QR Trainee Driver positions

 
  ijustwanna Beginner

ozstig, yeah he did say it covered quite alot. he was unsure if he got the sight test all correct and he said the hearing test was tough also. but i suppose that's the nature of the job. he is happy he got this far and i suppose a 95% chance is good. thanks for your reply.

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  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere
HR can be a little slow, give it a couple of weeks and call them to follow up.

When I was informed they left it until the last minute, right on the 4 weeks in which I had to give notice of my transfer within QRN..
  ijustwanna Beginner

another question for previous trainees or others in the know. if there are several intakes of trainees, are all successful applicants notified in advance? or are they notified shortly before the intake begins? with the current intake for part time trainees, does anyone know of the expected start dates and how many intakes there are? my nephew is stressing about the whole process and really wants to know either way.
  macstr Station Master

Location: Inglewood, Queensland
There was a start date on December 7 or around then for the start of training, then there were start dates in late January and more in February as far as i know.
  ijustwanna Beginner

and are the successful applicants notified in advance?
  macstr Station Master

Location: Inglewood, Queensland
They would have sent the applicant a letter of offer and would work all that stuff out.
  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere
Rumor has it another intake for Mackay, Rocky and Emerald will be advertised in January.
  A7EL Station Master

Location: At my desk
20 Trainee's in Jilalan next year.
  rook Locomotive Driver

20 Trainee's in Jilalan next year.
"A7EL"

Any (even rough) idea when they'll be advertised?
  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere
As I mentioned January.
  rook Locomotive Driver

As I mentioned January.
"thelastname"

Sorry, I thought that the intakes that you (Mackay, Rocky and Emerald) and A7EL (Jilalan) mentioned might be distinct, as the first 3 are freight depots, and the latter coal.

Is there just one mass recruitment program planned for all QRN?
  A7EL Station Master

Location: At my desk
I don't know if it will be "en mass", but I am pretty sure that the advertising will be local.  The mass 2007 intake (which I was part of) has pretty well failed, most of my class have left Jilalan.  I hear they will be targeting the shunters and RO's that know the perils of shiftwork and live local.
  Expost Chief Commissioner

In my honest opinion, QRN should register as an RTO, because that all they seem to be doing, training up new traincrew to be poached or leave for other carriers.
  gsxxxr_750 Junior Train Controller

The 20 trainee driver jobs mentioned in the memo stated they were for coal north and not just Jilalan. With the amount of drivers that have left in the past 12 months I wouldn't be surprised if that number is increased, but then again they lost the Hail Creek contract so maybe not.
  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere

They will be lucky to have any drivers if this propsal goes through with the BLP's.

The proposal is if you finish at 4am and go on to a 2 day BLP (block lesuire peroid) it will finish at 48hrs exactly after it started, instead of the 00:01 next day as it is now.

  PILBARAMAN Train Controller

Location: PILBARA



The 20 trainee driver jobs mentioned in the memo stated they were for coal north and not just Jilalan. With the amount of drivers that have left in the past 12 months I wouldn't be surprised if that number is increased, but then again they lost the Hail Creek contract so maybe not.

"gsxxxr_750"


Why are all these drivers leaving?Is it due to money or opportunities elsewhere or both,I have noticed the drivers in these depots are on pretty good coin for a two driver operation.

  A7EL Station Master

Location: At my desk
Drivers from other depots have stated that the conditions aren't so good a Jilalan.  I signed on for the roster with long weekends (5 and 4 day weekend alternating) every (8 week) cycle, and that roster has gone.  The ones who want the coin have gone to the Pilbara.  Older drivers are retiring.  Others have had enough of the shiftwork where you are constantly fatigued, you have to work the roster to know what I am talking about.  Others have had enough of the ex-Patricks and ex-Bluescope managers who are changing the conditions.  The coin here isn't worth it in the end.
  TigerBlood Locomotive Fireman

QRN pays dick all compared to other companies. Also now being private the job security is just as poor as any other rail operator. So the question is why stay with this 2 bit piece of trash company?
  PILBARAMAN Train Controller

Location: PILBARA
QRN pays smeg all compared to other companies. Also now being private the job security is just as poor as any other rail operator. So the question is why stay with this 2 bit piece of trash company?
"TigerBlood"


I commented earlier regarding the pay in the coal 1 depots being good for a 2 driver operation,in comparison to other operators either in Queensland or elsewhere.
Their only competitor in the coal on their home turf-PN,pays a bit less from what I can work out and I would imagine you could still get a fair bit of OT so the money would not be too far off what you could get in the Pilbara for being away a fortnight at a time unless you have been there for a few years,though the fortnight off when you get home is a big attraction for a lot of people.
As for being a Private company,well that does not have to effect job security because as an individual you provide your own security if you do your job safely and well,if you are unlucky enough to be told your position is redundant due to a downturn or other reasons they will normally try and transfer you to another depot or you take the package on offer and move to another operator.The private rail industry is not that scary,I have worked in it for quite a while.
  TigerBlood Locomotive Fireman

The part about job security is more of a reference to when it was QR and you couldn't (read very, very hard) to lose your job.
  PILBARAMAN Train Controller

Location: PILBARA
The part about job security is more of a reference to when it was QR and you couldn't (read very, very hard) to lose your job.
"TigerBlood"

Unfortunately some things can't stay the same,there are always changes in the workplace and quite often we don't agree with them,we just have to get used to them.
On another note I see QRN have advertised again for Qualified drivers for Bluff,Jilalan,Moranbah,Rocky,Gladstone,Mackay and Pring,and Trainee drivers as well I have noticed.
  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere
The part about job security is more of a reference to when it was QR and you couldn't (read very, very hard) to lose your job.
"TigerBlood"

Unfortunately some things can't stay the same,there are always changes in the workplace and quite often we don't agree with them,we just have to get used to them.
On another note I see QRN have advertised again for Qualified drivers for Bluff,Jilalan,Moranbah,Rocky,Gladstone,Mackay and Pring. 
"PILBARAMAN"


Also Melbourne and Perth. 
  TigerBlood Locomotive Fireman

They're looking at transfers at the moment.
  rook Locomotive Driver

Would somebody familiar with recent conditions in QRN's training program mind sketching out how the trainee Stages work, e.g. how long an average trainee spends at each stage?  (The EBA refers to 4 different Stages.) 

Was QRN Recruitment's information about their program broadly accurate?  If not, what were the gotchas?
- Were training resources (e.g. tutor drivers) available on a timely basis?
- Was there any apparent dragging out of trainee progression in order to keep trainees on the lower rungs of the EBA wage ladder?

Other issues
- Is there any advantage, for training purposes, in aiming at one depot vs another?
- Do trainees get any significant OT opportunities during the training period, or are the amounts shown in the EBA basically what you get?

Thanks in advance!
  thelastname Photo Overlord

Location: Somewhere
I've just been through the training process in Townsville and I am now a stage 4 after starting on the 3rd October 2011.

Pay stage 1-3
5 weeks in class doing standards and safe working which is stage 1.
5 weeks out on track observing safe working practice (we actually only did 3 weeks so we could be out of school by Christmas) stage 2.
4 weeks in class doing diesels and air, ATP and simulator which is stage 3.

Pay stage 4
3-4 months (so my tutor informs me) as a stage 4.

Other depots may do things differently. We didn't do distributed power as it's not required.

They put 15 on initially, 1 went to Mackay and one was sacked leaving 2-3 tutors spare.

As for OT you only get OT when you work your SLP or BLP (single or block leisure period) which we were not allowed to do until stage 4.

Hope that helps.

 

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