Tonsley Upgrade Thread

 
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
Trains seen using the line today.
Tonsley213

At what time?  Presumably 30/31xx's as branch is not yet energised. See Being Switched On Notice with date of 2 May.

Alex C

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  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
At what time? Presumably 30/31xx's as branch is not yet energised. See Being Switched On Notice with date of 2 May.

Alex C
62430

This was at approximately 5PM and it was a 2 car 3000 or 3100 set I didn't get a very good look
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
This was at approximately 5PM and it was a 2 car 3000 or 3100 set I didn't get a very good look
Tonsley213

Around 3PM final inspection seemed to be completed.  The same test train could have gone to Tonsley then proceeded to Brighton after reversing at Wayville or ARS.

Alex C
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

This mornings Paraliser says Tonsley  services start "this Monday"  LoL
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
This mornings Paraliser says Tonsley services start "this Monday" LoL
steam4ian

That's the second biggest LOL after the member elect, still to do precisely zero work, in Kaurna guaranteed expresses running 'under his direction' to AdMet no less by Wednesday.... Not going to happen buddy, I called him out on this well before the election and he assured me and many others that it would happen.

Someone that understands the real issues 1 : politician 0 - an unsurprising score line around here I am sure.
  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
Saw a train @ Tonsley @ ~1:15pm today
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
Saw a train @ Tonsley @ ~1:15pm today
mclaren2007

During a return trip on the Seaford line in the middle of the day on Monday, we passed an empty DEMU (3113/3114 I think) once in each direction between Ascot Park and the city.   Presumably a test / driver training train for the Tonsley line (admittedly I did not actually see it on the branch).
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
During a return trip on the Seaford line in the middle of the day on Monday, we passed an empty DEMU (3113/3114 I think) once in each direction between Ascot Park and the city. Presumably a test / driver training train for the Tonsley line (admittedly I did not actually see it on the branch).
1S47

Today about 1315 a 3100 crossed Celtic Ave heading N.

Alex C
  Milkomeda Chief Train Controller

Spoke to a train driver today he told me he was scheduled for a run on the Tonsley Line tonight so yes drivers are being trained for the line now.
  4BJ Chief Commissioner

Location: Backside almost trackside at Hawthorn near Mitcham
As you would be aware by now, Tonsley services are back.  I did the first train on Monday made up of 3005+3003 which departed Platform 1 at Adelaide at 06:42.  The return movement arrived at Platform 1 on time at 07:32.
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
Has a spark been tested down the line and back?
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
Some of you may remember that a while back I posted about my uncle claiming he had heard an electric train on the Tonsley branch (which I didn't believe), well today I have photo graphic evidence of 4006 on the branch at a 2pm today (18-07-14).

Here is the series of Photos,

@Clovelly Park





@Mitchell Park





Hint: Zoom in
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Hint: Zoom in
Tonsley213

Hint, hint, please include the photos.
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
I have tried 5 different times to post the photos to this website, this is my last try.


Some of you may remember that a while back I posted about my uncle claiming he had heard an electric train on the Tonsley branch (which I didn't believe), well today I have photo graphic evidence of 4006 on the branch at a 2pm today (18-07-14).

Here is the series of Photos,

@ Clovelly Park Station

https://flic.kr/p/onrWkB

https://flic.kr/p/o5XdJC

@Mitchell Park

https://flic.kr/p/onkS7W

https://flic.kr/p/o5SPb1

https://flic.kr/p/o5SELN
Hint: Zoom in

https://flic.kr/p/o5SMjr

https://flic.kr/p/o5TQ4F
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Well done with the photos, nice to finally see an electric on the Tonsley line.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

A "Test Train". There has been very little opportunity for driver familiarisation with the EMUs on the Tonsley line.

Driver comment please.
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
I've heard a rumour (from a source not normally associated with false rumours) that with the opening of the Tonsley development, Clovelly Park Station will be renamed Tonsley and Tonsley will be named Sturt.
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
The curtailed Seaford service over the past couple of weeks has seen A-Citys in service on the Tonsley branch.  Here is a photo of 4011 today at Mitchell Park en route to Tonsley.

