Goodwood Junction Underpass

 
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Well done Wayne.

Ian

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  wogman Station Staff

Location: One good foam away from Hawthorn station.
Jumbo set 2104, 2003, 2010, 2114, 2117 and 2008 are heading out of ARS and onto Belair line right in front of me as I post this. Looks like you were spot on hosk1956, just a bit later than 1000 hrs.
SAR520SMBH
Went through (didn't stop Wink) Hawthorn about 1050 then back again about 1155. I think I heard it again after that but I didn't see it. Looked like it was travelling at a nice clip. It's the biggest suburban train I've seen on the line.
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Jumbos back at ARS at 1350 hrs.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Surprised Jumbos were used on the Belair line, thought they were banned on this line?
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Surprised Jumbos were used on the Belair line, thought they were banned on this line?
greasyrhys

Probably because it wasn't used for passenger service
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
Surprised Jumbos were used on the Belair line, thought they were banned on this line?
greasyrhys
I reckon you will find they were only used to knock all the crud of the rails in one big go, throw the heavy's at it, keeping a timetable and fuel economy weren't issues to be worried about.
As off 4 pm tonight, services were still going to resume tomorrow, if I wasn't working I'd go for a train ride.
And Ian, there are some on here who think they are in the know, there are others who are in the know, the hard part is sorting the bull sitters from the rest.

Wayne
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I reckon you will find they were only used to knock all the crud of the rails in one big go, throw the heavy's at it, keeping a timetable and fuel economy weren't issues to be worried about.
As off 4 pm tonight, services were still going to resume tomorrow, if I wasn't working I'd go for a train ride.
And Ian, there are some on here who think they are in the know, there are others who are in the know, the hard part is sorting the bull sitters from the rest.

Wayne
"hosk1956"

Yet, Channel 9 news tonight reported that the return of services had been suspended "indefinitely" due signalling faults!
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
what is "crud"?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
what is "crud"?
"Heath Loxton"


It's in the dictonary
a deposit or coating of refuse or of an impure or alien substance; muck.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
what is "crud"?
Heath Loxton
Oh My God Heath, you are on a computer are you not that has internet connection get onto Google and type in the word CRUD in the search box then hit enter on you key board. Your computer will do more than just let you access this site and others if you use it as a tool. It is not rocket science really. This applies to any words etc that you cannot understand use Google or similar and do a search for the meanings. You may get more than one but in this instance what Pressman has told you is it.
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
what is "crud"?
Heath Loxton
Here you go Heath

http://bit.ly/1aBIqtT
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
God knows how we are going to explain SMEG to him if he asks Tonsley213. Laughing
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
God knows how we are going to explain SMEG to him if he asks Tonsley213. Laughing
"David Peters"


Just direct him to the "Red Dwarf" web site Laughing
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
God knows how we are going to explain SMEG to him if he asks Tonsley213. Laughing
David Peters
LMAO............Oh bugger, he'll be asking what that is as well.

Re the signalling issue? I can only say that when I left this afternoon it was all go, watch this space tomorrow morning and we will all know, I hope, having got one movement correct I'll be upset if I have this one wrong.

Wayne
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
LMAO............Oh bugger, he'll be asking what that is as well.

Re the signalling issue? I can only say that when I left this afternoon it was all go, watch this space tomorrow morning and we will all know, I hope, having got one movement correct I'll be upset if I have this one wrong.

Wayne
hosk1956
We'll all be around for a beer if your are wrong, Wayne! Smile
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Wayne

Knowing how some foam about "Jumbos" I thought you were having a leg pull.

Joke was on me! EmbarassedLaughing
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
No.

BG TA signal heads have multiple 2/3 lights

SG ARTC signals are searchlight, single light, but more recently LED multi light heads are used.

The signal in question 515 is on the "wrong" side of the BG line it controls and to the left of a driver on the adjacent SG track.

The footings for gantries to locate 515 and 516 at the left hand side of the BG tracks they control are ready but the gantries are not erected (yet).

The driver of the OL took the right action.

Ian
steam4ian

To be more precise, a little rephrasing is in order:

* BG TA__ signals show one main lamp_ lit at a time, not counting junction feathers, shunt lamps, and route indicators.
* SG ARTC signals show two main lamps lit at a time, not counting shunt lamps.

Of course, if in doubt, stop, but surely if the signals are confusing, this should be reported to whoever it is that one reports these things to.

This compares with the accident at Coniston where the correct and incorrect signals could show the same lamps.

It is not known if anyone reported the confusing signals at Coniston BEFORE the accident occurred? It was after all it seems perhaps to have been maybe "an accident waiting to happen."
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

To be more precise, a little rephrasing is in order:

* BG TA__ signals show one main lamp_ lit at a time, not counting junction feathers, shunt lamps, and route indicators.
* SG ARTC signals show two main lamps lit at a time, not counting shunt lamps.

Of course, if in doubt, stop, but surely if the signals are confusing, this should be reported to whoever it is that one reports these things to.

This compares with the accident at Coniston where the correct and incorrect signals could show the same lamps.

It is not known if anyone reported the confusing signals at Coniston BEFORE the accident occurred? It was after all it seems perhaps to have been maybe "an accident waiting to happen."
awsgc24

No! but not so far off this time.

In the wild ARTC signals sometimes only show one lamp supplemented by a reflective marker for permissive or absolute offset to the right or directly below as for former SAR practice. In VR territory the offset can be either side.

BG TA show absolute or permissive by means of a white plate with A or P on it also in line or offset.

Ian
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
We'll all be around for a beer if your are wrong, Wayne! Smile
"kipioneer"



You'll have to wait for that beer, those that foretold the lack of service resumption were correct, but 2008,2117,2114 & 2010 will be doing more test trips today from around 10.00am again.
A service resumption date is unknown, by me at least!

Wayne
  trainznbuses Train Controller

Location: Seacliff Park, SA
Surprised Jumbos were used on the Belair line, thought they were banned on this line?
greasyrhys
Maybe one of the Rail Commissioner drivers can answer this statement but I would suggest that the 2000's are not banned as such, just more of a case that they have trouble maintaining a reliable timetabled service.

Testing = no timetable so no problems with that running times.

Also the aforementioned "Crud" removal would be better with 6 x 2000's running on the track Very Happy
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
Can confirm that 4 car 2000 run to Belair today. It has run a shuttle run between Wayville and Mitcham about 11:30am.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
Can confirm that 4 car 2000 run to Belair today. It has run a shuttle run between Wayville and Mitcham about 11:30am.
witsend
In the meantime I saw a blue bus pretending to be a train in Blackwood today.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Sounds like they are giving the signalling system a 'Wog Tune-up".

Thrash the life out of it and see if they can get it to work.

Not politically correct, but when have I ever been?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Plenty of orange jackets around near Leader Street around lunchtime today.
Workers unbolted and removed something (two items) from point WY5, not sure what they removed but it took three guys to lift each item and move them to the west side of the ARTC line and of course the obligitory fourth man to supervise!
(sorry wasn't close enough to provide more info)

Edit: WY5 is the Belair line point on the crossover just north of Leader St.
http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Adelaide/AD004.pdf
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
.........

Thrash the life out of it and see if they can get it to work.

Not politically correct, but when have I ever been?
"steam4ian"


Ian,
I use that system when commissioning new machinery for work .... Thrash the life out of it to see if I can break it! ....... then hand it over to the operators and wait for them to break it (they usually do have more success than I !!!) Laughing

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