Riots in Minnesota

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
An interesting piece by Waleed Aly.  58% of Americans support the Military getting involved:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/floyd-protesters-face-a-mountain-of-public-opinion-20200604-p54zdt.html

Although that survey was done before Tuesday's violence and Trump's "Reservoir Dogs" performance.
Carnot
Most of these protestors are peaceful protestors, it's only a minority that are using the protests to cover for their looting and vandalism of property, Trump really does have no authority to get the military involved on his own people.

*Edit, some of the violence would be being done by some peaceful protestors as well, who have just had enough of the police violence, but as I said, most of the unrest is caused by other troublemakers

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  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Don and I clearly have differing opinions on China, so no, I'm not Don's sock puppet. Blacks, as an ethnic minority, have a far better deal living in the U.S. than ethnic minorities in most other countries. Try being white, or Arab even in Liberia, or Zimbabwe. Check out the reason Liberia was created and have a look at the reality. How about anywhere in the Middle East? Do you think the Gulf States treat Asians with joy and goodness? What do think will happen first, an Hispanic or Asian U.S. President, or another White South African President? Tell me about all the sub-saharan African states where it's a joy and pleasure to be born white? Tell me about the North African states where blacks and Whites get as good a deal as any local. Things in the U.S. may not be as good as blacks want them to be but it's pretty good compared to the alternatives, ad if they think the police treat them poorly, again, have a look elsewhere. Would they prefer Russian, Indian, Turkish,or Nigerian police to be on their backs? Libyan police maybe? There are perfectly legal avenues for protest, and Americans risk far far less using those avenues than in just about any country. Look at what we learned about the Japanese system recently with that Renault-Nissan bloke. It's just the whole compensation/priveledge culture; I want it all and I want it now and I'm going to smash stuff if you don't give it to me.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Hey Don, believe or not, you ain't that important!!
mejhammers1

Really, Michael, I'm not that important but every single time I post on this thread I come back later to find a love letter from you. Every single time!
No, your imagination is running wild again, because Don as usual you have nothing. So he is black and he loves Trump, that's fine. If having Paris Dennard, BJ Maxwell and Malik Abdul heaping nothing but praise for the wonderful Mr Trump gives you comfort then go for it.

If I want to watch some thick bloke with a foul mouth I'd watch Jersey Shore or Geordie Shore.

mejhammers1

So he's black but he has the wrong opinion so he's just "thick". Got it.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Hey Don, and everyone else going "hey they do it to white people too", even if you take out race the whole point of these protests and then ensuing riots was police brutality and overreaction.


HALF OF THESE PROTESTS TURNED INTO RIOTS BECAUSE THE COPS TEARGASSED AND SHOT AT PEOPLE WITH RUBBER BULLETS. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IN THE HEAD, EVEN WITH THE TEAR GAS CANISTERS.


THERE ARE NOW 240 INCIDENTS OF COPS ESCALTING THE SITUATION, COMPILED BY THE TWITTER USER BELOW

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette




YOU DENSE smeg. YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Hey Don, and everyone else going "hey they do it to white people too", even if you take out race the whole point of these protests and then ensuing riots was police brutality and overreaction.


HALF OF THESE PROTESTS TURNED INTO RIOTS BECAUSE THE COPS TEARGASSED AND SHOT AT PEOPLE WITH RUBBER BULLETS. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IN THE HEAD, EVEN WITH THE TEAR GAS CANISTERS.


THERE ARE NOW 240 INCIDENTS OF COPS ESCALTING THE SITUATION, COMPILED BY THE TWITTER USER BELOW

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette




YOU DENSE smeg. YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT

speedemon08
Wow, a Twit is your source.   Might as well quote Don Trump's Twitter feed.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
YOU DENSE smeg. YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT:


PEOPLE STORMED GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS WITH GUNS WEEKS AGO OVER A LOCKDOWN AND THE POLICE, NOT WEARING RIOT GEAR, DONE smeg AND IT DIDNT ESCALATE.
PEOPLE PROTESTING ABOUT POLICE BRUTALITY WITH NO WEAPONS ARE GETTING OVERREACTED AT BY THE POLICE IN FULL RIOT GEAR AND LOW AND BEHOLD PEOPLE ARE ANGRY

THERE IS ACTUAL VIDEO EVIDENCE AND YOU'RE BITCHING ABOUT WHERE IT'S UPLOADED.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
IF I WRITE WITH BIG FONT I MORE BETTER
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
IF I WRITE WITH BIG FONT I MORE BETTER
billybaxter
So your'e not going to argue the point that most of the US police have a rageboner over causing violence?

