4204 & 42103 - Southern Aurora - November 2020

 
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

4204 & 42103 haul the Southern Aurora through Thornleigh on the "Golden West Rail Tour".
Enjoy,
BW




https://youtu.be/9M62C0ybVuA

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Nice work again BW. Do we know why the locos were in push/pull configuration?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

That’s a sizeable mud hole at Thornleigh, 3.30.

https://vintagerailjourneys.com.au/experiences/golden-west/
Had no idea tours were back on the scene.
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
VG - the tour encompasses a good deal of reversing, including places where there isn’t loop space to run around (Kandos). I imagine that Push-pull is more convenient at Werris Creek, Binnaway, Wallerawang and Kandos.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

Nice work again BW. Do we know why the locos were in push/pull configuration?
Valvegear
As SinickleBird said, a lot of reversing.

For example, this morning it detrained passengers at Hawkesbury River for a boat trip, then ran to Gosford to stage. This afternoon, it returned to Hawkesbury River to pick up by now sunburnt passengers and head to Paterson to stable for the night.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Excuse my Mexican ignorance but how long have these Vintage Rail Journeys folk been running these tours? When I first saw it I assumed that Cruise Express were back in action

I reckon we are set for an explosion in these luxury tours with lots of people unable to travel overseas for their annual holidays and $$$ burning a hole in their pockets.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I curious as from where the passenger rolling stock was sourced.
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
I curious as from where the passenger rolling stock was sourced.
michaelgm
I believe they are owned by THNSW, they did restore it.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The rolling stock is from the original Southern Aurora overnight Sydney- Melbourne and Melbourne-Sydney trains. Each left its city at 8 pm and arrived at its destination at 9 am next day.
The train was reserved sleeping berth only, and included Dining and Lounge cars. For some years, it also had one or two Motorail wagons attached.

Northbound was:
Melbourne dep 8.00
Albury 11.50-12.13
Junee 2.02- 2.09
Goulburn 5.55-6.02
Central 9.00

Southbound was:
Sydney dep 8.00
Goulburn 11.01-11.08
Junee 2.49-2.56
Albury 4.52-5.15
Melbourne 9.00

The Motorail wagon/s changed from leading to trailing vehicle/s at Albury.
Maximum consist was 16 vehicles for 731 tonnes.

I used it a number of times for business trips to Sydney and it was the ideal way to go. It landed me, showered, shaved and breakfasted, in the Sydney CBD at 9.00 am, and if I wanted to do that by flying I'd have been up at sparrow's to get a 7.00 flight out of Melbourne.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The rolling stock is from the original Southern Aurora overnight Sydney- Melbourne and Melbourne-Sydney trains. Each left its city at 8 pm and arrived at its destination at 9 am next day.
The train was reserved sleeping berth only, and included Dining and Lounge cars. For some years, it also had one or two Motorail wagons attached.

Northbound was:
Melbourne dep 8.00
Albury 11.50-12.13
Junee 2.02- 2.09
Goulburn 5.55-6.02
Central 9.00

Southbound was:
Sydney dep 8.00
Goulburn 11.01-11.08
Junee 2.49-2.56
Albury 4.52-5.15
Melbourne 9.00

The Motorail wagon/s changed from leading to trailing vehicle/s at Albury.
Maximum consist was 16 vehicles for 731 tonnes.

I used it a number of times for business trips to Sydney and it was the ideal way to go. It landed me, showered, shaved and breakfasted, in the Sydney CBD at 9.00 am, and if I wanted to do that by flying I'd have been up at sparrow's to get a 7.00 flight out of Melbourne.
Valvegear
A 'civilised' way to travel.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

I curious as from where the passenger rolling stock was sourced.
I believe they are owned by THNSW, they did restore it.
DCook
Greiner canned the Southern Aurora and the cars put up for auction but a lot ended up at Thirlmere. They should have been upgraded with vacuum toilets etc and remained in service. Thirlmere must be the only museum in the world with a complete Budd stainless steel set this size.
  The Inevitable Looney Station Staff

I curious as from where the passenger rolling stock was sourced.
I believe they are owned by THNSW, they did restore it.
Greiner canned the Southern Aurora and the cars put up for auction but a lot ended up at Thirlmere. They should have been upgraded with vacuum toilets etc and remained in service. Thirlmere must be the only museum in the world with a complete Budd stainless steel set this size.
nswtrains
A few years ago a large bequest was made to Thirlmere and the membership was asked to vote on how the funds should be spent.  Maintaining the Aurora cars was one of the options and they received funds.  
Until 2017 I think the Ringling Bros circus train was the only other stainless steel set operating, not sure?  I had seen it in Utah and Arizona and it was impressive.
So glad we still have the Aurora cars operating.  Great choice of motive power as well!
  The Inevitable Looney Station Staff

Looking at the video clip again; 2 lounge cars and 2 dining cars in the consist.  From the camera angle the roofline of the 42 class is the same shape and height as the roof line on the cars.  Classic, beautiful streamliner on the mainline.
Sorry Alco fans, a pair of 44s doesn't make the cut.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Excuse my Mexican ignorance but how long have these Vintage Rail Journeys folk been running these tours? When I first saw it I assumed that Cruise Express were back in action

I reckon we are set for an explosion in these luxury tours with lots of people unable to travel overseas for their annual holidays and $$$ burning a hole in their pockets.
BrentonGolding
Not long at all, this is there first. IIRC (Open to correction), this mob was birthed out of the sale of the Auroa cars from the Canberra railway museum auction and attempted to start under the name 'G'Day Rail'.
  The Inevitable Looney Station Staff

Excuse my Mexican ignorance but how long have these Vintage Rail Journeys folk been running these tours? When I first saw it I assumed that Cruise Express were back in action

I reckon we are set for an explosion in these luxury tours with lots of people unable to travel overseas for their annual holidays and $$$ burning a hole in their pockets.
Not long at all, this is there first. IIRC (Open to correction), this mob was birthed out of the sale of the Auroa cars from the Canberra railway museum auction and attempted to start under the name 'G'Day Rail'.
Dangersdan707
Are the Canberra cars included in the subject consist?
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
8 Cars were supplied by THNSW, the other 8 were made up of NSWGR Holdings cars (Vintage Rail Journeys)

The train was in Push Pull mode the majority of the time due to operational requirements requested by Network Owners.
  The Inevitable Looney Station Staff

8 Cars were supplied by THNSW, the other 8 were made up of NSWGR Holdings cars (Vintage Rail Journeys)

The train was in Push Pull mode the majority of the time due to operational requirements requested by Network Owners.
LowndesJ515
Thanks for the info.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
It would look so much better without the excessive use of your zoom. It made the Tangarra look ridiculous and it's stomach turning when the Aurora comes into the shot over the points.

Mike.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Two facets of Bevan's work that I like are his skilful use of the zoom lens, and his excellent selection of locations. In this case, the subject was the Aurora and to hell with how the Tangarra looked.

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