QUBE hit the Melbourne - Adelaide trail

 
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Ok so a rough count(*):

FEU- 55
TEU- 19
Tanktainer - 7

Not sure what the train length or weight is of course but those numbers look like decent numbers if they can be repeatable.  Thats probably close to 40 trucks worth id be very roughly guessing?

(*) based on one count, i could be out by some and am happy to be corrected.
james.au
40 wagons by my (rough ?) count - many of them jumbos (4 x TEU). 40 wagons is confirmed by Bevans.

Using your TEU count of 136 plus one (?) empty slot = 138 TEU this equates to a trailing length of about 900 metres depending on the wagon classes involved and using 6.5 metres/TEU on rail. Including roughly 70 metres for the three locos length comes near enough to 1000 metres. Not bad for a start-up service - let's hope that they can keep it up.

It's always good to see extra traffic on rail and off the roads if, in fact, this proves to be the case. I just hope that it is not traffic lost by PN for example.

Is there perhaps any way to 'slow motion' videos like this one so as to gain a much more accurate count etc?

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  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
With another (3rd operator) in the market, the pricing for this route will be under that bit more pressure, which might lower the overall rail rate and make it more attractive for road.

Assuming normal pricing economics is working that is....
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
40 wagons by my (rough ?) count - many of them jumbos (4 x TEU). 40 wagons is confirmed by Bevans.

Using your TEU count of 136 plus one (?) empty slot = 138 TEU this equates to a trailing length of about 900 metres depending on the wagon classes involved and using 6.5 metres/TEU on rail. Including roughly 70 metres for the three locos length comes near enough to 1000 metres. Not bad for a start-up service - let's hope that they can keep it up.

It's always good to see extra traffic on rail and off the roads if, in fact, this proves to be the case. I just hope that it is not traffic lost by PN for example.

Is there perhaps any way to 'slow motion' videos like this one so as to gain a much more accurate count etc?
YM-Mundrabilla
So, a breakdown.

There are;

QBX: 2 (22.0m)
GML10: 1 (20.0m)
CQGY: 1 (21.1m) 3 TEU
CQKY: 6 (14.6m) 12 TEU
CQMY: 5 (25.7m) 20 TEU
LQAY: 4 (19.3m) 12 TEU
SQDY: 1 (14.7m) 2 TEU
SQEY: 22 (25.7m) 88 TEU

Total Available Slots: 137 TEU
Total Used Slots: 134 TEU

Total Length: 958.5m

From my observations, the JF Hillebrand 20' Tanktainers predominantly have Wine in them but are known to carry Beer and Distilled Spirits also.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Considering how little positive impact three to four operators have had on rail's market share on the Sydney to Melbourne corridor, it's hard to see the situation unfolding any differently on the Adelaide to Melbourne corridor. The pie can only be divided so many ways.

Rail and road compete on three things; transit time; price; and reliability. Get two of those and you probably get a customer, but get all three and you can put the other mode out of business.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Faaarken - how hard is it to grasp.

Up until a couple of days ago there was only one rail operator carrying freight Adelaide-Melbourne-Adelaide - that was PN - continually losing traffic on this sector to road over the last decade or so.

SCT only carries through freight to/from Perth.

Along comes QUBE, an operator that provides a seamless supply chain for its customers and happy to use road or rail whichever works out cheaper for the customer across the whole of the chain. I haven't had a close look, but these all look like shipping containers which (and happy to be corrected) PN no longer choose deal in on this sector.

So there is a pretty good chance this is new, or recovered, traffic for rail. But a few naysayers would rather dump on this, skew the discussion and tell us all why it won't work.

In fact it maybe (but hopefully not) be a short term thing because of a ship being diverted, but it's start. I'm not necessarily a big fan of QUBE, but in recent months they have shown the bigger boys how to be proactive  - think the new cement and hay traffics in Victoria.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
VL lead the westbound today.
  PaulSurguy Station Master

3AM6 today:

QBX001+QBX005+GML10

40 WAGONS
bevans
There is an increase in Diesel fuel tax starting very shortly I think it is 2% and another increase mid ext year, may have something to do with it
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
VL lead the westbound today.
bevans
VL358 led QBX005 & QBX001 with 40 wagons in tow.

Information via Gheringhap Loop website.
  firefox Station Master

Faaarken - how hard is it to grasp.

Up until a couple of days ago there was only one rail operator carrying freight Adelaide-Melbourne-Adelaide - that was PN - continually losing traffic on this sector to road over the last decade or so.

SCT only carries through freight to/from Perth.

Along comes QUBE, an operator that provides a seamless supply chain for its customers and happy to use road or rail whichever works out cheaper for the customer across the whole of the chain. I haven't had a close look, but these all look like shipping containers which (and happy to be corrected) PN no longer choose deal in on this sector.

So there is a pretty good chance this is new, or recovered, traffic for rail. But a few naysayers would rather dump on this, skew the discussion and tell us all why it won't work.