Alex C

  mm42 Chief Train Controller

It would be great to start on a "Stage 1" bus-train interchange at Tonsley station.  If peak hour services such as the G20 from Flagstaff Hill and the T722 from Reynella instead became feeder buses at Tonsley, it would reduce bus operating costs and provide many passengers with a faster and more comfortable trip.   Peak hour travel time from Tonsley to the city are 30-38 minutes by express bus, compared to a stopping-all-stations train at 21 minutes.  The train may save a few minutes more if the faster accelleration of electrics were factored into the timetable, and TSR's fixed up.

A key to this would be a well-designed bus-rail interchange that minimises walking and crossing roads (unlike the previous plan).  Between the end of Tonsley station and Sturt Road is an area on the current carpark and an unused section of rail line that according to Google Earth is 75 m long and 25 m wide. This would be more than adequate for several bus bays.  Unfortunately the State budget forshadowed for the next few years doesn't even include a couple of million for a such a facility.
  DrJames Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA
It would be great to start on a "Stage 1" bus-train interchange at Tonsley station. If peak hour services such as the G20 from Flagstaff Hill and the T722 from Reynella instead became feeder buses at Tonsley, it would reduce bus operating costs and provide many passengers with a faster and more comfortable trip. Peak hour travel time from Tonsley to the city are 30-38 minutes by express bus, compared to a stopping-all-stations train at 21 minutes. The train may save a few minutes more if the faster accelleration of electrics were factored into the timetable, and TSR's fixed up.

A key to this would be a well-designed bus-rail interchange that minimises walking and crossing roads (unlike the previous plan). Between the end of Tonsley station and Sturt Road is an area on the current carpark and an unused section of rail line that according to Google Earth is 75 m long and 25 m wide. This would be more than adequate for several bus bays. Unfortunately the State budget forshadowed for the next few years doesn't even include a couple of million for a such a facility.
mm42


The frequency would need to be extremely high - I'm not sure how frequently you could run a Tonsley service but in peak hour 10 minutes would be the maximum IMHO before you start having very unhappy punters.  

Also, I'm not sure about the T722/722X, but on the T721/721X the majority of passengers have usually alighted by the time the bus stops outside the GPO - meaning that a lot of people would be adding at least a 12 minute walk from ARS to their journey if their service was changed to a train.  Now personally I wouldn't mind that if it meant I caught a train to work, but this might upset a few people if they've already had to change modes at Tonsley ("why can't the bus just go straight into the city anymore?").  The last thing that is needed is to give people another incentive to go back to their cars.

In an ideal world, we would have an underground city loop train that includes a stop in Vic Sq, and the Tonsley line would be extended through Aberfoyle/Happy Valley through to Woodcroft.  Then you could have frequent bus services from the outer south drop passengers at Woodcroft for the train into town - I can dream, can't I? Smile
  mm42 Chief Train Controller

Half hourly all day service being introduced to Tonsley on Feb 16th to coincide with the new tertiary education term.

http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Planned-Disruptions/Improved-frequency-on-Tonsley-trains-plus-changes-to-outer-south-buses-from-16-February

How is patronage now ?  Are many of the workings now electrics ?
  ARG706 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA
Have all these electrics still got the audio graffiti (please mind the gap) installed? I heard something about it not being programmed into at least one of the electric sets.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

How is patronage now ?  Are many of the workings now electrics ?
mm42
The new Park and Ride is close to full every day and there's a heavy stream of traffic rolling out of the Tonsley Park complex (the location of said P&R for the Clovelly Park station) after each train arrives in the afternoon.

4013 was on a Tonsley service in the middle of the day on Friday.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Have all these electrics still got the audio graffiti (please mind the gap) installed? I heard something about it not being programmed into at least one of the electric sets.
ARG706
They should be able to remove it. I was on a DEMU a couple of weeks ago where the audio system was not working (putting out bursts of fuzz, like the DEMUs' original sound system) and everybody managed to avoid suffering a gruesome death after falling into the yawning chasm.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

The timetable is a significant improvement with last train leaving Tonsley at 1909 which should cater for many students.

It would be good if there was an interconnecting minibus to Woodlands Park after that time.

Still 47 mins from Seaford during the day and 39 for the limited express.

Hopefully times can be reduced when a full EMU service is available as they are not operating at their potential (apart form 25 kV that is)

Ian

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