Vline is stupidly subsidising travel outside of Victoria

 
  tom9876543 Chief Train Controller

Hi,

I saw the thread about Vline possibly expanding to Wagga Wagga.
That got me thinking..... Vline today offers travel to Canberra.
I checked the Vline web site for a return ticket between Canberra and Albury.
That obviously is a journey completely outside of Victoria.
The Vline price was $84.
I then looked at Greyhound bus and how much it costs.
Greyhound charges $115 for return ticket between Canberra and Albury.

So Vline today is currently subsidising a journey that is completely outside Victoria, by approximately $30.
I think everyone would agree, that is extremely stupid.

Vline should match Greyhound (or another private company's) price, for any journey that is partially (or completely) outside of Victoria.

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  melbtrip Chief Commissioner

Location: Annoying Orange
Hi,

I saw the thread about Vline possibly expanding to Wagga Wagga.
That got me thinking..... Vline today offers travel to Canberra.
I checked the Vline web site for a return ticket between Canberra and Albury.
That obviously is a journey completely outside of Victoria.
The Vline price was $84.
I then looked at Greyhound bus and how much it costs.
Greyhound charges $115 for return ticket between Canberra and Albury.

So Vline today is currently subsidising a journey that is completely outside Victoria, by approximately $30.
I think everyone would agree, that is extremely stupid.

Vline should match Greyhound (or another private company's) price, for any journey that is partially (or completely) outside of Victoria.
tom9876543
V/Line does not control the fare structure- it the state government  that controls that fares for V/Line services.
  AzN_dj Chief Commissioner

Location: Along route 69
1. There are more operators than Greyhound, you just happened to pick the most expensive one for your comparison. Firefly does Melbourne to Sydney for $65 one-way. That's cheaper than your $84 example.
2. The buses are generally code-shared anyways. You might be paying V/line, but you're probably on a co-branded V/Line Firefly bus (that's the case for Adelaide at least).
3. The only way you are actually getting a subsidised fare is if you are on concession. That's it.

Your Canberra example: it's $58.20 ONE WAY for Full fare, no breaks. Your Greyhound fare between Melbourne and Sydney is only $95, and it's hop on-hop off, get on and off where you want. You're paying more for flexibility. As I said above, Firefly is $65 one-way Melb-Syd. A difference of $7 is not much at that level.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Daylink to Adelaide is a co-branded Firefly and V/line service that takes ticketing from both organisations - there's a lot of people who seem to get on and off at intermediate towns in both SA and Victoria. It's good if you have to travel at the last minute and can't find a cheap airfare.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Hi,

I saw the thread about Vline possibly expanding to Wagga Wagga.
That got me thinking..... Vline today offers travel to Canberra.
I checked the Vline web site for a return ticket between Canberra and Albury.
That obviously is a journey completely outside of Victoria.
The Vline price was $84.
I then looked at Greyhound bus and how much it costs.
Greyhound charges $115 for return ticket between Canberra and Albury.

So Vline today is currently subsidising a journey that is completely outside Victoria, by approximately $30.
I think everyone would agree, that is extremely stupid.

Vline should match Greyhound (or another private company's) price, for any journey that is partially (or completely) outside of Victoria.
tom9876543

I would also strongly advocate stricter forms of passport control at state borders.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I would also strongly advocate stricter forms of passport control at state borders.
bingley hall
Here Here! As an Economic Refugee from SA, now a Victorian Citizen I think it is far too easy for people from NSW and QLD to cross the border and make their homes down South. And don't start me on Taswegians.......
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thanks Don Dunstan.   It's exactly how this works and also applies to The Overland carrying V/Line "code share" passengers within Victoria.   By way of reference I have just posted on the V/Line to Wagga thread.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
In reference to the original post, there's also a taxpayer subsidised bus route that runs from Bairnsdale - Orbost - Cooma - Canberra. I almost caught it 10 days ago when I had to get to a conference at Thredbo in the Cooma hinterland, but I managed to blag a lift instead. I'm not sure if the heathens travelling north of the border on this service are subsidised by decent, law-abiding Victorian taxpayers.

I suspect there's also Victorian taxpayer subsidised buses from Portland and Hamilton that cross the border to the dreaded Crow-Eater town of Mt. Gambier. Shocked

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