Welcome to Trump town

 
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Calling fake news on Trumps declaration of fake news.
Perfectly timed for the Dems.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/trump-taxes-takeaways.html

$70,000 in hairstyling for television.
Costs a fair bit to tame and train ferret/meerkat cross.
wobert
The most interesting this is the confirmation that he's in debt, and the subject of $72 millions worth of tax fraud by the IRS and the fact that Ivanka Trump being a consultant to the Trump Organisation means he can leverage this to be yet another tax deduction, on top of the constantly loss making Trump properties.


No wonder why he never wants to release this information, he's smeg.

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  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
It reveals that 3.5 million Black Americans were categorised by Donald Trump’s campaign as ‘Deterrence’ – voters they wanted to stay home on election day. Tonight, civil rights campaigners said the evidence amounted to a new form of voter “suppression” and called on Facebook to disclose ads and targeting information that has never been made public.

The ‘Deterrence’ project can be revealed after Channel 4 News obtained the database used by Trump’s digital campaign team – credited with helping deliver his shock victory to become president four years ago. Vast in scale, it contains details on almost 200 million Americans, among more than 5,000 files, which together amass almost 5 terabytes of data – making it one of the biggest leaks in history.

It reveals not only the huge amounts of data held on every individual voter, but how that data was used and manipulated by models and algorithms. In 16 key battleground states, millions of Americans were separated by an algorithm into one of eight categories, also described as ‘audiences’, so they could then be targeted with tailored ads on Facebook and other platforms.

One of the categories was named ‘Deterrence’, which was later described publicly by Trump’s chief data scientist as containing people that the campaign “hope don’t show up to vote”. Analysis by Channel 4 News shows Black Americans – historically a community targeted with voter suppression tactics – were disproportionately marked ‘Deterrence’ by the 2016 campaign.

In total, 3.5 million Black Americans were marked ‘Deterrence’. In Georgia, despite Black people constituting 32% of the population, they made up 61% of the ‘Deterrence’ category. In North Carolina, Black people are 22% of the population but were 46% of ‘Deterrence’.
In Wisconsin, Black people constitute just 5.4% of the population but made up 17% of ‘Deterrence’. The disproportionate categorising of Black Americans for ‘Deterrence’ is seen across the US. Overall, people of colour labelled as Black, Hispanic, Asian and ‘Other’ groups made up 54% of the ‘Deterrence’ category. In contrast, other categories of voters the campaign wished to attract were overwhelmingly white.
Somebody
https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016

This got overshadowed by the NY Times article
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/28/non-partisan-watchdog-accuses-trump-campaign-of-laundering-170-million/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&s=04

The Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan campaign finance watchdog group, filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission Tuesday accusing the Trump campaign of “laundering” $170 million through numerous companies, some with connections to former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale.
Somebody
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
It reveals that 3.5 million Black Americans were categorised by Donald Trump’s campaign as ‘Deterrence’ – voters they wanted to stay home on election day. Tonight, civil rights campaigners said the evidence amounted to a new form of voter “suppression” and called on Facebook to disclose ads and targeting information that has never been made public.

The ‘Deterrence’ project can be revealed after Channel 4 News obtained the database used by Trump’s digital campaign team – credited with helping deliver his shock victory to become president four years ago. Vast in scale, it contains details on almost 200 million Americans, among more than 5,000 files, which together amass almost 5 terabytes of data – making it one of the biggest leaks in history.

It reveals not only the huge amounts of data held on every individual voter, but how that data was used and manipulated by models and algorithms. In 16 key battleground states, millions of Americans were separated by an algorithm into one of eight categories, also described as ‘audiences’, so they could then be targeted with tailored ads on Facebook and other platforms.

One of the categories was named ‘Deterrence’, which was later described publicly by Trump’s chief data scientist as containing people that the campaign “hope don’t show up to vote”. Analysis by Channel 4 News shows Black Americans – historically a community targeted with voter suppression tactics – were disproportionately marked ‘Deterrence’ by the 2016 campaign.