In fact it maybe (but hopefully not) be a short term thing because of a ship being diverted, but it's start. I'm not necessarily a big fan of QUBE, but in recent months they have shown the bigger boys how to be proactive  - think the new cement and hay traffics in Victoria.
bingley hall

And they have big plans to distribute imported petroleum in ISO tanktainers from a new bulk depot at Port Kembla Harbour.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
SCT only carries through freight to/from Perth.
bingley hall
This I did not know - and find interesting....
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
SCT only carries through freight to/from Perth.
bingley hall
I am not sure when SCT stopped Melbourne-Adelaide-Melbourne loading, but they were certainly regularly carrying loading earlier in the year. Beer, Hay, Meat and Wine, to name a few of the commodities they were transporting.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
40 wagons by my (rough ?) count - many of them jumbos (4 x TEU). 40 wagons is confirmed by Bevans.

Using your TEU count of 136 plus one (?) empty slot = 138 TEU this equates to a trailing length of about 900 metres depending on the wagon classes involved and using 6.5 metres/TEU on rail. Including roughly 70 metres for the three locos length comes near enough to 1000 metres. Not bad for a start-up service - let's hope that they can keep it up.

It's always good to see extra traffic on rail and off the roads if, in fact, this proves to be the case. I just hope that it is not traffic lost by PN for example.

Is there perhaps any way to 'slow motion' videos like this one so as to gain a much more accurate count etc?
So, a breakdown.

There are;

QBX: 2 (22.0m)
GML10: 1 (20.0m)
CQGY: 1 (21.1m) 3 TEU
CQKY: 6 (14.6m) 12 TEU
CQMY: 5 (25.7m) 20 TEU
LQAY: 4 (19.3m) 12 TEU
SQDY: 1 (14.7m) 2 TEU
SQEY: 22 (25.7m) 88 TEU

Total Available Slots: 137 TEU
Total Used Slots: 134 TEU

Total Length: 958.5m

From my observations, the JF Hillebrand 20' Tanktainers predominantly have Wine in them but are known to carry Beer and Distilled Spirits also.
Jack Le Lievre
My rough calcs earlier today were not wildly inaccurate. Smile
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
SCT only carries through freight to/from Perth.
I am not sure when SCT stopped Melbourne-Adelaide-Melbourne loading, but they were certainly regularly carrying loading earlier in the year. Beer, Hay, Meat and Wine, to name a few of the commodities they were transporting.
Jack Le Lievre

Do SCT still run the loading out of Horsham to the west?
  PaulSurguy Station Master

SCT only carries through freight to/from Perth.
I am not sure when SCT stopped Melbourne-Adelaide-Melbourne loading, but they were certainly regularly carrying loading earlier in the year. Beer, Hay, Meat and Wine, to name a few of the commodities they were transporting.
Jack Le Lievre
If you go to Port Augusta trains on facebook page there are pictures of SCT trains heading out of PA south to Adelaide with high cube box cars on.Those box cars do not go past Penfields so they must be loaded there for the west,also SCT has the Big W contract for SA and WA
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If you go to Port Augusta trains on facebook page there are pictures of SCT trains heading out of PA south to Adelaide with high cube box cars on.Those box cars do not go past Penfields so they must be loaded there for the west,also SCT has the Big W contract for SA and WA
PaulSurguy

High Cube cars are also exchanged near Crystal Brook with cars for Parkes which I believe can take High Cube cars?
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
4AM6 departed Outer Harbor yesterday with VL358-GML10-QBX005 in charge of 40 empty flats (all AM6’s has containers prior), could be the end of this service or trial. Got it at Fosters Corner (Belair) on its way east:

https://flic.kr/p/2hXT9JY
  Trans-Siberian Station Master

Location: Krasnoyarsk, Siberia
Any confirmation that Qube Inter-modal's Melbourne - Adelaide - Melbourne was a short-term service or is still going...?

No further action to-date according to the Watchers at Gheringhap Loop..!?
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Any confirmation that Qube Inter-modal's Melbourne - Adelaide - Melbourne was a short-term service or is still going...?

No further action to-date according to the Watchers at Gheringhap Loop..!?
Trans-Siberian
It was short term. The wagons went in the direction of Sydney last week.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Is a shame it’s not a regular service now, would be great to have another operator in the Adelaide hills besides the usual
  Trans-Siberian Station Master

Location: Krasnoyarsk, Siberia
Any confirmation that Qube Inter-modal's Melbourne - Adelaide - Melbourne was a short-term service or is still going...?

No further action to-date according to the Watchers at Gheringhap Loop..!?
It was short term. The wagons went in the direction of Sydney last week.
Fatty

Thank You...Idea!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Nice pic of QBX001 on a qube service at Port Adelaide via https://www.railpage.com.au/photos/107094

  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Any confirmation that Qube Inter-modal's Melbourne - Adelaide - Melbourne was a short-term service or is still going...?

No further action to-date according to the Watchers at Gheringhap Loop..!?
Trans-Siberian
noted some comments on facebook reposing news articles that the reason was relating to a large container ship that couldn't get into Melbourne (to big) but could get into Adelaide. extra services related to shifting that loading.
  Trans-Siberian Station Master

Location: Krasnoyarsk, Siberia
Any confirmation that Qube Inter-modal's Melbourne - Adelaide - Melbourne was a short-term service or is still going...?

No further action to-date according to the Watchers at Gheringhap Loop..!?
noted some comments on facebook reposing news articles that the reason was relating to a large container ship that couldn't get into Melbourne (to big) but could get into Adelaide. extra services related to shifting that loading.
Galron

Thanks Galron....Yes, I saw the Flinders Ports facebook too....referring to MSC Pamela's visit...!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Has Qube stopped the Adelaide/Melbourne Intermodal service?

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