Location: Somewhere you're not
Scott Morrison to step down as Liberal leader at the next party room meeting, possible replacement will be Peter Dutton.
Federal Election 2022
Topic moved from The Lounge by bevans on 17 Feb 2022 11:38
lsrailfan
Minister for Railways
Location: Somewhere you're not
ANR
Chief Commissioner
It's not going to be e z for Albanese to work with a large cross bench.
justapassenger
Minister for Railways
KK will likely end up with a senate position, somehow.Perhaps we need a new Ambassador to Russia?
ANR
Chief Commissioner
The faceless men are already doing the number crunching.
Sonofagunzel
Minister for Railways
Wouldn’t it be funny if Labor missed out on a clear majority by one seat!Barrie Cassidy noted that the ALP got just 31% of primary vote so far.Kristina Keneally is damaged goods, they parachuted her in from over on the North Shore, the locals of Fowler more or less gave her a 2 fingered salute.
Dai La looks to have won Fowler.
ANR
Chief Commissioner
The irony is that KK (not Kim Kardashian) probably had a better chance winning the seat of Mackellar.
The Vinelander
Minister for Railways
Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
The representative from SA now even further on the outer with the new government firmly and seriously supporting renewables and stronger carbon emission targets.
Now we'll really get the doom and gloom scenarios from that dinosaur. It hasn't been a good start to 2022 for you hey
0:00 Antony Green called Frydenberg's seat as won by the independent. I was wishing he'd hold on as the Libs are left with Dutton to rebuild.
The Murdoch media
Castrated...no impact whatsoever...once again
From one of the great US Presidents', FDR's campaigns from around 90 years ago:
https://youtu.be/gqsT4xnKZPg
Mike.
Now we'll really get the doom and gloom scenarios from that dinosaur. It hasn't been a good start to 2022 for you hey
0:00 Antony Green called Frydenberg's seat as won by the independent. I was wishing he'd hold on as the Libs are left with Dutton to rebuild.
The Murdoch media
Castrated...no impact whatsoever...once again
From one of the great US Presidents', FDR's campaigns from around 90 years ago:
https://youtu.be/gqsT4xnKZPg
Mike.
kapow
Junior Train Controller
Location: Melmac
The representative from SA now even further on the outer with the new government firmly and seriously supporting renewables and stronger carbon emission targets.I live in the Kooyong electorate so I’m happy he didn’t hold
Now we'll really get the doom and gloom scenarios from that dinosaur. It hasn't been a good start to 2022 for you hey
0:00 Antony Green called Frydenberg's seat as won by the independent. I was wishing he'd hold on as the Libs are left with Dutton to rebuild.
The Murdoch media
Castrated...no impact whatsoever...once again
From one of the great US Presidents', FDR's campaigns from around 90 years ago:
https://youtu.be/gqsT4xnKZPg
Mike.
The Vinelander
Minister for Railways
Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Because of who I am, and going right back to the Whitlam Labor years I've never voted conservative. However notwithstanding Josh's not very conciliatory speech as he did not congratulate Mon Ryan on her win, the Libs really needed him to re build their party.
Now it's likely they will turn to the warmonger Dutton and head even further to the Right... a terrible outcome for democracy, but one the Murdoch News Ltd filth will likely hoist their petard on judging by its unashamed support for the dysfunctional Trump in the US.
Mike.
Now it's likely they will turn to the warmonger Dutton and head even further to the Right... a terrible outcome for democracy, but one the Murdoch News Ltd filth will likely hoist their petard on judging by its unashamed support for the dysfunctional Trump in the US.
Mike.
Carnot
Minister for Railways
I'm wondering how Whitlam-esque the Albo Govt will be.
Shades of 1972 in this election. And Albo will face similar of not more significant geo-political challenges.
Does he cave in to China, or fight them?
Shades of 1972 in this election. And Albo will face similar of not more significant geo-political challenges.
Does he cave in to China, or fight them?
