Turnaround Time of Intermodal Services at Enfield and Dynon

 
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Can anyone tell me what is the usual turnround time of a standard intermodal service to strip, reload, service locos and do brake tests, prepping etc at Dynon/Enfield.


What is the minimum time you could safely and reliably do a turnaround.

thanks

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  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
It depends on if the forklift at North Dynon is still broken in half or not.....  LaughingLaughing
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
It depends on if the forklift at North Dynon is still broken in half or not.....  LaughingLaughing
"QSB6.7"

Fair cal!!!
  JNSymes Junior Train Controller

It depends on if the forklift at North Dynon is still broken in half or not..... LaughingLaughing
QSB6.7


Care to Explain?
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
Can anyone tell me what is the usual turnround time of a standard intermodal service to strip, reload, service locos and do brake tests, prepping etc at Dynon/Enfield.


What is the minimum time you could safely and reliably do a turnaround.

thanks
Trainplanner

A slight correction - Enfield is mostly a marshalling yard used by PN to store wagons and trainsets, as well as sign crew on/off and park locos.

PN intermodal trains come from/go to Chullora.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thanks Raichase
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Care to Explain?
JNSymes

One of the container handling forklifts in Nth Dynon broke in half.
Anyone have pics?
  JNSymes Junior Train Controller

One of the container handling forklifts in Nth Dynon broke in half.
Anyone have pics?
QSB6.7


Is it this one?

  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
That is the one!
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  BHPDash8 Station Master

Does anyone know the cause of the accident?
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
It looks as if fatigue cracks where the chassis is welded to the counterweight.
  K-Class Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Can anyone tell me what is the usual turnround time of a standard intermodal service to strip, reload, service locos and do brake tests, prepping etc at Dynon/Enfield.


What is the minimum time you could safely and reliably do a turnaround.

thanks
Trainplanner

Not sure what the turn around times are in Melbourne or Sydney but here are some examples for Port Flat Yard in Adelaide.

Aurizon's MP1/PM1 services are scheduled between 1.75 and 3.5 hours most days. For this service the locos need to change ends, crew car and fuel tender added/removed, and some containers are added and removed.

PN's MA3/AM3 services are scheduled 8 to 13 hours. For this service all containers are removed and the train is reloaded. Locos change ends and refueled.

Matt
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thanks Matt
  BFCYU Chief Train Controller

Location: Sydney "Sutherland Shire"
Hi Trainplanner;

As Raichase mentioned Chullora is the P/N Intermodal Yard.
Maybe any R/P members may know the turnaround times there.

Till around 2005;
I was Port Botany. (yard)

Most trains for P/N or Patrick's Rail were trip trains. (local work to load/unload local & intra or interstate container trains)

There used to be an exception with the Brisbane-Sydney-Brisbane train.

A local crew came over with it from Chullora, (early hours of the morning)
and most days was out of Port Botany and Botany Yard around 8-9am.

It used to be 4-6 hour turnaround. (stripped of the containers, reloaded and train examined)

The local P/N crew used to then take it back to Brisbane via Chullora.

Trip trains (till around 2005 with assistance from ground crews & shunting locomotives/crew)
could be a turnaround from as little as 40 minutes;
where their train was uncoupled in the sidings and then the locomotive coupled up to new wagon/container set
and train/brake certificates supplied etc,

but most local trip trains turnaround was 2-3 hours, some unfortunately even much longer time frame,
because of the ports stevedores themselves and other hold ups or requirements.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Many thanks BFCYU.  Very helpful.
  BFCYU Chief Train Controller

Location: Sydney "Sutherland Shire"
That's fine Trainplanner;

I have been out of the rail industry for nearly 9 years now. (redundancy).

At my previous employer at Pacific National (and NSW FreightCorp)
we used to a have log in web site (internal intra net)
to view the working timetables.

After I left P/N, I logged (joined) into ARTC website to view the timetables etc
I did let it lapse a few years ago and have not been available to view it since then.

Once You "joined up" and logged into their site;
I am pretty sure they also had the timetables of the freight trains.
(even though, laugh! they never really run to those schedules !! )

By looking at the prefix and number of the train
you can assume the turnaround times.

So; if no one else could help You with your question in the rail industry or on Railpage Forums
this could be one way of finding out.

Regards.
BFCYU.

PS: Most long freight trains when needing a "FULL" brake/train examination are approx. 60-90 minutes.
It used to be 40 minutes at Botany Yard for a 900 metre length freight train.
(ie the length of the Botany Sidings unless the train examination was done on the main line)
but most intermodal freight trains can be upto 1500 metres in length, out of Chullora. (I think)

Loco prep and refuel could be around the same 1-2 hours. (depending on amount of locomotives)
Again though: I have been out of the rail industry for nearly 9 years and things may have changed.
Just before I left the rail industry, even the "full" train examinations certificates guidelines was modified
to let trains run back and forward with the same original certificate if the train consist was not altered.

Meaning a "train driver or assistant can do a modified certificate of examination and "roll by" at arrival & or departure.

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