Garratt coming to Southern States in 2015!

 
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Ah... Fun times stirring the pot...
sar520class

Your attempts are pretty lame, and only make you look like a complete idiot. Might be an idea to stop.

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  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I don't think the poster means "ever", they mean "at Southern Cross". I assume the train would "stage" at Dynon, and arrive into Southern Cross as diesel/cars/steam loco, thus allowing the train to choof off to the destination. Upon returning, the diesel would hook onto the rear of the train and lead the train to Dynon. I understand this is how Steamrail trains do things when the consist is too long and/or a double-header. Certainly it has been done multiple times in Sydney with a diesel piloting from Eveleigh to Sydney Terminal.
Raichase

Except that isn't what was posted, he simply said "steam trains don't run around anymore" which is just wrong. As for Spencer st, Steamrail regularly run around their trains there, and at platform 2 (the platform most likely to be used by the Garratt next year). The standard procedure is they run tender first from Newport, run around at the platform then depart funnel first on the scheduled tour. Couldn't get much simpler than that.

As for their not being enough space for the Garratt to fit between the buffers and the points, that's another story, and something I can't answer.

As for the train being too long for platform 2, that all depends on just how long the train is going to be.

At any rate, I didn't mean to cause an entire debate on such a trivial matter, and personally I can't wait to get my chance to see it in the flesh, and hopefully ride behind it.
  Fireman Dave Chief Commissioner

Location: Shh, I'm hiding
This thread makes me laugh. The ARHS ACT division has been running tours like this (as an accredited operator) for about 20 years. I suspect they have identified all the issues and will have resolved them well in advance of the tour.
  NSWGR 3827 Deputy Commissioner

Location: South of the Border
This thread makes me laugh. The ARHS ACT division has been running tours like this (as an accredited operator) for about 20 years. I suspect they have identified all the issues and will have resolved them well in advance of the tour.
Fireman Dave

This may be so, but it is not very often a Steam Locomotive makes an interstate trip to places which may not have seen a steam locomotive for a long time.  The logistics and amount of organisation involved before a tour such as the one proposed will be massive.
  Factory_Fill Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne VIC
Blog post updated overnight states it is due in Junee over the June long weekend next year.
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
It's been three months since the Garratt tour to Victoria/ South Australia has been announced.
Seeing as there has been a lack of advertising material for an event which supposedly when originally posted was 'a month or so' from having brochures and information published.


I'm wondering what's the go with the tour? I'm pretty keen to see and ride behind 6029 when it comes to Adelaide, so much so that I've invited some of my non-gunzel friends to join me… But seeing as little information has been released at this point I'm wondering if Steamrail has bitten off more than they could chew with this tour.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
You will notice, not unexpectedly, that there is no longer any mention on the ARHS (ACT) web site of 6029 coming to South Australia this year.
  ssaunders Chief Train Controller

Also, according to whispers in Victoria, the date to be moved back as well.

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  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Well, that's slightly disappointing. I was looking forward to seeing the Garratt in South Australia. It would be good to hear from someone from Steamrail / ARHS ACT about this tour as opposed to gunzle conjecture.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well, that's slightly disappointing. I was looking forward to seeing the Garratt in South Australia. It would be good to hear from someone from Steamrail / ARHS ACT about this tour as opposed to gunzle conjecture.
ARK95
If you want to know, try going to the source - email Steamrail and ask them.
I'd say money and costs might be limiting them, but better to check with them.

Regards,
David Head
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Something will be posted soon about the Vic/SA tour.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Something will be posted soon about the Vic/SA tour.
LowndesJ515

Please update us as soon as possible.
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Something will be posted soon about the Vic/SA tour.
LowndesJ515

Will that be before or after pigs take flight?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Will that be before or after pigs take flight?
ARK95
I hope LowndesJ515 meets you one day when he has *start mod edit* ahem, nothing whatsoever *end mod edit* in his hand. If he says something will be posted soon, it will be.

*edited due to perceived nastiness*
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I hope LowndesJ515 meets you one day when he has a shovel in his hand. If he says something will be posted soon, it will be.
Valvegear
Wow, that escalated quickly!

I must say it's really pathetic that you are resorting to making threats of violence towards someone who has an opinion which is disimilar to yours

I'm really sorry if it seems I am cynical but 'LowndesJ515' posted in this thread and on several places on Facebook stating that information would be 'a month or so away'. To most people that would imply information would be available in a reasonable time frame, it has nearly been 4 months since the initial announcement was made and I believe that's been a more than a reasonable time for information to be released.