Aaron
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: University of Adelaide SA
I'm wondering how Whitlam-esque the Albo Govt will be.People say that after every ALP win!
Shades of 1972 in this election. And Albo will face similar of not more significant geo-political challenges.
Does he cave in to China, or fight them?
He will cave to China - Senator Wong at least will see to it.
EDIT: And I should say people say that it’s a Menzies like win (or possibly to become ‘Howard like’) when the LNP win.
Humans look for pattern and similarity when generally there is none.
Valvegear
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Banned
The very interesting feature was notionally Liberal seats where the locals wanted to give ScoMo and company a good kick in the gluteus maximus, but couldn't bring themselves to vote Labor. Enter the Independents, who have had a picnic.
Wouldn’t it be funny if Labor missed out on a clear majority by one seat!Exactly the thought that had occurred to me. You can always depend upon some dimwit in the ALP to know better than the locals do. In this case, with a heavy Asian population, the locals knew who they wanted, and had KK parachuted into their midst instead. She has been soundly thrashed, and could cost the ALP a majority.
It's not going to be e z for Albanese to work with a large cross bench.I reckon it will be easier than you think. At the worst, he will only need a couple to vote with him, and he's more likely to get them from a larger pool than from one or two.
freightgate
Minister for Railways
Location: Albury, New South Wales
KK was never liked locally never liked at state level and was pushed out of the senate by the ALP. She unfortunately is not a liked politician the game backfiring on the ALP in what was considered a safe labour seat. The public are more wise now to this crap from the bigger parties.
don_dunstan
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Adelaide proud
The representative from SA ...I live rent free in your little brain don't I.
Now we'll really get the doom and gloom scenarios from that dinosaur. It hasn't been a good start to 2022 for you heyNobody can answer very basic questions about how this thing is going to work. Show me a country that has gone over 50% renewables without a problem.
Seeing as you're such an ardent believer in this thing can you answer me two very simple questions about your belief:
- What is the cost of the program that's being proposed? Ball-park figure will do.
- What are the expected outcomes in terms of amelioration of climate change?
don_dunstan
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Adelaide proud
I'm concerned that it will be illegal to criticize the Communist Party of China as Penny Wong intimated around 18 months ago - once we go down the path of restriction of free speech in order to protect trade relationships we really aren't a liberal democracy any more.I'm wondering how Whitlam-esque the Albo Govt will be.People say that after every ALP win!
Shades of 1972 in this election. And Albo will face similar of not more significant geo-political challenges.
Does he cave in to China, or fight them?
He will cave to China - Senator Wong at least will see to it.
don_dunstan
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Adelaide proud
News.com.au says that Albanese has got to 77 seats and a majority of one but the ABC says that hasn't happened yet.
There were a few very dark spots of the ALP last night, Keneally not being elected in Fowler for one; the election of Green and Teal people over Labor in many places, the loss of Labor seats to those candidates in QLD in particular. Also the highest vote for other (third party) candidates since WWII.
I'm not sure its the comprehensive win that many in the Labor Party were hoping for because of that - but with the Liberals nowhere near forming government then there's no alternative but a Labor led government.
There were a few very dark spots of the ALP last night, Keneally not being elected in Fowler for one; the election of Green and Teal people over Labor in many places, the loss of Labor seats to those candidates in QLD in particular. Also the highest vote for other (third party) candidates since WWII.
I'm not sure its the comprehensive win that many in the Labor Party were hoping for because of that - but with the Liberals nowhere near forming government then there's no alternative but a Labor led government.
The Vinelander
Minister for Railways
Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Seeing as you're such an ardent believer in this thing can you answer me two very simple questions about your belief:
- What is the cost of the program that's being proposed? Ball-park figure will do.
- What are the expected outcomes in terms of amelioration of climate change?
No, I will not engage with you on YOUR terms. The electorate have spoken...suck it up princess.