In total, 3.5 million Black Americans were marked ‘Deterrence’. In Georgia, despite Black people constituting 32% of the population, they made up 61% of the ‘Deterrence’ category. In North Carolina, Black people are 22% of the population but were 46% of ‘Deterrence’.
In Wisconsin, Black people constitute just 5.4% of the population but made up 17% of ‘Deterrence’. The disproportionate categorising of Black Americans for ‘Deterrence’ is seen across the US. Overall, people of colour labelled as Black, Hispanic, Asian and ‘Other’ groups made up 54% of the ‘Deterrence’ category. In contrast, other categories of voters the campaign wished to attract were overwhelmingly white.
https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016

This got overshadowed by the NY Times article
speedemon08
And yet through all Trumps lying, corruption, hypocrisy, sleazyness, backflips, racism and incompetence. As flawed as Hillary and Obama were don't even come close to this a$$hole. Still many on this forum thinks he is the dogs bollocks. I hate to say this, because I am not a fan of Biden, but Biden with a lobotomy would be better than this imbecile, and policy wise he is an imbecile.

Many media outlets have been covering voter suppression carried out by as many as 12 states, all red states for the past decade.


Michael
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The electoral system in the U.S.A is a unending dumpster fire.  Why can't they have a unified and simple voting system like our AEC?

Seriously?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
The electoral system in the U.S.A is a unending dumpster fire.  Why can't they have a unified and simple voting system like our AEC?

Seriously?
Carnot
Republicans wouldnt get such a high votage percentage, it's the same with the electoral college. They in particular dont like a fair vote because they would have to be less smeg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-4dIImaodQ
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
The electoral system in the U.S.A is a unending dumpster fire.  Why can't they have a unified and simple voting system like our AEC?

Seriously?
Carnot
That, their Supreme court judges being nominated by politicians (WTF happened to separation of powers), and their 2nd Amendment all tolled is IMHO 98% of WTF is wrong with the joint. Rolling Eyes

Regards
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Tomorrow will be the Presidential debate between Trump and Biden, will be interesting to see how it goes, I understand that this election will be fought on the handling of the Coronavirus Pandemic.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Apart from walking into a second term, Trump may push for a further 4 more years in 2024 and be a President 4 Life, changing the constitution in the process. Why not borrow from the Putin and Xi playbook?
You must be a troll ANR. Trump is a complete imbecile.


Michael
No he's not - in fact he did something really brilliant last week that went completely un-noticed by his critics (as usual). Instead of shutting Tic Toc down in the United States he forced the Chinese government to allow an American onto the board and got them to sell a percentage of the company to Cisco. The Chinese folded and Trump won but nobody cares because it's Trump.
Lets break it down a bit more:

Some of Tik Toks server side got sold to a American company (Oracle) with a very pro Trump CEO and Bytedance, the parent company of Tik Tok still owns over 60% of the company.

He only got mad at it since he cant control the narrative on the platform, not for security reasons.
Alright I got part of the story wrong - but if it was Obama that did it they would have been hailing him as a new-age genius and 'strong on China' (which he never was).

And you're deducing that he did it for commercial and not security reasons - there's no evidence for that.
There was nothing to suggest that the servers Tik Tok already had based in the US were doing anything nefarious, hell they had employees based in the US to handle things.

Trump also kept referring to "getting a cut" constantly when Tik Tok getting sold came up.
speedemon08
LOL yeah right, there was no threat at all of Bytedance passing on all the information it had accrued to the Chinese Intelligence services. None whatsoever.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
And yet through all Trumps lying, corruption, hypocrisy, sleazyness, backflips, racism and incompetence.

Instead of shutting Tic Toc down in the United States he forced the Chinese government to allow an American onto the board and got them to sell a percentage of the company to Cisco. The Chinese folded and Trump won but nobody cares because it's Trump.

Yeah that just about covers it doesn't it? Yeah like losing a $100 note and then being really happy on finding a $5 note to replace it.

Obama despite his many flaws, one of which not doing enough for black Americans, saved the Automobile Industry. Knocks Trump's accomplishment into a cocked hat wouldn't you think.


