Glenelg Line South

 
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
There was a very short lived line that ran from Moseley Street along the sandhills to Marino.   There was a temporary connection to the South Terrace line at Mosely Square in order to transfer some rolling stock.    This connection lasted as long as was necessary to fulfill this aim.

The actual railway lasted about a year, lack of custom and sand drifts taking their toll.

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  nm39 Chief Commissioner

Location: By a road taking pictures
Was one of these lines also connected to Brighton via the Sandhills? I believe a line existed between Glenelg and Brighton at sometime in the past but I don't know if it was goods or passenger. I'm sure someone on this forum will have the facts.
vinelander
A cairn exists at the corner of Brighton Rd and Broadway, South Brighton that says this is where the terminus is. Note that this is Broadway, South Brighton and NOT Broadway, Glenelg.
  ARG706 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA
I recall seeing this line on a map long ago, but didn't know it was this short lived. Been curious about it, but haven't really looked into it.

Thanks for the description. I know this thread has nothing to do with coal, but it reminds me a bit of the original Burwood colliery line south of Newcastle that ran along the coast and crossed a river to get to the colliery. Practically ran along the beach.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Imagine trying to build a railway line along the beach from Glenelg to Brighton now - the NIMBY's would scream blue murder.

Every city has its share of 19th century railway lines that failed almost immediately - Melbourne has the Rosstown Railway from Elsternwick to Carnegie and the famous Outer Circle.
  SAR526 Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
  • Goodwood Connection:  early 1920's.    Some work was undertaken but never completed.    It would have been a double track line from the Suburban lines to the Glenelg line.     Traces of this remained until relatively recently.
Are you referring here to a proposal to connect the Glenelg line directly to the SAR suburban system at Goodwood? Interesting. So there were traces of the work done; would that have involved curves from the main-line around to connect with the Glenelg line? It's interesting to contemplate what might have happened.
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don_dunstan

The original southern line had step down platforms to facilitate street loading. I remember the Goodwood station adjacent to Goodwood Road as a Scout hall. As Kipioneer has said, there were clear traces that connection to the Nairne line was contemplated, including a bridge over the SAR station subway. A large iron multi court basketball stadium stood over the right-of-way adjacent to the tram overpass in the post 1939-45 war period..

As it left from Adelaide Railway Station, the northern line had conventional high level platforms. The Thebarton platform, just after the junction at Mile End, was very close to that station and clearly visible until the goods yards and engine depot were demolished to make way for the ANR-GSR interstate terminal.  

As a small boy I, on one unforgettable day, played with the levers in the signal box at the abandoned Marion Road station while my aunt played tennis nearby. The platform still exists. Again as a boy I can remember the large disused Glenelg railway depot where later there were bowling greens which were closed to allow for the present deviation of Brighton Road into Tapleys Hill Road.

To put a time frame on my memories, I was six months old when the Glenelg services changed from broad gauge steam to an electric inter-urban tramway. I grew up with the Melbourne trains passing our back fence at Nairne, crossing the line to school with the Principal, my father, going home for a cooked meal at lunch-time as it was so close, and visiting Mr. Parry in the then stand-alone elevated signal box on the Adelaide side of the original station building to enjoy the winter warmth of the coal stove in the corner while I watched him pull the levers. The coal always seemed 'accidentally' to fall from the engine tenders close the box.

Now you know why, though no expert, I have grown up loving trains and trams. Tomorrow I am going on what will probably be my last 'Indian Pacific' trip to Broken Hill. I remember riding on the 'Tin Hare' from Parkes, the original Peterborough station, changing trains at Terowie and travelling in a comfortable sleeper in the last ever narrow-gauge Broken Hill express, hauled by a T class from Terowie to Cockburn and returning behind diesels, and numerous other SAR and VR (during my 28 years of residence in Melbourne) experiences.

Please, if you wish to comment on anything in the last two paragraphs of irrelevancies to the subject here, start a new thread. Don't hi-jack this one.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
Was one of these lines also connected to Brighton via the Sandhills? I believe a line existed between Glenelg and Brighton at sometime in the past but I don't know if it was goods or passenger. I'm sure someone on this forum will have the facts.
A cairn exists at the corner of Brighton Rd and Broadway, South Brighton that says this is where the terminus is. Note that this is Broadway, South Brighton and NOT Broadway, Glenelg.
nm39
I suspect this is the terminus of the Brighton Road Horse Tram which lasted until 1914 when the Willunga line was opened, rather than the Glenelg - Marino Railway.

I will have to check out the plaque.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
As a small boy I, on one unforgettable day, played with the levers in the signal box at the abandoned Marion Road station while my aunt played tennis nearby. The platform still exists.
SAR526
I used to drive past that platform on my way to work, it's wonderful that some of those remnants got preserved. Thank-you for the interesting story.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Imagine trying to build a railway line along the beach from Glenelg to Brighton now - the NIMBY's would scream blue murder.

Every city has its share of 19th century railway lines that failed almost immediately - Melbourne has the Rosstown Railway from Elsternwick to Carnegie and the famous Outer Circle.
don_dunstan
NIMBYs?