M.
don_dunstan
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Adelaide proud
Speaks volumes that you can't explain what the platform actually is, how much it will cost and what the expected outcomes are.
Seeing as you're such an ardent believer in this thing can you answer me two very simple questions about your belief:
- What is the cost of the program that's being proposed? Ball-park figure will do.
- What are the expected outcomes in terms of amelioration of climate change?
No, I will not engage with you on YOUR terms. The electorate have spoken...suck it up princess.
M.
RTT_Rules
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Dubai UAE
Ok moderatorsDo we know what this result means for rail investment ?Not much, go back to the 2007 - 2013. Was there any significant change to preceeding investment strategy and likewise any significant change after 2013.
Basically national interstate lines appear to receive investment using the same models and standards that both parties recognise or at least seem to follow with only minor tweeks.
JAP didn't write the above, I did in replying to Freightgate.
Yet some how I've replaced JAP other comment not related or in response to rail investment.
RTT_Rules
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Dubai UAE
Because of who I am, and going right back to the Whitlam Labor years I've never voted conservative. However notwithstanding Josh's not very conciliatory speech as he did not congratulate Mon Ryan on her win, the Libs really needed him to re build their party.JF will be given a new seat elsewhere at the next election. I think the LNP would see him as future leadership material, so it will get down to discussions in the back rooms of what they can do for him over next 3 years as a gap filler.
Now it's likely they will turn to the warmonger Dutton and head even further to the Right... a terrible outcome for democracy, but one the Murdoch News Ltd filth will likely hoist their petard on judging by its unashamed support for the dysfunctional Trump in the US.
Mike.
Dutton is leader because of "last man standing", but there are others who will get senior roles to train and build their skills and profile. Dutton will likely lead to the next election which will already be deemed a ALP win unless they complete muff it up, (read 2010 where they only just got back in), after than Dutton will step down and retire at the ripe old age of 54. Then move into the private sector where he will be offered senior board or advsiory roles.
You can always tell how good a former PM or very senior front bench MP was, not by their performance during their time as a MP, but by what jobs they are offered by the private sector on retiring from being an MP.
RTT_Rules
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Dubai UAE
I reckon it will be easier than you think. At the worst, he will only need a couple to vote with him, and he's more likely to get them from a larger pool than from one or two.Yep, competition between the IND's unlike 2010 means they will likely need to be far more accommadating or being flicked aside for another with more moderate concessions.
RTT_Rules
Oliver Bullied, CME
Location: Dubai UAE
KK was never liked locally never liked at state level and was pushed out of the senate by the ALP. She unfortunately is not a liked politician the game backfiring on the ALP in what was considered a safe labour seat. The public are more wise now to this crap from the bigger parties.Yep, I will never ever vote for a high profile candidate dropped into my seat.
Carnot
Minister for Railways
The Senate will be where the action will be at. I give it 18 months before a Double Dissolution...
justapassenger
Minister for Railways
Correct.Ok moderatorsDo we know what this result means for rail investment ?Not much, go back to the 2007 - 2013. Was there any significant change to preceeding investment strategy and likewise any significant change after 2013.
Basically national interstate lines appear to receive investment using the same models and standards that both parties recognise or at least seem to follow with only minor tweeks.
JAP didn't write the above, I did in replying to Freightgate.
Yet some how I've replaced JAP other comment not related or in response to rail investment.
The post I wrote about minority/coalition governments being a normal part of mature democracies (which had no mention of rail investment, just like well over 99% of the election campaign by both major parties) was completely wiped out and replaced with your comment.
justapassenger
Minister for Railways
I might be interested if a high quality candidate was dropped into my seat, providing they pledged to move to a residence within the electorate within three months of the election date.KK was never liked locally never liked at state level and was pushed out of the senate by the ALP. She unfortunately is not a liked politician the game backfiring on the ALP in what was considered a safe labour seat. The public are more wise now to this crap from the bigger parties.Yep, I will never ever vote for a high profile candidate dropped into my seat.