Michael
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Not that I can vote, but after the business of laughing at dead soldiers, this tax dodge thing has put me right off Trump. Where does he think money for the military and police come from? Sounds like he doesn't want to pay his fair share to me! Claiming kudos for increasing funding is the cream of the cherry cake, saying he's a great guy for giving them more from a pot he's proud not to contribute to! ????
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I didn't watch a lot of the debate, but Trump was extremely rude in parts, he kept on interrupting Biden while he was trying to make his points, in short, very painful!
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Probably one of the more accurate observations of the debate (if you can even call it that):
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Probably one of the more accurate observations of the debate (if you can even call it that):
Carnot
Ain't that the truth, probably one of the worst debates in human history!!
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
Probably one of the more accurate observations of the debate (if you can even call it that):
Carnot
I havent watched the debate and it is probably true about it. I would take anything that racist throbber Ben Shapiro says with a pinch of salt. The dickhead kid is an absolute a$$hole.


Michael
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The Moderator of the debate was clearly bias in my view, he kept on trying to hammer Trump on things, a Mod shouldn't do that, he should try and keep the debate moving without having his own political agenda.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
It was not a debate; it was more like a schoolyard squabble. A disgraceful event. The moderator lost all semblance of control.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
The Moderator of the debate was clearly bias in my view, he kept on trying to hammer Trump on things, a Mod shouldn't do that, he should try and keep the debate moving without having his own political agenda.
lsrailfan
You know that Chris Wallace is a Republican who is a FOX Host! Anyhow I can understand what you are saying but Donald Trump is no Ordinary President. Maybe this isn't the platform but I cannot understand why so many on this forum give that Racist, lying, corrupt, tax dodging, draft dodging, hypocritical, incompetent imbecile a pass? If he is getting hammered it is because it is fully deserved.

Screw Trump.

Michael
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The Moderator of the debate was clearly bias in my view, he kept on trying to hammer Trump on things, a Mod shouldn't do that, he should try and keep the debate moving without having his own political agenda.
You know that Chris Wallace is a Republican who is a FOX Host! Anyhow I can understand what you are saying but Donald Trump is no Ordinary President. Maybe this isn't the platform but I cannot understand why so many on this forum give that Racist, lying, corrupt, tax dodging, draft dodging, hypocritical, incompetent imbecile a pass? If he is getting hammered it is because it is fully deserved.

Screw Trump.

Michael
mejhammers1
My bad then, well whatever the case, he should of taken more control, although I just did a read of his bio, he is apparently renowned in the states for that style of tough interviewing technique.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Seriously..... both Trump and Biden have dementia
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Joe Biden has a stutter, that's why he's not as fluent as others.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

After watching that, I am strongly in favour of amending our Constitution to extend the mandatory retirement age for judges to also apply to politicians.

Taking heed of lessons from the USA (both good and bad) has been part of Australia's constitutional history from the very start, and this would be a fitting continuation of that tradition.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Not that I can vote, but after the business of laughing at dead soldiers, this tax dodge thing has put me right off Trump. Where does he think money for the military and police come from? Sounds like he doesn't want to pay his fair share to me! Claiming kudos for increasing funding is the cream of the cherry cake, saying he's a great guy for giving them more from a pot he's proud not to contribute to! ????
billybaxter
Never proven.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Not that I can vote, but after the business of laughing at dead soldiers, this tax dodge thing has put me right off Trump. Where does he think money for the military and police come from? Sounds like he doesn't want to pay his fair share to me! Claiming kudos for increasing funding is the cream of the cherry cake, saying he's a great guy for giving them more from a pot he's proud not to contribute to! ????
Never proven.
don_dunstan
He could release his tax returns and prove the report obtained is baloney.

But he doesnt, I wonder why Wink
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Not that I can vote, but after the business of laughing at dead soldiers, this tax dodge thing has put me right off Trump. Where does he think money for the military and police come from? Sounds like he doesn't want to pay his fair share to me! Claiming kudos for increasing funding is the cream of the cherry cake, saying he's a great guy for giving them more from a pot he's proud not to contribute to! ????
Never proven.
don_dunstan
Yes, you're right, not proved beyond a shred of the proverbial doubt, so maybe we shouldn't bring these accusations of foul, ugly behaviour into the arena, but then, if we insisted on that then nothing would ever get done would it, everything would become like Bart Simpson lathering on about how we didn't see him with our bald eye, so we can't prove it. But in all honesty, the suspicion, the odour, the stench of tax avoidance and anti-military commentry around Trump is far, far stronger than the slight whiff of jackboot thuggery from the Chinese Government and the CCP, something you won't shut up about. Never proven either.

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