Two Great Trains in One

 
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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Seriously considering a set to add to my collection with this deluxe set https://www.walthers.com/deluxe-set-1 which is quite comprehensive.

Two Great Trains in One

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  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Must be a massive market for that sort of collection over there in the US?

Can you imagine here (Auscision are the only ones big/bold enough eventually MAYBE) someone offering something remotely similar to this.
However I cant actually see them or anyone here doing it, based on what possible combinations there might be to suit a wide variety of interests in both state based trains or interstate running consists.

I don't believe the market here is big enough. This is completely different to Locos in a 2 pack.

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  M636C Minister for Railways

Seriously considering a set to add to my collection with this deluxe set https://www.walthers.com/deluxe-set-1 which is quite comprehensive.

Two Great Trains in One
bevans
If you have the money, remembering that this is quoted in $US...

I have the original post war Super Chief from Walthers. I originally bought just the observation, diner and dome lounge.
It was painted silver rather than plated, so I had to search for older painted cars to complete it.

If you want to run separate trains, I'd get a Super Chief observation and maybe a Budd 10&6 and a PS 4-4-2 (all plated of course)

You would only need a couple of High level coaches and maybe a baggage for a separate El Capitan.

Do you have enough F units? Remember that Santa Fe A units didn't have steam heating so you need two B units per train....

Since I model an earlier era, I have a PA-1 and a PB-1, A=B Erie builts and a DL109....

Peter
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I wonder if they'll copy Rapido and have the correct place settings in the dining car.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
I wonder if they'll copy Rapido and have the correct place settings in the dining car.
lkernan
No, they wont.

Walthers are only doing the really iconic long trains in the super popular 60's era. I'd love for them to make a second run of Amfleets, but rerun is a dirty word for them (since the list of all the smeg they need to rerun is large).
  M636C Minister for Railways

I wonder if they'll copy Rapido and have the correct place settings in the dining car.
No, they wont.

Walthers are only doing the really iconic long trains in the super popular 60's era. I'd love for them to make a second run of Amfleets, but rerun is a dirty word for them (since the list of all the smeg they need to rerun is large).
speedemon08
Bachmann still list Amfleet I cars (doors each end) in Phase 6 colours, although they are sold out right now, they presumably plan to make more if they are still listed on line.

These are quite nice but I don't know how well they would match the recent Walthers cars.

I have quite a few Walthers first generation Amfleet cars, both types I and II.
I bought most of these at West Ryde for $10 to $15 each.
Some are in Phase II and Phase III schemes but most in more or less current Phase IV or V.

(at one stage I counted 55 Walthers cars in Amtrak schemes, not all bought at $10 each)

I haven't actually compared the last series of Walthers Amfleet cars which I guess are plated rather than painted with my painted cars.

Peter
  SAR523 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Chicago, IL
Must be a massive market for that sort of collection over there in the US?
davesvline

I can confirm that there is. In my local operating group, which is one out of a couple
in the Northwest suburbs of Chicago, there would be at least 6 layouts that I go to that are 150 sq m plus, and they’ve all got numerous passenger trains sitting around on them. People just like ‘em.

And I see the same when going on NMRA layout tours around the country.

Also, while there’s still a tendency to see local prototypes in different regions, there’s a lot less parochialism than I see in Australia which is obviously born out of the former state rail monopolies and the lack of interchange between them.

This Super Chief rolling stock ran over a huge chunk of the country (Chicago to LA), through many populated states (unlike the Indian Pacific) with much the same equipment for a few decade, including the most popular steam-diesel transition era (although some fudging will be required, some of that stuff is post-steam).

But I bet I’ll see a lot more of these behind war bonnet Fs than Blue and Yellows.  People love that scheme; I’ve seen it even on Milwaukee road, NP and D&RG (standard gauge) layouts, which is a long way from home Smile
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Seriously considering a set to add to my collection with this deluxe set https://www.walthers.com/deluxe-set-1 which is quite comprehensive.

Two Great Trains in One
If you have the money, remembering that this is quoted in $US...

I have the original post war Super Chief from Walthers. I originally bought just the observation, diner and dome lounge.
It was painted silver rather than plated, so I had to search for older painted cars to complete it.

If you want to run separate trains, I'd get a Super Chief observation and maybe a Budd 10&6 and a PS 4-4-2 (all plated of course)

You would only need a couple of High level coaches and maybe a baggage for a separate El Capitan.

Do you have enough F units? Remember that Santa Fe A units didn't have steam heating so you need two B units per train....

Since I model an earlier era, I have a PA-1 and a PB-1, A=B Erie builts and a DL109....

Peter
M636C
If you really have the money there were a number of US importers who offered complete hand made brass plated passenger sets for the bargain price of around $4500 USD. It's late at night after work and I just can't recall the recent importers names except Railway Classics.
  M636C Minister for Railways

But I bet I’ll see a lot more of these behind war bonnet Fs than Blue and Yellows.  People love that scheme; I’ve seen it even on Milwaukee road, NP and D&RG (standard gauge) layouts, which is a long way from home
In fact, the Santa Fe passenger F units continued to work the Super Chief/EL Capitan well after the Amtrak takeover of passenger trains. I don't think that blue and yellow units ever regularly worked on Santa Fe's major main line trains.

My first visit to the USA was in January 1974 when I discovered I could return from London to Sydney via LA at no extra cost..

I made my way up to LAUPT and watched the arrival of the combined train.
It was a clear day and as the train rounded the curve at Mission Tower, the morning sun reflected off the red noses of the locomotives. They were then new Amtrak SDP40Fs but the effect was if nothing had changed...

(I should get at least one Phase I Amtrak SDP40F model.....)

On my nest visit in 1977, I did the same but the same locomotives had been repainted in Phase II with the horizontal red and blue stripes and the effect wasn't as good (but neither was the weather).

Peter

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