Says a lot, doesnt it.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Hey Don, believe or not, you ain't that important!!

Really, Michael, I'm not that important but every single time I post on this thread I come back later to find a love letter from you. Every single time!
No, your imagination is running wild again, because Don as usual you have nothing. So he is black and he loves Trump, that's fine. If having Paris Dennard, BJ Maxwell and Malik Abdul heaping nothing but praise for the wonderful Mr Trump gives you comfort then go for it.

If I want to watch some thick bloke with a foul mouth I'd watch Jersey Shore or Geordie Shore.

So he's black but he has the wrong opinion so he's just "thick". Got it.
don_dunstan
What's that popping sound. oh its Don disappearing up his own rear.

What's this Don, the 2020's version of I have a black friend? Probably be the only black person you will take notice of.

No Don. Anyone who just does a foul mouthed tirade is thick whether they are white black or brindle. But of course Mr Dunstan is the voice of reason, prepared to listen to everyone's point of view, whilst accusing everyone who does not agree with him as an agent of the Chinese Government.

Didn't say Maxwell, Dennard or Abdul were thick. but I do think that they are misguided fools. A party that has amongst its supporters Richard Spencer and David Duke, two of the foulest White Supremacists there is. And that is like Turkeys voting for Christmas.



Michael
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
IF I WRITE WITH BIG FONT I MORE BETTER
So your'e not going to argue the point that most of the US police have a rageboner over causing violence?

Says a lot, doesnt it.
speedemon08
The police in the U.S are somewhat trigger happy, I feel that part of the violence also, was the protestors reacting to the police being very heavy handed.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Don and I clearly have differing opinions on China, so no, I'm not Don's sock puppet. Blacks, as an ethnic minority, have a far better deal living in the U.S. than ethnic minorities in most other countries. Try being white, or Arab even in Liberia, or Zimbabwe. Check out the reason Liberia was created and have a look at the reality. How about anywhere in the Middle East? Do you think the Gulf States treat Asians with joy and goodness? What do think will happen first, an Hispanic or Asian U.S. President, or another White South African President? Tell me about all the sub-saharan African states where it's a joy and pleasure to be born white? Tell me about the North African states where blacks and Whites get as good a deal as any local. Things in the U.S. may not be as good as blacks want them to be but it's pretty good compared to the alternatives, ad if they think the police treat them poorly, again, have a look elsewhere. Would they prefer Russian, Indian, Turkish,or Nigerian police to be on their backs? Libyan police maybe? There are perfectly legal avenues for protest, and Americans risk far far less using those avenues than in just about any country. Look at what we learned about the Japanese system recently with that Renault-Nissan bloke. It's just the whole compensation/priveledge culture; I want it all and I want it now and I'm going to smash stuff if you don't give it to me.
billybaxter
Billy

I have to say what you wrote is the lamest rubbish and whataboutery I have ever read. What is happening all over the world as regards to ethnic tensions is disgusting, but for you to use that as a defence for the awful actions of some police in the US is frankly absolute bollocks. I mean surely you are better than this.

I am not going to go into detail about white minority rule in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) in the 60's and 70's. Lets just say under Ian Smith blacks were treated worst than stray dogs.

Things in the U.S. may not be as good as blacks want them to be but it's pretty good compared to the alternatives

And that is so remotely not the point. Black people should be treated as respectfully and as the same as White people, all people regardless of colour, religion or sexual orientation should be treated equally, do you not understand this!!!!

90% of black people are descended from slaves. If it wasn't for the magnificent black women in the US, people of colour and especially black people would have no rights, because they drove the Civil rights movement. Before 1970 black people were not born with the same rights as white people. They had to fight for everything they gained.

Would they prefer Russian, Indian, Turkish,or Nigerian police to be on their backs? Libyan police maybe?

Again not the point. So black people should put up with the deaths of innocent black people? Rodney King, Tamir Rice, Atiana Jefferson, Botham John, Armaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, Philando Castille and I can go on and on. Wow Billy. That is BulllllSheeeet !!!

You spout crap like that and then wonder why you receive a strong response. The fact that you do not even acknowledge those deaths is offensive and speaks volumes. I am not going to use bad language at this point, I know how it upsets your sensibilities!

I hear Breitbart is looking for a new editor.


