No even I do not recommend chewing gum or blue tak.
Obviously wrongly, I assumed that in this day and age welded brackets would be used.

No even I do not recommend chewing gum or blue tak.
Obviously wrongly, I assumed that in this day and age welded brackets would be used.

Then how would they be removed at future Overhauls?

Then how would they be removed at future Overhauls?

While much of the coverings are lapped with boiler bands holding them secure, the bands are anchored with bolts or rivets.

With all due respect, is this Facebook page run by people involved in the restoration, or by enthusiasts who don't have any stake in the restoration beyond standing trackside?

Has there been any further updates on the boilers journey to Australia ?

I'd heard that is was coming in style. It was being shipped to Cherburg in France by rail where A brand new ship ( the biggest in the world, on it's maiden voyage) was carrying it as far as New York. Never made it that far unfortunately as the ship struck an iceberg and went down with the boiler in it's holds only two days out of new York. Word on the street though is that because theres been that many cock ups with it that orh bribed the company that operates the ship to sink so they could claim the insurance money, whichthey could then use to have another one built.

Keep it quiet though

I'd suggest enthusiastics given the recent postings, all of which have been deleted upon their authenticity being questioned with appropriate fact and evidence to support such fact being provided.

I'd be hard pressed to find any reason to believe any piece of information posted on the C38 Class FB group.

The N.S.W.G.R. C38 class FB page has tried its hardest in getting the correct information from the people looking after the Projects of 3801 and 3830. When they got the info, it was checked a few times before being posted on the page, and then that info was shot down by other people say it was false.

With the problems of 3801 and 3830, the page decided to stay right out of the problems. The N.S.W.G.R. C38 class FB page respect the hard working guys and OUT OF THAT RESPECT the page will refrain from making uninformed comments or presumptions.

The N.S.W.G.R. C38 class FB page has tried its hardest in getting the correct information from the people looking after the Projects of 3801 and 3830. When they got the info, it was checked a few times before being posted on the page, and then that info was shot down by other people say it was false.

With the problems of 3801 and 3830, the page decided to stay right out of the problems. The N.S.W.G.R. C38 class FB page respect the hard working guys and OUT OF THAT RESPECT the page will refrain from making uninformed comments or presumptions.

I think the sad reality that we all have to face up to is that there isn't going to be a new boiler for 3801. The government in charge of the funds aren't the same ones that started it all. After the monumental stuff ups with the first boiler the ones in charge won't want anything to do with it. It's a different world in the railways than it was in 2007. They are cutting jobs and costs everywhere and they unfortunately won't want to be seen spending millions on 70 year old steam trains that are only for joy rides. These people are on massive salaries and could care less about railway heritage, they need to be seen to be doing the job they were hired to do or they will be out of a job. Spending millions of dollars on a project that had already been a major balls up will loose them their jobs. Sad to say but I personally think it's not getting finished anytime soon. The boiler went back in late 2011 early 2012. Even with troubles with DB, it doesn't take that long to build a new one and ship it out.

I thought that the O'Farrell Government was committed to this project? , Am I right?

Kind Regards

, therefore one would expect that they would be liable for the cost of repairs/rebuild or even a new boiler, also they should be liable for the transport cost to get it here,

Not necessarily. Depends how the contract was written and managed. Things are complicated further especially if the people managing the project on the client side have signed off on the boiler as being fit for purpose before it left Germany.

That maybe the reason for the delay is DB know they are under no obligation to fix it. They took it back because they wanted to smooth over relations.

Maybe DB have finally gotten sick and tired of the whole exercise and the people in Australia managing it.

And the other poster is right, it doesn't take that long to fab up a new boiler based upon lessons learnt previously.

The key aspect of this is definitely as you put it based on contract & managed. The other part is being fit for purpose, & on that score from what I have read that is where the boiler fails owing to it not being able to be correctly fitted to the frame. However, that then would come back to the fine points of the contract, dog with fleas behind ears & no hind legs, comes to the fore, there is a problem & no way to fix it.

Looks like there will need to be a reassessing of the spare 36cl boilers around the state & try to get the 3 pigs back into operation, as the only likely candidate that may see a 38cl run again may well be with 30, & the dog will have to sit naked somewhere to exhibit what might have been, & perhaps a plastic boiler to fill the casing.