What do we need beaches for anyway?

We should use the beach for a new six lane freeway which would avoid the expensive South Road upgrades.

...and use child labour to build it Razz
  62430 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Metro Adelaide
A cairn exists at the corner of Brighton Rd and Broadway, South Brighton that says this is where the terminus is. Note that this is Broadway, South Brighton and NOT Broadway, Glenelg.

I suspect this is the terminus of the Brighton Road Horse Tram which lasted until 1914 when the Willunga line was opened, rather than the Glenelg - Marino Railway.

I will have to check out the plaque.
kipioneer

I happened to be in Brighton yesterday looking at the Seaford line overhead and made the detour to have a look at the plaque.  Here is a photo.  Although I knew about the horse tram I had not heard of the cairn until your post.



Alex C
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

I have came across a facebook page site ( darian smith pioneer aerial photographer ) which has old photos of Adelaide and SA country from the air .

There is 3 photos of the Morphettville racecourse area showing the two rail lines meet with trains .

also photos of Morphett vale railway station and also photo's of a crossing loop with train going through the royal Adelaide golf course .

50 plus photos on the site so far

https://www.facebook.com/Darian-Smith-Pioneer-Aerial-Photographer-414966618692986/timeline


Morphettville race course station

https://www.facebook.com/414966618692986/photos/pcb.424986127691035/424985807691067/?type=3&theater


Royal Adelaide golf course crossing loop

https://www.facebook.com/414966618692986/photos/pcb.421585541364427/421585201364461/?type=3&theater


Morphett vale railway station

https://www.facebook.com/414966618692986/photos/a.414972415359073.1073741828.414966618692986/418319575024357/?type=3&theater
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
What were the names of the stations along the old Glenelg rail line (North)?
Are any besides the Marion Road one remaining?
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
What were the names of the stations along the old Glenelg rail line (North)?
Are any besides the Marion Road one remaining?
Heath Loxton
Thebarton which was adjacent to the present Mile End.
Hilton on the south side of Hilton Road - now Sir Donald Bradman Drive
Richmond on the north side of West Beach Road - now Richmond Road
Kurralta Park about half way between Richmond and
Plympton the sole remaining platform on the east side of Marion Road
Campden on the east side of Morphett Road
Novar Gardens west of River Sturt
Macdonalds east of Alison Street
St Leonards between Brighton and Tapleys Hill Roads
Glenelg various places along Colley Tce

The South Terrace line had stations at
Victoria Square (south of the square)
South Terrace more or less where the South Terrace tram stop is.
Wayville where the Greenhill Road tram stop is (not the present Wayville stop)
Goodwood Road on the west side of the road
Forestville
Black Forest east of South Road
Hayhurst east of Beckman Street (tram Beckman Street stop)
South Plympton between Marion and Cross Roads
Morphettville by the race course
Hemsdale
Millers Corner
Glenelg Moseley Square where the present terminus is.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

The Thebarton line station building at Glenelg is still extant; it is the two story building on Anzac Highway between Sturt and Mary Streets
The group of matching houses on the north side of Anzac Hwy just west of Brighton Road are probably railway houses. The bowling club occupies land that once had the loco and carriage sheds.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
The Thebarton line station building at Glenelg is still extant; it is the two story building on Anzac Highway between Sturt and Mary Streets
The group of matching houses on the north side of Anzac Hwy just west of Brighton Road are probably railway houses. The bowling club occupies land that once had the loco and carriage sheds.
"steam4ian"

I thought that was the case Ian.
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
The Thebarton line station building at Glenelg is still extant; it is the two story building on Anzac Highway between Sturt and Mary Streets
"steam4ian"

If your referring to the building marked as "Berkshire Court", then it is no more. From Google Earth, it looks like it was demolished in the first week of 2015.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
What a shame - another piece of Adelaide history lost.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

The Thebarton line station building at Glenelg is still extant; it is the two story building on Anzac Highway between Sturt and Mary Streets
"steam4ian"

If your referring to the building marked as "Berkshire Court", then it is no more. From Google Earth, it looks like it was demolished in the first week of 2015.
"Alco_Haulic"

Slipped under the radar, that one. Demolish in the holidays when nobody is looking.

Any how, if you want to see it look on Google Maps before they update.

I do the rat run through the Bay down Partridge St and Tapleys Hill Road to avoid Brighton Road when travelling that way. I am too busy at the roundabout on Anzac Hwy to look for the building.
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
The Thebarton line station building at Glenelg is still extant; it is the two story building on Anzac Highway between Sturt and Mary Streets

If your referring to the building marked as "Berkshire Court", then it is no more. From Google Earth, it looks like it was demolished in the first week of 2015.

Slipped under the radar, that one. Demolish in the holidays when nobody is looking.

Any how, if you want to see it look on Google Maps before they update.

I do the rat run through the Bay down Partridge St and Tapleys Hill Road to avoid Brighton Road when travelling that way. I am too busy at the roundabout on Anzac Hwy to look for the building.
steam4ian
LOL, I'm usually too busy watching out for idiots trying to get stuck under my bull bar or trailer when I'm driving down Brighton Rd!

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