I've been hearing a lot of conjecture from the gunzle community (some who know what they're talking about , some who don't) stating that the Garratt won't be coming to South Australia (some saying it could come to South Australia in several years, some saying it wont ever be coming to South Australia). I just want to a clear response as opposed to Gunzle smeg
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Somebody]Well, that's slightly disappointing. I was looking forward to seeing the Garratt in South Australia. It would be good to hear from someone from Steamrail / ARHS ACT about this tour as opposed to gunzle conjecture.ARK95



If you want to know, try going to the source - email Steamrail and ask them.
I'd say money and costs might be limiting them, but better to check with them.
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
If you want to know, try going to the source - email Steamrail and ask them.
I'd say money and costs might be limiting them, but better to check with them.
dthead
What makes you think I haven't. I've emailed Steamrail and am waiting a responce
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I thought my comment to ARK 95 about the "er nothing at all",was so obviously tongue-in-cheek that nobody would conceivably take it seriously. My apologies to the hyper-sensitive.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone


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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
OK - let's get back to basics.

What makes you think I haven't. I've emailed Steamrail and am waiting a response
"ARK95"
You need to understand that you have no right whatsoever to any prior information from Steamrail, or anyone else for that matter. When plans are firmly in place, any organizing body will put out enough information for the public to know when the event is taking place, how you get tickets, how much they cost, where the tour is going and so on. Until then, you, and all the rest of us, need to be patient.
LowndesJ515 has said that he will put up some information. You may not know him, but I do. He is an honourable man, and if he says he will do something, he will do it, unless prevented by circumstances beyond his control.

In addition, you may be aware that Steamrail has just suffered a serious fire. Your "need to know" will be about the least of Steamrail's priorities. You're low man on the totem pole, and I suggest you get used to it.
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
OK - let's get back to basics.

You need to understand that you have no right whatsoever to any prior information from Steamrail, or anyone else for that matter. When plans are firmly in place, any organizing body will put out enough information for the public to know when the event is taking place, how you get tickets, how much they cost, where the tour is going and so on. Until then, you, and all the rest of us, need to be patient.
LowndesJ515 has said that he will put up some information. You may not know him, but I do. He is an honourable man, and if he says he will do something, he will do it, unless prevented by circumstances beyond his control.

In addition, you may be aware that Steamrail has just suffered a serious fire. Your "need to know" will be about the least of Steamrail's priorities. You're low man on the totem pole, and I suggest you get used to it.
Valvegear

But in November LowndesJ515 posted Final touches are being put together as we speak but we are in a position now where we can launch the journey. Look out over the next month or so for Brochures and information

I took that to mean the publishing of information relating to the tour would be imminent. I guess I (and everyone else who was feeling excited about this tour) was wrong.

I'm really keen to ride behind the Garratt and see it make a stunning spectacle climbing towards Mt Lofty. But to say I'm feeling let down by the lack of information is an understatement.
You're right I'll just wait for information about this tour (although I won't hold my breath about it coming 'soon')
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I think we all are forgetting a pertinent fact. AD60 is NOT owned by steamrail, err ARHS ACT did all the work getting the loco running. Perhaps there are issues that are derailing the plan. It is not just Steamrail.

So why not settle down, no more posting as I have seen today and try the old waiting game. After all we were promised a reply, but not instantly. Patience guys.

Most people who know me cn confirm I have no involvment with any of these organisations. Yet like many here I'd love to see the AD60.

So how about it guys, you all want the same thing. So lets see what happens without any more agro.
  Dd893 Train Controller

Location: Castlemaine
Valvegear is right. A lot has happened over the past few weeks at Steamrail as we all have read.
Remember that the people organising trips like this, have a lot of hoops to jump thru to please multiple authorities and logistics to get right. Quite a few of them have full time jobs, usually shiftwork to contend with and are also volunteers, with families.
They will be trying their best to get everything organised before releasing a brochure or further info.

Cheers, Murray
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Valvegear is right. A lot has happened over the past few weeks at Steamrail as we all have read.
Remember that the people organising trips like this, have a lot of hoops to jump thru to please multiple authorities and logistics to get right. Quite a few of them have full time jobs, usually shiftwork to contend with and are also volunteers, with families.
They will be trying their best to get everything organised before releasing a brochure or further info.

Cheers, Murray
Dd893
Thank you Murray for this post, its spot on with all of life's other goings on.

Love how gunzels think it's their god given right to know information and that deadlines NEED to be met. It's comments like made from our good friend ARK95 that make me (and Steamrail, we have seen your email) think, why do we even bother. The tone is just outrageous, including the comments I've seen from this poster on FB. Yes we have actually held back on some information due to this poster, why should we post something that would get ripped apart by this person, we feel as if we are damned if we do and damned if we don't, so we don't post anything.

Information will be handed out soon, at the moment there are a couple of more important items at hand that both ARHS Canberra and Steamrail Victoria need to deal with. By the way, after the launch back in November, we studied some of the comments that came back in and decided to purely market the Garratt trips at families. Yes there was a lot of excitement about the loco coming over, It's an expensive loco to bring over and the gunzel market just isn't there to pay for the tour we feel. That is one of the reasons why there has been no information. The fact there there will be hardly any 'long haul' trips, mostly be day trips or an hour's shuttle, is another reason why there has been no information, they will all be relatively cheap aimed at families as stated. July is still a while away and well within the marketing brackets that we have set up.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Excellent answer from LowndesJ515. He said it better than I did.

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