Who trains locomotive drivers?

 
  ImJoe Beginner

Hello everyone
I can see some companies are looking for locomotive drivers.Experienced.
However, I could not find anyone who trains locomotive drivers to employ.
Where do you get training to get employed?
For example CityRail trains train drivers and employes them.
Sydney Buses have similar system-we train you to employ you.
How do you go about training-employment in locomotive business?
Thanks
Joe

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  412M Assistant Commissioner

In NSW, there are various companies that you have to pay to get taught to become a driver, and then apply to the railway company to become a driver for them. Southern Cross Rail Services is one such training company.

Most other states, you apply to the railway company (for example, V/line), as a trainee driver, then they select you for training and train you, whilst paying you.
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
There are some companies that hire trainees, and they will put them through private training with a training company (you can see some of them advertised in Railway Digest from time to time). I think you'll find that a lot of the smaller operators will look to hire trainees, and put them through. I know Independant Rail, Southern Shorthaul and P&O have all looked for trainee drivers in the last 12 months.
  FieldShunt74 Chief Commissioner

In NSW, there are various companies that you have to pay to get taught to become a driver, and then apply to the railway company to become a driver for them. Southern Cross Rail Services is one such training company.

Most other states, you apply to the railway company (for example, V/line), as a trainee driver, then they select you for training and train you, whilst paying you.
"412M"


It's not quite like you say, just because you're in NSW doesn't mean you'll have to pay for your own courses.  The freight operators here (most of whom are in other states as well) periodically hire trainees and pay them to get their qualifications.  Other times they just take previously qualified crews.  Paying your own way can increase your chances of getting hired, but it's not the only option here.
  GregW67 Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney Australia
Pacific National, the main freight operator in NSW, says they are currently seeking new locomotive drivers for their coal operations.  The main requirements seem to be a current class C drivers licence and the ability to pass a medical examination:

http://www.pacificnational.com.au/corporate/employment.asp
  Xgentric Chief Commissioner

As you might know, there are two courses (in NSW, at least) - Safeworking, and Engine & Air. The Safeworking (with SCRT) is an 18 day course, and the Engine & Air, 10 days.

SCRT is very good, with excellent trainers and staff, but it is quite expensive, if you are paying yourself. In 2001 the Safeworking course cost $2700, and most participants were sponsored by their employers. They took a max of 10 for each course.  They will also run courses wherever the demand might be, and not just in Sydney.

At the time (2001), they would also help you to find work, but there was more demand for train crew then.
  ImJoe Beginner

Everyone thanks for quick response.
You have given me invaluable info and put me on the right track.
Joe
  TheLoneGunMan Assistant Commissioner

Location: At NF88.7 taking pictures
As you might know, there are two courses (in NSW, at least) - Safeworking, and Engine & Air. The Safeworking (with SCRT) is an 18 day course, and the Engine & Air, 10 days.

SCRT is very good, with excellent trainers and staff, but it is quite expensive, if you are paying yourself. In 2001 the Safeworking course cost $2700, and most participants were sponsored by their employers. They took a max of 10 for each course.  They will also run courses wherever the demand might be, and not just in Sydney.

At the time (2001), they would also help you to find work, but there was more demand for train crew then.
"Xgentric"


Hi ImJoe,

I did the SCRT course, it cost me $2,150 and its a fulltime 3 week course. The course entails all systems of safeworking, air brake, and partial completion of the Ceritificate 3. I'm now employed with SSR, and enjoying the variety of shifts and the knowledge that is being given to me from the drivers whom I enjoy working with.

TLGM
  Maikha Moderator Not a gunzel

I did the course with then Australian Rail Training (Which has since become National Rail Training), in Parkes, which is the alternative to the SCRT course. Although I'm not employed in the industry, many blokes in my class, who came from all walks of life, were all taken on by the smaller private operators as trainees.
  ImJoe Beginner

Great info guys
Thanks
It is also good to know that those paid courses are recognized by employers.

TheLoneGunMan

Tell me more about the job.

How long is the shift?
How many hours a week on average you work?

Thanks
Joe
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Tell me more about the job.

How long is the shift?
How many hours a week on average you work?
"ImJoe"


If you're curious, KRviator posted a fantastic thread up here a while ago in the employment section entitled "so you want to be a train driver", which had a fantastic "storyline" of his experiences.

There is also a fantastic RD article written by Bernie Baker about what is involved in being a train driver, although how you'd track that down, I don't know.
  Xgentric Chief Commissioner

This site has a good description of QR Central Coal working, under A day in the life of a train driver, on page 9:

http://www.qrnational.com.au/Careers/Documents/QRExperiencedTrainDriverInformationPack.pdf
  craigd Deputy Commissioner

Location: A Thinktank near you
Hello everyone
I can see some companies are looking for locomotive drivers.Experienced.
However, I could not find anyone who trains locomotive drivers to employ.
Where do you get training to get employed?
For example CityRail trains train drivers and employes them.
Sydney Buses have similar system-we train you to employ you.
How do you go about training-employment in locomotive business?
Thanks
Joe
"ImJoe"


You join a railway company that hires trainees. QR does (they're hiring a lot of new people at the moment in the Hunter Valley who are coming in to skill up to level 1 [rollby] or level 2 [2nd person]), CityRail does, and PN would do too but I think they're having plenty of internal problems and would prefer qualified people so there is only minimal training required. I think Silverton/Mometum/SouthSpur would have too (since Coote owned CERT) but now that Chris Corrigan's holding company bought Pota, etc. and I think might also own Coote's rail business, I don't know what they are doing re hiring people with little or no rail experience.

This is probably a subject better discussion in the employment forum.

Craig.

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