The pre-sell out deal is becoming more regular.
The thing is how long does it take before a second run occurs? If the 422's are anything to go by it would be quite some time.
Nice Modified T !
Some valid points with Eureka and Trainorama taking so long to produce models but I think Auscision have a good track record of producing models,just look at their website and see how much product they have produced over the last 5 years.
I do not understand why people require Auscision to put posts on their blog,it takes more time to update a website where as a facebook post takes very little time and that's why they do it that way.
You do not need to be on facebook to see the posts,when you go on their website simply click on the FB icon rather than the blog icon.. simple.
I have no problem paying in full or placing deposits with Auscision in particular as they usually do not take orders until they have a tooling sample which assures me the project will go ahead.
Eureka is a different story,very little communication from them and lots of future projects but not many tooling samples ect.
As for tying money up with Auscision you do not have to pay in full,you do get a better price if you do but you can still pay a deposit so not so much money is tied up.
Auscision do not lose out by a percentage of the market being reluctant to pre-order only the people who do not pre-order lose out by missing out if a model sells out prior to arrival.
They will produce enough models to cover tooling and production costs and any extra they produce is a bonus to their bottom line.
High demand for a model that has sold out before arrival is also an incentive for them to do a re-run....another plus for them.
As I have said before pre-order if you do not want to miss out and if you do not and miss out its no ones problem but your own.
We may all want everything but can not afford it so I guess we just have to prioritise what we must have and what we can do without.
The most recent and up to date information will be on Auscisions face book page,as i said you dont have to be a member and its one click from the front website page how simple is that,the blog will just have duplicated info from the face book page.
I am sure if Auscision had a crystal ball they would give us an exact delivery date but they carnt thats why things like the 43 for example are expected in 2015 but thats as precise as they are willing to predict and your going to get from them a statement like "43 will be here 3rd Q 2015" If thats not good enough then dont pre-order and miss out.
I have changed orders with Auscision and never been charged,i think its more to deter time wasters from changing their mind and cancelling orders.
Personally i like to pay up front on a pre-order to get the discount if i can afford to buy at the time,if not i miss out.
Also no bill when they arrive and they get here when they get here no amount of complaining is going to speed up the delivery,its not like they deliberatley delay projects just to get complaints from customers about delays.
Looking at these photos, it dawned on me that these are going to need a 'voice'.
Advertised as 'DCC Ready with 21 Pin Socket' & 'Sound Ready', what decoder and sound files are people planning to install into them to bring them to life?
Obviously no 46's running at this time to record...
... Fortunately Auscision is a reputable trader wrt both product quality and business conduct/ethics so in this instance, hesitate not
No i think your missing my point you only need to look at the facebook link to see the most up to date info,they do not update the blog as often as it must take longer or why wouldnt they update the blog all the time to keep pace with their face book updates.
Whats the use of saying 3rd Q when there are so many things that can cause delays,i think they keep it safe and predict year until model actually goes into production.
As you say for you its a personal thing as to what you do, the same for everyone else. I have never said that Auscision delay projects in order to get complaints, likewise the same applies to all the importers, as I could not see them delaying models on purpose.
46 class and 422 class have also taken quite a few years to develop.
I do not believe Auscision would deliberately delay the XPT.
Why would they delay it and risk another manufacturer beating them to it.
Also if you ask them they will tell you what the major issues with the XPTs has been,i asked them and was told the following at Thornleigh show.
Besides the usual delays caused by current issues in all Chinese factory's.
Art work is quite complex and technical issues with strobe lights on locos.
Original tooling samples of the cars were missing fluting down sides of cars.
They also had to re-tool underside of cars for different coupler system to get around the average modelers curves.
Originally no interior detail was planned for the cars due to mirror finish of windows but they will now have interior detail.
2nd loco is now powered due to concerns about running set backwards causing derailments.
The price rise only affects new orders after the weekend of same Thornleigh show in may.
Price rise reflects the increased costs associated with interiors and extra powered loco and is a bonus to those that pre-ordered before price rise.
As far as i am aware the format of packs has never changed. 5 cars plus 2 locos that are both now powered.
I also doubt they would delay a project due to financial reasons,they dropped the T class on the market unannounced and have tooled quite a few other locos unannounced with no pre-orders until tooling was complete so i do not think they need deposits/pre-orders to finance projects unlike another manufacturer that appears to.
I agree Auscision are by far the best communicators to their customers.
I just look at what each manufacturer has produced over the last 5 years and Auscision have consistently produced models over this period, Austrains have done well but i give Trainorama and Eureka a big F.
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