Michael
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
All the protestors are being urged to get tested for Coronavirus, there is no such thing as Social Distancing taking place over there, protestors jammed together like sardines! what a perfect storm for a massive 2nd wave of infections, Coronavirus will still be well entrenched come the fall over there as well.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Things in the U.S. may not be as good as blacks want them to be but it's pretty good compared to the alternatives
billybaxter
Your whole argument is based upon the belief that the black Americans' place is to be under domination like all the countries and races you listed. One of the alternatives which you blindingly obviously failed to even consider is fair treatment - why didn't you think of that?
What happens to ethnic minorities in any other countries has no relevance at all to what is happening in the USA. African Americans deserve equality and they haven't got it. Other countries can be dealt with on their own merits, but have no place in this topic.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
I won't wait for the woke to start topics on any other country. Black Americans are the de rigueur minority and always will be.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Things in the U.S. may not be as good as blacks want them to be but it's pretty good compared to the alternatives
Your whole argument is based upon the belief that the black Americans' place is to be under domination like all the countries and races you listed. One of the alternatives which you blindingly obviously failed to even consider is fair treatment - why didn't you think of that?
What happens to ethnic minorities in any other countries has no relevance at all to what is happening in the USA. African Americans deserve equality and they haven't got it. Other countries can be dealt with on their own merits, but have no place in this topic.
Valvegear
Wonderfully put, Valvegear. Some view equality for all as oppression against white people.


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I won't wait for the woke to start topics on any other country. Black Americans are the de rigueur minority and always will be.
"billybaxter"
Just fill me in on one detail. Is it your belief that minorities should not enjoy equality with the majority?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
What's that popping sound. oh its Don disappearing up his own rear.
mejhammers1
Oh what's that lovely smell? It's another rose-scented love letter from my friend mejhammers1 who just hangs off every word I say like the Tina Turner song. He sits crossed legged in his bedroom with his George Michael posters pouting until I finally respond to him...
What's this Don, the 2020's version of I have a black friend? Probably be the only black person you will take notice of.
mejhammers1
What are you talking about, you're my BFF (black friend forever)! We have such a close relationship its a wonder you have any time for your family at all...
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
I won't wait for the woke to start topics on any other country. Black Americans are the de rigueur minority and always will be.

billybaxter
Go for your life, Billy. But hiding behind terms like de rigueur just makes you sound like a complete w..ker.

Woke because most people believe in equality. Go figure.



Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
What's that popping sound. oh its Don disappearing up his own rear.
Oh what's that lovely smell? It's another rose-scented love letter from my friend mejhammers1 who just hangs off every word I say like the Tina Turner song. He sits crossed legged in his bedroom with his George Michael posters pouting until I finally respond to him...
What's this Don, the 2020's version of I have a black friend? Probably be the only black person you will take notice of.
What are you talking about, you're my BFF (black friend forever)! We have such a close relationship its a wonder you have any time for your family at all...
don_dunstan
Yet again, got nothing, so tries to be funny.

What an insult, me an avid listener to motown and artists such as Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye that you would think I am a fan of George flaming Michael that lamo.

And hey Don, you are not my type.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Yet again, got nothing, so tries to be funny. Hey Don, you are not my type.


Michael
mejhammers1
Yet again the sweet, sweet scent of another mejhammers love letter. You say I'm not your type and yet you hang off my every single word XXX.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
I think Don's finally lost it.

Michael
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Romans 10:12 says everything you need to know about equality.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
And in Deuteronomy when God tells the Israelites that there are other ethnicities living in the promised land what does god say? Not ‘go in peace and play nicely’ he says ‘smite them and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them. Neither shall thou make marriages with them.’

Screams equality wouldn’t you say?

Remember in the same book when the Ammonites and Moabites were not allowed into the congregation of the Lord?

That’s nice and equal.

What about in Numbers, when the Israelites married into the Moabites and another Israeli marries a Midianitish and God tells Moses to kill them or hang them or whatever it says, and God rejoices because Phinehas kills them with a javelin?

Yup, more Biblical equality right there.

Samuel tells us that the Lord said to go and take on the Alamek, set about the destruction of all that they have, spare no one, kill their men, women and children, and kill the animals too.

All of that is before we bother with the talk of slavery...

The Bible is a nasty piece of work and if it were written as a new text today we would probably, hopefully, rightfully, gaol the authors for crimes of hate speech.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Nice try, but that's Old Testament stuff, pre New Covenant.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I think Don's finally lost it.

Michael
mejhammers1
Nah just utterly sick to death of that perpetual chip on your shoulder.

Have you ever thought about going to live in one of those really peaceful, prosperous black majority societies like South Africa, Zimbabwe, or one of those nice stable, democratic Central African Republics? Just asking because you obviously don't like living in a white majority society - you constantly complain about discrimination and race.

What am I saying, if you lived in a black majority country you'd still be whinging about everything. Like Muslim people who hold Islam up as the very paradigm of what a perfect society should look like but then there's no way in hell they'd ever want to live in some hell-hole like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.

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