its own laws) all while providing less than half the service, and keeping the post offices closed every weekend and public holiday like we're still in 1970s Western Australia.

Why can't they team up with a company such as Officeworks (who recently dumped Mailman aka Fastway) or Coles/Woolworths and have a competent 7 day a week, long-hours postal service like other countries have? For what it's worth, Officeworks already sells stamps and is open much later and 7 days a week. Clearly Australia Post has no issues dropping off Express Post parcels at 11AM on a Sunday morning (because Express Post = $$$$$) like they did for me last week; it is beyond belief that you cannot actually go to a post office at the same time to post such a thing in the first place (when Melbourne went into stage 4 lockdown, most if not all official Post Shops lost their half-day Saturday trading). If you are dumb enough to drop a paid-for parcel in a street post box, you don't get proof of lodgement or a tracking number (unless you used one of their own prepaid satchels, but even then it won't get its initial scan so eBay's Money Back Guarantee will just love that - freeBay for buyers, feeBay for sellers).

Speaking of junk mail, most of it is delivered by hand by unauthorised people rather than through the post thus Australia Post can't do anything about it. I just can't imagine the postie going house to house dumping 5000 Aldi catalogues in each and every letterbox when they are already run off their feet due to the postal service's useless hours and days of operation (it's ten times worse when there's a long weekend, and a thousand times worse during the Easter/Christmas public holidays). There are more things for AP to worry about than junk mail, such as the reuse of uncancelled stamps and Postage Paid envelopes. The computerised system they use to automatically postmark envelopes is completely useless. Half the time the orange barcode (which shows up brightly under UV) and date is upside-down on the bottom or even on the back of an envelope with the stamps untouched, and the other half of the time a postmark doesn't even end up on the envelope at all.
Heihachi_73
To be fair, the govt has in the past many times looked at both selling and opening up AP letter delivery for competition as Australia had one of the profitable postal systems in the world. Honestly anyone thinking AP is bad needs to travel, its a far more dynamic postal/parcel service than most others.

Howard actually came very close to selling AP, not sure why they stopped.

However today times are very much different. The Letter service is now a financial basket case. $B dollars of sorting equipment is getting less work each week. The volume of letters has plummeted and I think they know as the oldies leave us, the remaining traffic will evaporate quickly. A quick google shows something like ~20% YOY collapse for last 10 years. Basically we are witnessing the end of the mail letter service as humans have known it for the last 200 years and it won't take much longer before it follows the telegram service and folds completely.

So yes, the mail service frequency will continue to decline and outsourcing or opening up to competition won't save it as who would get involved.

Perhaps the tide will reverse on junk mail delivery in that these people will be contracted to deliver mail?

Talking to my dad today, he feels AP will evolve into the general store of the mid 21st century, basically providing a shop front customer service centre for all those govt and banking services that used to exist as those.  Maybe even form a general savings bank for small fund customers.

Perhaps letter delivery may be completely abandoned and replaced as a form of parcel, back to your 0-250g size. Get a sms to come pick it up or pay more for home delivery.

Maybe of interest to some but the UAE never had a street mail service partly because the streets had no names until not that long ago, its PO Box only. You can pay a fee and have a PO Box attached to your house. We retain a PO Box into the PO Box tower near the shops, but it gets very little use these days. In 2012 it was hard to get, but I bet today its easy. Mostly all we get is NAB statement (not sure why not online) and may Railway mag subscription outside the limited number of people who bother to send us Christmas cards and birthday cards. Everything else is mostly couriered to our house. Emirates ID and bank cards are only handed over to you in person.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
My local politician has been all over this, causing the bunch of non triple digit IQers that voted her in to comment with the confected outrage about how parcel traffic is booming - yes, the mouth breathers that elected her cannot tell the difference between letters and parcels.

For what it matters, I and I am sure many others get so few letters AP could go to once fortnightly letter drops and I wouldn’t even notice, that’s about how often I get a letter anyway.

Whilst being on first name terms with my local parcel postie and regular couriers I have no idea whether I allegedly get a letter delivery per day or not.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE


For what it matters, I and I am sure many others get so few letters AP could go to once fortnightly letter drops and I wouldn’t even notice, that’s about how often I get a letter anyway.

.
"Aaron"


Agree, if they had changed and not told anyone almost no one would have noticed. Those getting their knickers in a knot likely no idea of what mail they actually get and nothing better to do. We got 3 x week mail service on an acreage before getting the jack of the dumb ar$ed delivery driver and got a PO box, accessed once a week 20 years ago, life went on.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I don’t know if I have mentioned this on RP or not, it is my favourite story (among many) of how woeful Australia Post are at the moment.

