New North East trains won't come until further consultation with no set date

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 01 Jun 2016 16:44
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I know we have talked about these issues on the NE Line to Albury but the government does not seem to think prioritising the remediation of these many issues is a priority.  The minister has been at the helm now for 2 years and nothing really has changed with the exception of some announcements about future announcements and more carriages.

Nothing from the minister about how she has spoken to Vline management who have in turned agreed to do things differently, improving processes and having a different approach to services.  it is shameful.

What is the definition of insanity?  Doing the same thing over and over and over again but expecting a different result.

New North East trains won't come until further consultation with no set date

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  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
I know we have talked about these issues on the NE Line to Albury but the government does not seem to think prioritising the remediation of these many issues is a priority.  The minister has been at the helm now for 2 years and nothing really has changed with the exception of some announcements about future announcements and more carriages.

Nothing from the minister about how she has spoken to Vline management who have in turned agreed to do things differently, improving processes and having a different approach to services.  it is shameful.

What is the definition of insanity?  Doing the same thing over and over and over again but expecting a different result.

New North East trains won't come until further consultation with no set date
bevans
Ms Allan said infrastructure issues such as the north-east corridor's use of the standard gauge line also hindered the Government's ability to deliver better rail services.

"It certainly complicates the issue and a little bit further in what is already a complex public transport system with different gauges and different types of carriages across the state," she said.


Its not a complex public transport system. Sydney's system is complex, Victoria's by world standards is simple. Judging by what Ms Allen has said, its seems that the Government has given up !!

"It does add to that complexity, it does add to the frustration of not being able to move more quickly to address some of these problems but most importantly I think we understand there is an issues, we heard loud and clear."

Well Ms Allen please hire a top Transport Manager from Overseas who will have some clear goals as to how the Rail network should operate.

Michael
  TedHanson Junior Train Controller

It's 18 months, not 2 years. The Andrews Government was sworn in on 4/12/14. The hallmark of the government has been to deliver on its promises, in stark contrast to the Baillieu/Napthine government that lied about everything to get elected in the first place. The only promise they kept was to put cows in the Alpine National Park. The Liberals, and their media mates, continue to say that Labor is overspending just as they did under the Bracks government when the regional lines were resurrected. The Libs called it "farce rail". They still do. Most transport enthusiasts called it "about time". The only problem with the Regional Rail Renewal was that not enough money was spent rather than too much. But it has resulted in the renaissance of regional rail travel.

Criticising a government for not going beyond their promises is a bit bizarre. Of course, it would be nice if they had been able to fix all the accumulated public transport and other infrastructure problems in 18 months. But no other government ever has, either here or anywhere else. I would like to see taxes rise by 20% to the same levels that enable significant ongoing rail works in Europe. But the state government can't do that and all we have at the moment from Turnbull, who is favourite to win the election, is a $50 billion tax cut for no good reason. If you want significant extra transport works - and it will need about $1 billion to get NE Rail right, including fixing the cuts to RRL, then that money is going to have to come from, at least in part, the Feds. They should be your target.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
It's 18 months, not 2 years. The Andrews Government was sworn in on 4/12/14. The hallmark of the government has been to deliver on its promises, in stark contrast to the Baillieu/Napthine government that lied about everything to get elected in the first place. The only promise they kept was to put cows in the Alpine National Park. The Liberals, and their media mates, continue to say that Labor is overspending just as they did under the Bracks government when the regional lines were resurrected. The Libs called it "farce rail". They still do. Most transport enthusiasts called it "about time". The only problem with the Regional Rail Renewal was that not enough money was spent rather than too much. But it has resulted in the renaissance of regional rail travel.

Criticising a government for not going beyond their promises is a bit bizarre. Of course, it would be nice if they had been able to fix all the accumulated public transport and other infrastructure problems in 18 months. But no other government ever has, either here or anywhere else. I would like to see taxes rise by 20% to the same levels that enable significant ongoing rail works in Europe. But the state government can't do that and all we have at the moment from Turnbull, who is favourite to win the election, is a $50 billion tax cut for no good reason. If you want significant extra transport works - and it will need about $1 billion to get NE Rail right, including fixing the cuts to RRL, then that money is going to have to come from, at least in part, the Feds. They should be your target.
TedHanson
I am not going to criticism the ALP about their overall performance, I think that their inclusiveness of all, rather than the cut, cut and cut again of the Coalition is a breath of fresh air. Jill Hennessy the Health Minister is head and shoulders better than her predecessor David Davis. Minister Allan should hire talent from Overseas as regards to V/Line.

and it will need about $1 billion to get NE Rail right, including fixing the cuts to RRL, then that money is going to have to come from, at least in part, the Feds. They should be your target.

No it doesnt. If the Melbourne Metro is going to be self funding costing some $10 Billion than the NE Rail can be funded by Victoria alone.

Michael

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