Tulloch time

 
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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fascinating article.  The backbone of branch line passenger operations in NSW or wider?

Tulloch time

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  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

Fascinating article.  The backbone of branch line passenger operations in NSW or wider?

Tulloch time
bevans
I found the Tulloch cars (PCH 1200 class) to be comfortable, quiet (well, as good as a DMU will ever be) and smooth to travel in, and they didn't seem to lack power. I understand that the NSWR was for a protracted period involved in warranty wrangles with Tullochs, but once that was over it was a pity that the NSWR didn't sort out the control/transmission problems themselves, AIUI (ducking and looking out for YM!), Victoria managed to do so with theirs, and so emboldened, bought two from NSW.
I didn't ride them in their loco hauled days, so don't know what they were like by then.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Fascinating article.  The backbone of branch line passenger operations in NSW or wider?
bevans
Whilst the plan was to run these on the Riverina, with cars uncoupling and running separately to Cowra, Griffith/Hillston, Tumut and Lake Cargellico, failures meant they didn't operate this way for long. According to "Rail Motors and XPTs" sufficient cars had been delivered by 14 Feb 1972 to run to this plan, following repeated failures the use on the Riverina was discountinued from 18 Jan 1973. Less than a year. Although one four car set returned on 12 Feb 73 I am not certain whether it used the split and join approach, or simply ran as a through service.

An excellent idea, but flawed in execution.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

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In February 1974 I travelled from Tumut to Sydney by the Riverina. Due to PCH problems there was a school bus from Tumut to Mt Horeb. We transferred there to a two-car CPH through to Cootamundra. There we transferred to a train of PCHs for the run to Sydney. The PCHs were a better and quieter ride than the HUB/RUB sets over the same route.

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  theanimal Chief Commissioner

I found the Tulloch cars (PCH 1200 class) to be comfortable, quiet (well, as good as a DMU will ever be) and smooth to travel in, and they didn't seem to lack power. I understand that the NSWR was for a protracted period involved in warranty wrangles with Tullochs, but once that was over it was a pity that the NSWR didn't sort out the control/transmission problems themselves, AIUI (ducking and looking out for YM!), Victoria managed to do so with theirs, and so emboldened, bought two from NSW.
I didn't ride them in their loco hauled days, so don't know what they were like by then.
Lockspike
the reason they were generally quiet is that they were loco hauled
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
It appears as though the powers that be gave up on these far too early in their lives.  Connectivity was and is a big issue with all multiple railcar sets.  The Explorers and Endeavours are no different today.

The 1970's is when the NSWGR gave away many opportunities to provide a reliable freight and passenger service.  Cost instead of service became the overriding criteria.  This lead to the withdrawal of backup resources (such as staff and assets) causing the system to go into an uncontrollable spiral of service withdrawals.

Happy RIPing,

John

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