Most here are not going to be familiar with suburban Adelaide, but I sent a package from the CBD, which needed to reach an address in Lockleys, which adjoins Adelaide Airport.

After a week or so it was reported by the recipient as being undelivered and the tracking revealed that Australia Post collected the item and took it for processing at Gouger St in the CBD, they then sent it to their processing facility in Netley, which also adjoins the Adelaide Airport.

From there, instead of making the journey to the receiving address it was instead then sent to Melbourne for ‘processing’ apparently Netley was too busy to sent it on a further twelve minutes drive (maybe not even) down the road. Instead I think they took it to the airport, nearly necessitating a drive into Lockleys to put it on an aircraft and send it to the most COVID stricken place in Australia for expedience.

My local parcel postie is a great guy and he does a fantastic job but the organisation he works for are idiotic.
  Gayspie Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-australian-post-cuts-letter-delivery-to-every-second-day-due-to-covid19/cc444500-aff1-4b0a-bbdb-9a9811cc4d74

Australia Post has finally been able to reduce home letter deliveries to every 2nd day, I think they have been trying to implement this for a decade or more with the usual outrage to following. Now thanks to CV-19 it just happens without any fanfare.

Realistically they could easily drop to 2 / week unless you have a PO Box.
RTT_Rules
Never waste a good crisis. Wink
  Brianr Assistant Commissioner

Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
When I moved to NZ in 2010, I was surprised that mail was still delivered 6 days per week. However we moved to 3 deliveries per week a few years ago.  Either M-W-F or T-T-S.
But there is an alternative service,  DXMail, which I think may be 5 days per week. I find it annoying as you cannot have DXMail stopped if you are away, not sure about redirection.  Unfortunately it tends to be used by important services eg my GP and the local hospital .
I get very little mail through NZ Post, mainly addressed mail from charities, despite my emails to them telling them that their glossy brochures go straight to recycling so a waste of their funds.  I have a mailbox sticker saying no junk mail which generally works but election advertising will start here next week and that takes no notice of such stickers.
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
When I moved to NZ in 2010, I was surprised that mail was still delivered 6 days per week. However we moved to 3 deliveries per week a few years ago.  Either M-W-F or T-T-S.
But there is an alternative service,  DXMail, which I think may be 5 days per week. I find it annoying as you cannot have DXMail stopped if you are away, not sure about redirection.  Unfortunately it tends to be used by important services eg my GP and the local hospital .
I get very little mail through NZ Post, mainly addressed mail from charities, despite my emails to them telling them that their glossy brochures go straight to recycling so a waste of their funds.  I have a mailbox sticker saying no junk mail which generally works but election advertising will start here next week and that takes no notice of such stickers.
Brianr
I reckon the last letter I'll ever receive as the postal system finally collapses will be one of those charity begging letters.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I wouldn't mind the concentration on local parcel delivery it it was being done efficiently. My neighbour runs her own fashion design business from home and uses parcel post quite a lot. Two weeks ago, she sent one to Werribee - a place to which she or I could drive in 40 minutes. The parcel still hasn't arrived. This isn't the first such instance she's had of a complete lack of service. Why is the head honcho of AP getting over $2.5 m a year and talking about bonuses? It certainly can't be for "exceptional service."
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I'm nearly up to 2 weeks for a parcel to get from Melb to Central Vic....
I assume you are tracking it Carnot?

I had a Fastway delivery from Melbourne a month or so back, never arrived.

Tracking showed it out for delivery a few days after it was shipped out then returned to Bendigo as undeliverable. Then sent out again a week later and shown on tracking as delivered at 8.40 PM on a Tuesday night!!! Which it wasn't, that was a lie, I was working in my office in the front room till after 11  and even if I hadn't heard the driver park out front or coming up the steps to the door the sensor light would have been a dead give away.

This sort of thing is becoming more and more common during Covid due to massive parcel loads leading to short cuts being taken by overworked drivers and contractors.
BrentonGolding
Tracking says it was processed in Melbourne on August 29.  And it hasn't moved since then....

Auspost is essentially in crisis. Dysfunctional.  It'll take them weeks and months to sort out.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Yep, takes a while these days. Apparently the Sunshine West mail sorting facility ended up with the coronavirus in July or early August so a lot of stuff ended up being diverted to Strathfield NSW. I bought a CD from Ferntree Gully last month and it took nearly a week to get to Ringwood.

Sponsored advertisement

Display from: