5 metre wide subway carriage

 
Topic moved from Sydney Suburban by dthead on 05 Mar 2018 11:05
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

This high capacity subway would be great to connect Badgerys creek to Waterloo via Parramatta and Central https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/331a49f3-7949-495b-b3d9-e675231588d6/5-metre-wide-carriage

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  tazzer96 Chief Commissioner

Many reasons why it would be terrible.  They also either have no idea about railways or they are terrible at proofreading as 200m radius curves aren't gentle.
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

Many reasons why it would be terrible.  They also either have no idea about railways or they are terrible at proofreading as 200m radius curves aren't gentle.
tazzer96
I only picked 200m radius as that would be the smallest that it would negotiate the bend and would not need any bogies but yes, the straighter the better.


Also any curves would only be at slow speed adjacent to stations to change direction.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
I guess 'Wide' was the next way to go as they have tried 'Long', 6,8,10 cars, then 'High' (Double Deckers) leaving 'Wide' to be tried out..........

I doubt there is a Metro Railway in the World that doesnt have over crowding and delays during the morning and evening peak periods.
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

I guess 'Wide' was the next way to go as they have tried 'Long', 6,8,10 cars, then 'High' (Double Deckers) leaving 'Wide' to be tried out..........

I doubt there is a Metro Railway in the World that doesnt have over crowding and delays during the morning and evening peak periods.
gordon_s1942

It could only be used with deep straight tunnels with few stations because generally shallow metro with lots of stations has too many corners and these stations would have no escalators but just big fast $2m lifts and travelators with the drift done by a roadheader.

The space between rows would have to be at least one metre to allow easy access but overall I think it would provide the same seating as a double decker just wide and low like a sports car to present the same blockage ratio.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
One concept is to alter the seating by placing them lengthwise instead of across the carriage which will allow more 'Sardines' to be packed in each car.
Fixed seat frames are not compressible but Commuters are...........Laughing
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

On skyscrapercity a poster wrote it is so 19th century having a walkway wasting space

The sardines vote and the experts might find they vote Labor in the hope seats will be provided
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
If you have seats across the carriage all facing the direction of travel then put the exit at the front; people will stand up and naturally walk forward. If you put the exit behind them then a lot, particularly those at the front of the carriage, will go for the wrong door and cause congestion. Suggest you swap colours, red means stop so a lot of, probably most, people will presume the red colour means stop, no entry and turn to go to the green end. More congestion and heart aches, putting dwell times right out.
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

Gooday Billy

I really did not expect anyone to look down here let alone think about it.

My grandaughter and I discussed this and decided when a girl was selecting who ito sit next to they would like to see their face


Any other good questions
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

Also I just re read what you said and see what you mean so I will only have red and green on the outside of the windowless carriage
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Just have platforms on both sides of each track, i.e. Single platform, then single track, island platform, single track, single platform. External platforms for boarding passengers with a different platform for each direction and the island platform for a lighting passengers both directions. Doors open to let passengers off, doors close, doors on the other side open to let passengers on. Quicker, easier, and more physical control of passenger movements.
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

Actually I was intending to use three platforms but maybe by loading/unloading both sides of the train it would double the capacity of the five huge lifts each platform would have going to various other platforms

PS
Decided it best with one 20 metre wide platform seen below
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

I drew up this rough sketch up of central station to give you a rough idea of what I am thinking.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/26c42c60-04d9-42ad-8bc4-a00f424f1a33/Sydney-central-station

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