Goodwood Junction Underpass

 
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
They are advertising on the radio that it will start this weekend.

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  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

IIRC Torrens Transit and Southlink had extendered rosters for the OH and GC Line past Feb 3rd I believe its only a safety precaution on Adelaide Metros part incase something unforeseen happens from the track works. But I think its highly likely the line will be reopened on the 14th
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Had a few minutes to inspect work at the down side of Millswood loop this evening.

Signal 516 is on a mast on the wrong side of the track. The footing for the Gantry, ex 439 is there but the gantry is lying trackside.

An IRJ had been welded in recently and workers were grinding back the weld.

The was no sign of track circuit cables yet but the junction boxes were there.

I suspect it will be touch and go for Sunday particularly with bad weather forecast.

There have been no test trains to check that the LX signals operate nor any public notices warning of such movements.

There is a bad mud hole in the ARTC track 100m north of the Goodwood road subway.

Ian
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
Around 8am Friday morning (12 July), the new signals on Belair line around Goodwood & Millswood are illuminated and, superficially at least, look ready for business.  The up and down starter signals inside the Millswood loop are both turned at 90 degrees to the track (but are also lit) and there are Stop boards inside the loop.

Obviously nobody has told Pacific-National about this, because around 07.50, the Melbourne-bound Overland came along and dutifully pulled up at the red signal no. 515 (down starting signal for main line at Millswood loop).  This signal is positioned on west side of the BG line and could conceivably apply to the SG.  Five minutes delay ensued, presumably while driver sought permission to pass a red Absolute signal!

Can't be too critical about the driver here - if you were driving a train and came to a red signal you were not expecting, would you pull up the train and ask permission, or sail on past thinking "she'll be right".  Lets hope that freight trains don't do the same, otherwise some big delays likely at Cross Road and Leader St LX's

It will be touch and go, but in principle they could run test trains to Belair on Friday (maybe late at night in case some malfunction with LX etc), do some driver familiarisation runs on Saturday, then start the public service on Sunday.   As long as nothing goes wrong . . .
  Bruce_18 Beginner

Goodwood Platform 1 has been like this for around three weeks.
It looks as though it's collapsed as a result of digging down to relay the track bed.


First time trying to upload pictures, so I hope this works.

Nope, I failed, pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/98649210@N06/with/9246112918/
  fabricator Chief Commissioner

Location: Gawler
Goodwood Platform 1 has been like this for around three weeks.
It looks as though it's collapsed as a result of digging down to relay the track bed.
Bruce_18
Ouch, just as well Belair trains are using platform 3 now. I'd say replacement precast concrete is on order, while they play the blame game.

The hose sticking out from under the concrete and mud is a clue to what happened. When they did the Gawler line some platform faces were dug below the foundation level, I always wondered if water getting in could cause a collapse.
  Bruce_18 Beginner

891 Radio just interviewed Emma Thomas, the Rail Commissioner and Deputy Chief Executive of DPTI, and It was said that there was a problem in signalling while commissioning the corridor, she couldn't confirm a new opening date, but 'it will be days, not months' before it reopens, on the brighter side, she also said train buffs are important people.

In short, the 14th of July date has been thrown out completely.
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Steam4ian, I'm not sure if it was a test train or not but I saw a 2 car 3100 set heading out of the ARS, then went left past the old WYE box at approximately 1430 hrs this afternoon and return at approximately 1535 hrs at the ARS.
The 2 car set wasn't on the southern most line out of the ARS but the next line over.
I'm working at the SAHMRI site next to the new RAH atm and was at the loading dock around the back and watched it all unfold in front of me.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
The resumption of rail services on the Belair line - scheduled for this Sunday, 14 July – will be delayed due to a signalling issue.

The Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure advises services will resume once officials are confident the signalling issue has been resolved.

In the meantime substitute bus services will remain in place.

It will also operate in tandem with trains for a 48 hour period after rail services resume ensuring the smoothest possible transition to rail operations.

