Time has come for high-speed rail for Sydney-Melbourne: Maurice Newman

 

News article: Time has come for high-speed rail for Sydney-Melbourne: Maurice Newman

Business leader Maurice Newman has become the first corporate heavyweight to throw their weight behind a high-speed rail link between Sydney and Melbourne.

  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Business leader Maurice Newman has become the first corporate heavyweight to throw their weight behind a high-speed rail link between Sydney and Melbourne.

Dr Newman said the high-speed rail link was an “idea whose time had come” and it could be achieved using Japanese technology and capital.

Mr Newman, who heads the Prime Minister’s Business ­Advisory Council, said the journey from Sydney to Newcastle by rail was now slower than it was under steam.

A $110 billion high-speed rail link would tackle the “diseconomies of scale” in traffic-choked Sydney and Melbourne while providing a boost for regions along the route.
Time has come for high-speed rail for Sydney-Melbourne: Maurice Newman
Everyone in Australia knows the time has come except Abbott and the 1950's political party.  Oh, plus add to that the airlines and bus companies.

This country is being held back my some many with can;t or should not do attitudes.  Look at New Zealand.  Soon Australia will have the runt of a currency in the Pacific Region.  Been coming for a long time.

Stop talking about it Australia ans start doing it.

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  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone


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  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
One of the reasons why Australia never gets anywhere.  In life there are story tellers and story makers.

Australia only now talks about how things used to be.  You think about it.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

OH FOR GOODNESS SAKES, how many more times are they going to bring this up? They are NOT going to be built in Australia, no matter WHAT government is "governing". The very strong road lobby & air companies will see to that.

The person is from the prime minister's business council, so what bad news about the federal Liberals are the Liberals trying to disguise this time?
  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange
One of the reasons why Australia never gets anywhere.  In life there are story tellers and story makers.

Australia only now talks about how things used to be.  You think about it.
8077


If you want a real fast train service from Melbourne to Sydney and then you have to plan for it.

Melbourne to Sydney :

Distance : 960km
time:11 hrs and 23mins

Ave speed: 84.3338 kmh


What is need  is the following:

  1. Separate the freight trains from passengers train
  2. Fix the track so trains can lease do 200 to 340km/hr
  3. short term run trains like Vlocity trains (wheels need go from BG to SG) I hear top speed is 200km/hr
    with these three steps and train service at lease going average of

    130km/hr =7 hrs: 23mins  it takes for the trip
    140km/hr = 6hrs : 51mins it takes for the trip
    150km/hr = 6hrs : 24mins it takes for the trip
    160km/hr = 6hrs : 01mins it takes for the trip
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
It keeps coming up because there exists a genuine need for an alternativetransport option   between Sydney and Canberra and Melbourne.

That comes in the form of a high speed train.

The quicker people get onboard the quicker this country will
Move into the 21st century.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The only consideration for any such project is, "Will it win us the next election?"
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
One of the reasons why Australia never gets anywhere.  In life there are story tellers and story makers.

Australia only now talks about how things used to be.  You think about it.
8077
Could that be because there is nothing in the future to talk about beyond inactivity, recession, depression, unemployment and poverty for a hell of a lot of people.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

It keeps coming up because there exists a genuine need for an alternativetransport option   between Sydney and Canberra and Melbourne.

That comes in the form of a high speed train.

The quicker people get onboard the quicker this country will
Move into the 21st century.
freightgate
@Freightgate

We cannot even get the Albury Service up and running, hell all of Australia's cities Public Transport is below Par. Let me get this straight, State Governments, with the exception of NSW are bleating on about needing Federal money to complete projects such as the Melbourne Metro Link and yet Maurice Newman, wth the egging on of some State Pollies want the Federal Government to spend $110 Billion on a High Speed Rail Link? Are you joking?

Pie in the Sky merchants dream of this massive white elephant, whilst we in the real world, make their way to the airport and catch the bloody plane, and whats more do not require massive subsidies and Capital Spending to keep it going.


Michael
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Plans proposals always fall apart when It comes down to who's going to pay for It !

Some people go on about some cashed up Asian firms/agencies willing to put cash on the table, but the catch Is they want high value no risk availability payments, that the Australian Government simply can't afford !
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
@FreightGate

We cannot even get the Albury Service up and running, hell all of Australia's cities Public Transport is below Par. Let me get this straight, State Governments, with the exception of NSW are bleating on about needing Federal money to complete projects such as the Melbourne Metro Link and yet Maurice Newman, wth the egging on of some State Pollies want the Federal Government to spend $110 Billion on a High Speed Rail Link? Are you joking?

Pie in the Sky merchants dream of this massive white elephant, whilst we in the real world, make their way to the airport and catch the bloody plane, and whats more do not require massive subsidies and Capital Spending to keep it going.
mejhammers1


Look at who you have in charge. Come on, this is Australia!  What is required is an international player to come in and built the project soup to nuts and quality work at that.  Keep the Victorian and NSW Governments (especially Victoria) out of it. Victoria could not deliver a pizza with it comes to anything but a road.

Why would it be a massive white elephant?  What is there in place now to suggest this would be the case?  I believe the studies already completed which were commissioned under Gillard show otherwise but I am open to correction.

This country needs to grow up and get on with it.  I weep for the next generation.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
What is required is an international player to come in and built the project soup to nuts and quality work at that.  
bevans
What would make an International player even want to do this ?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Look at who you have in charge. Come on, this is Australia!  What is required is an international player to come in and built the project soup to nuts and quality work at that.  Keep the Victorian and NSW Governments (especially Victoria) out of it. Victoria could not deliver a pizza with it comes to anything but a road.

Why would it be a massive white elephant?  What is there in place now to suggest this would be the case?  I believe the studies already completed which were commissioned under Gillard show otherwise but I am open to correction.

This country needs to grow up and get on with it.  I weep for the next generation.
bevans
Yes Precisely. Instead of getting a major engineering giant, preferably German, they will have a consortium run by an ex pollie, who with very little technical expertise will try and build it on the cheap. The project will not deliver and they will have to fork out even more money to rectify it. And that is the problem especially in Victoria.

I just cannot see High Speed Rail happening in this country.

Michael

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