Tram vs Beer Truck at Parkville

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Nasty crash at the Elliot Ave crossing between a tram and a beer truck:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-14/tram-derailed-by-a-beer-truck-at-parkville/6016756

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  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
That is hilarious.  Barrels do not look breached.



The tram does not look in great condition.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Tram was 205
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Anyone have a spare tap ?

Party time.
  mclaren2007 Assistant Commissioner

Location: recharging my myki
woops Shocked
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
This is a good reason why reintroducing Trams into Sydney isnt a good idea.
I was in Melbourne for a short period in 1954 and the differences between the two cities regarding the use of Trams was very apparent.
Most of the Sydney routes were on narrow,twisting and quite hilly roads of Sydney south of the Harbour with only a few areas where the Trams had their own clear way such as in Melbourne.
There were collisions then between vehicles and Trams back then so could you imagine what it would be like with todays bumper to bumper traffic if they reintroduced Trams?
I like Trams and wish they could be reintroduced but I dont think their very practicable as Sydney stands today.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

This accident appears to me to have been at the level crossing between road and reserved track tram line in Elliot Ave. This is controlled by traffic lights. I can only assume that somebody (tram or truck) has run a red light. This situation is nothing like your description of trams on roads in Sydney as the tram was already running on its own "clear way".
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
This accident appears to me to have been at the level crossing between road and reserved track tram line in Elliot Ave. This is controlled by traffic lights. I can only assume that somebody (tram or truck) has run a red light. This situation is nothing like your description of trams on roads in Sydney as the tram was already running on its own "clear way".
duttonbay
Could be a case where the truck was stuck In traffic gridlock, blocking the level tram crossing with Its tray, tram came a long and cleaned up the truck and both came off second best ?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Could be a case where the truck was stuck In traffic gridlock, blocking the level tram crossing with Its tray, tram came a long and cleaned up the truck and both came off second best ?
Nightfire
That's possible, although I would have thought that the tram might have been able to stop, or at least slow down enough to avoid being pushed 30 degrees off the line.

Given how quick the RP members tend to jump on the truck at other level crossing incidents, this one has simply generated hilarity. At a traffic light controlled intersection (which is what this effectively is) somebody has to break the law for an accident. Either running a red light, or blocking the intersection. I'm looking forward to hearing what actually caused this.
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

This is a good reason why reintroducing Trams into Sydney isnt a good idea.
I was in Melbourne for a short period in 1954 and the differences between the two cities regarding the use of Trams was very apparent.
Most of the Sydney routes were on narrow,twisting and quite hilly roads of Sydney south of the Harbour with only a few areas where the Trams had their own clear way such as in Melbourne.
There were collisions then between vehicles and Trams back then so could you imagine what it would be like with todays bumper to bumper traffic if they reintroduced Trams?
I like Trams and wish they could be reintroduced but I dont think their very practicable as Sydney stands today.
gordon_s1942
There were 828 collisions between trams and other vehicles in 2013 - more than 2 a day (source). Should we get rid of trams in Melbourne because cars keep running in to them?
  redhendriver Locomotive Driver

That is hilarious.  Barrels do not look breached.



The tram does not look in great condition.
8077
"Hilarious"...I don't think it would seem too funny to all those people involved...a slightly inappropriate comment...
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
There were 828 collisions between trams and other vehicles in 2013 - more than 2 a day (source). Should we get rid of trams in Melbourne because cars keep running in to them?
bramt
Certainly not, any city that currently has Trams and roads like Melbourne for them to operate on would be stupid to the extreme taking the Trams away.

My comment was based on trying to mix Trams and road traffic on streets that are even too narrow to allow the free flow of motor vehicles now which is an ever increasing problem in Sydney.

I note you infer thats its the cars that keep running into the trams and not the other way which doesnt surprise me at all after seeing the paint and skid marks up the concrete barriers on the city tram stops !!!!!!!!!!
  route14 Chief Commissioner

At that level crossing trams have to stop on the detector loop to get the white T light, so I don't think it was a case of a tram running into a stationary truck that illegally stopped across the crossing.
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

The loop for West Coburg trams is located some distance away from the road, so that usually they can get the T without needing to stop. Much like the crossings on the 96 & 109.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

So both platforms are now on the same side of the crossing.  Same layout as the Albert Park station on route 96.
  bramt Deputy Commissioner

Correct, 2 platforms on the Zoo side, which makes sense really. Almost no passengers would come from/go to the park side of the road. There's another stop (the next one toward the city) in the middle of the park for any park users...

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