With customer and public safety the Rail Commissioner’s highest priority, the decision was made to delay trains after the latest system tests identified repair work was required on a single signal on the Belair line.

The department’s no-risk approach to rail safety means the signal in question must now be re-tested to ensure the problem has been rectified.

Rail Commissioner, Emma Thomas said while she was disappointed the original re- opening was not possible, there is no room for compromise where safety is concerned.

“We deliberately scheduled to return on a Sunday to provide a contingency should an issue such as this be identified, but I do acknowledge the short notice and apologise to our customers,” she said.

“But in a rail environment there is no room to move on the safety of our passengers, our staff and the general public.”

“I want to reassure everyone that this is our safety system at work, doing what it should by identifying issues and allowing us to rectify them and keep our network safe.”
Adelaide Metro
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Service-updates/Belair-Line-Re-opening-Delayed
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Steam4ian, I'm not sure if it was a test train or not but I saw a 2 car 3100 set heading out of the ARS, then went left past the old WYE box at approximately 1430 hrs this afternoon and return at approximately 1535 hrs at the ARS.
The 2 car set wasn't on the southern most line out of the ARS but the next line over.
I'm working at the SAHMRI site next to the new RAH atm and was at the loading dock around the back and watched it all unfold in front of me.
SAR520SMBH
SAR520SMBH,
I was having a look at the Millswood loop this afternoon and particularly at the new insulated joint which Steamian reported.  No track circuit connections to the rail has been installed, but yesterday I saw cable being pulled from the nearest lineside cabinet to the vicinity of the joint.  I conclude that the cable run must have been for the axle counter was had been refitted to the rail adjacent to the joint and signal 516.

On my way back along Cromer Cres I heard the sound of an approaching tyrain and was surprised to see the 3100 set at 1435 heading onto the Belair Line.  I headed down to the Leader St LX where a number of orange vests were gathered.

1. Road barriers and lollipops in position prior to passage of test train


2. Gates lower and test train passes at 14:55


The train then stopped at Wayville Stn and eventually returned to ARS

3. Signal 515 has now acquired an arrow to indicate that it does not apply to the ARTC line


4. No operating railway is complete without TSRs.  These appeared on Tuesday!


AlexC
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
Trains on the Belair line will not start on Sunday according to the 5:30pm ABC News this evening.

The reason is stated to be signalling failures (not working as intended is a failure I guess).

The delay was stated to be a few days.
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Thanks for that 62430. Fantastic photos.
Looks like it was a case of right place at the right time for you.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
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62430
There is a double light Up signal leaving Mortdale Maintenance Depot located on the RHS of its track, and has two arrows pointing to the track to which it belongs.

At Coniston, a train from Unanderra could see the green light for a train from Port Kembla before it saw its own red light.

Needless to say, a Unanderra train read the wrong green signal as its own, before going around the curve a bit and derailing at speed on the catchpoint just beyond its own red signal.

The signal from Port Kembla has since been fitted with vertical shades so that it cannot be seen from the Unanderra line.

An up signal going north on the Bankstown leg of the triangle approaching Regent's Park has vertical shades so that its lights cannot be seen from the line from Sefton Park. This signal learned from the Coniston accident.

Adelaide signal 515 (pictured) might usefully be fitted with shades too.

PS. Does the extensive grafitti extend the life of the wooden fence in the background ?
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Around 8am Friday morning (12 July), the new signals on Belair line around Goodwood & Millswood are illuminated and, superficially at least, look ready for business.  The up and down starter signals inside the Millswood loop are both turned at 90 degrees to the track (but are also lit) and there are Stop boards inside the loop.

Obviously nobody has told Pacific-National about this, because around 07.50, the Melbourne-bound Overland came along and dutifully pulled up at the red signal no. 515 (down starting signal for main line at Millswood loop).  This signal is positioned on west side of the BG line and could conceivably apply to the SG.  Five minutes delay ensued, presumably while driver sought permission to pass a red Absolute signal!

Can't be too critical about the driver here - if you were driving a train and came to a red signal you were not expecting, would you pull up the train and ask permission, or sail on past thinking "she'll be right".  Lets hope that freight trains don't do the same, otherwise some big delays likely at Cross Road and Leader St LX's

It will be touch and go, but in principle they could run test trains to Belair on Friday (maybe late at night in case some malfunction with LX etc), do some driver familiarisation runs on Saturday, then start the public service on Sunday.   As long as nothing goes wrong . . .
1S47

Is it not the case that
* BG TA signals are "single light"
* SG ARTC signals are "double light"
and that therefore one can tell the difference between them?
  defman70 Train Controller

Is it not the case that
* BG TA signals are "single light"
* SG ARTC signals are "double light"
and that therefore one can tell the difference between them?
"awsgc24"

That Isn't the point. As a driver, if you see an unclear signal indication, you stop! It's called covering your bottom!
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Is it not the case that
* BG TA signals are "single light"
* SG ARTC signals are "double light"
and that therefore one can tell the difference between them?
awsgc24

No.

BG TA signal heads have multiple 2/3 lights

SG ARTC signals are searchlight, single light, but more recently LED multi light heads are used.

The signal in question 515 is on the "wrong" side of the BG line it controls and to the left of a driver on the adjacent SG track.

The footings for gantries to locate 515 and 516 at the left hand side of the BG tracks they control are ready but the gantries are not erected (yet).

The driver of the OL took the right action.

Ian
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
It has a number. It is illuminated. It is red. It doesn't indicate whether it is absolute or permissive (either by plate or marker light) and is on the LH side of the ARTC Line. In the same position as the PN driver, I'd have stopped my train as there is every likelihood that it was for me, especially given that single head, 3 colour lights on the SG line are used at Wayville, Formerly at Goodwood Junction, Hawthorn, Eden Hills and Glenalta, not to mention at the Port Rd bridge.

ARTC have been replacing searchlight signal for years now with new three position signal heads, progressively. The Double 3 positions or searchlights are used where a medium speed aspect is required, such as protecting points, or on approach to a loop. As it is a speed based, not route based system, the upper signal is for normal speed and/or non diverging aspect, whilst the lower is used for a medium speed/diverging aspect.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Can you imagine what went through the driver's mind.

"Oh tish, I should have read the Weekly Notice!"
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
A 6 car Jumbo set are scheduled to do a Belair test trip this morning (Saturday), departing Adelaide at 10am.

Wayne
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

A 6 car Jumbo set are scheduled to do a Belair test trip this morning (Saturday), departing Adelaide at 10am.

Wayne
hosk1956

What a pity it isn't 1/04/2013!
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Hosk1956, I saw a 6 car jumbo set pull into the ARS about 20 mins ago. Not sure, but it may be the consist you're talking about. Haven't seen it split up or pull out to do any scheduled runs on the OH or Gawler lines as is usually the case when I see 6 car jumbos or poxboxes pull in around the peak period.
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
What a pity it isn't 1/04/2013!
"steam4ian"


Whatever. Smile
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Jumbo set 2104, 2003, 2010, 2114, 2117 and 2008 are heading out of ARS and onto Belair line right in front of me as I post this. Looks like you were spot on hosk1956, just a bit later than 1000 hrs.
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
Jumbo set 2104, 2003, 2010, 2114, 2117 and 2008 are heading out of ARS and onto Belair line right in front of me as I post this. Looks like you were spot on hosk1956, just a bit later than 1000 hrs.
"SAR520SMBH"



Smile

And my latest information is that services will resume tomorrow (Sunday) subject to a successful test, railcars have been scheduled for a re start but we will see on that one.

Smile
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
Smile

And my latest information is that services will resume tomorrow (Sunday) subject to a successful test, railcars have been scheduled for a re start but we will see on that one.

Smile
hosk1956
I guess as long as they run from first service Monday no one apart from us will really care Smile - the delay is said to be days not months.

The weather in the latter part of last week didn't help much - the wind did a bit of damage at my house and the rain was torrential two days in a row.

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