Welcome to Trump town

 
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what @Valvegear posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
Graham4405
He is either arguing with himself or contradicting himself. Exhibit a

Part 1

Were sick and tired of being told by progressive, large-city coastal dwellers that they were privileged simply because they are white.

Part 2

I didn't say it was because they were white, Michael - I just said that those people happen to be majority white.


I mean how can you argue with such epic logic?


Michael

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  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Let's face it, there will be no Trump 2020, only Biden 2020!
lsrailfan
...and no way he's come back in 2024.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what @Valvegear posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
He is either arguing with himself or contradicting himself. Exhibit a

Part 1

Were sick and tired of being told by progressive, large-city coastal dwellers that they were privileged simply because they are white.

Part 2

I didn't say it was because they were white, Michael - I just said that those people happen to be majority white.


I mean how can you argue with such epic logic?


Michael
mejhammers1

Coming from the same person who argued he was a Libertarian "minimal government intervention" in one thread and in the same day argued that he wanted massive government intervention in another thread?

Neverrrrr
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
I think we can all agree with Don here, when he says that there is a huge, massive electorate of disenchanted people, those who feel locked out and stigmatised by a lot of the modern fashions in politics. These people have a vote, a vote of the same value as an enlightened vegan in San Francisco who is up on all the fancy trends. The numbers are incredible. These people brought Trump to power, and may have done it again (although this now seems a far shot). They will still be around next time, and they will vote with force. The Left in their educated ponciness does itself a huge disservice with the constant snooty insult of these poor workers. Honest people who are sick of being on the downtrodden side, The gleefull joy being seen by some of the political spectrum will just harden the resolve of this electorate, and even draw more to them. I doubt Trump will be around next time (if he pulls the fire out of the pan now he won't be allowed a third term, if he doesn't then his 'perennial winner' image is tarnished) but he has paved a highway through the political landscqpe for others to follow, and they will. Whoever takes his mantlepiece will be in the box seat to take over from Biden, who, given his advancing age, cannot possibly think of a second term.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The Left in their educated ponciness does itself a huge disservice with the constant snooty insult of these poor workers.
billybaxter
Now make your mind up, billy.. .is "The Left" plural ("their ponciness") or singular ("does itself")? Then when you work that out, tell us where you get that crazy idea. (I'm glad you haven't forgotten "The Left"; we haven't heard the term for some time,  and I'm still waiting for you to tell me who they are or it is.).

I doubt Trump will be around next time (if he pulls the fire out of the pan now he won't be allowed a third term,
billybaxter
Why would he have a fire in the pan? And even if he pulls an alligator out of his sock, he's not allowed a third term anyway; nobody is.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Let's take the sentence 'Somebody left their sock on my doorstep'. Correct in the modern parlance is it not? Yet 'their' is singular, refering back to 'somebody'. The Left has done its hissy fit about the traditional form 'Somebody left his sock on the doorstep', so now we have 'their' acceptable as singular pronoun, or the clumsy his/her, which has to alternated with her/his to avoid oppression.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Let's take the sentence 'Somebody left their sock on my doorstep'.
"billybaxter"
Say, "Somebody left a sock on my doorstep". It's correct, and you're not making an assumption about the ownership of the sock.Laughing
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Interesting trend over the page. It looks like some of the Chump simps are starting to progress from denial to anger.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Indeed, malappropriation of sock ownership could cause uncalled for grief. How about 'the builder didn't do their job properly'. It would seem nonsensical to say 'the builder didn't do a job properly', as surely we are interested in the job at hand.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
I think we can all agree with Don here, when he says that there is a huge, massive electorate of disenchanted people, those who feel locked out and stigmatised by a lot of the modern fashions in politics. These people have a vote, a vote of the same value as an enlightened vegan in San Francisco who is up on all the fancy trends. The numbers are incredible. These people brought Trump to power, and may have done it again (although this now seems a far shot). They will still be around next time, and they will vote with force. The Left in their educated ponciness does itself a huge disservice with the constant snooty insult of these poor workers. Honest people who are sick of being on the downtrodden side, The gleefull joy being seen by some of the political spectrum will just harden the resolve of this electorate, and even draw more to them. I doubt Trump will be around next time (if he pulls the fire out of the pan now he won't be allowed a third term, if he doesn't then his 'perennial winner' image is tarnished) but he has paved a highway through the political landscqpe for others to follow, and they will. Whoever takes his mantlepiece will be in the box seat to take over from Biden, who, given his advancing age, cannot possibly think of a second term.
billybaxter
People want change from the usual political correctness and pandering. Nationalism around the world is growing and CV-19 probably just gave it a boost.

This is in part why Trump is popular as he is, but his popularity is targeted at the more easily fooled. In some regards the more right wing version of the dictators of the likes of Venezuela who were very popular with the poor and working class, despite the fact their inability to run a sustainable economy has sent them all bankrupt and they still cheered him on. In Russia you have Putin who appeals to the working class and rural class, most of which cannot read or have access to foreign media. Meanwhile most of the middle class in places like Moscow know he's destroying the economy by maintaining popularity through military spending pretending to save Russia from the USA.

I have no doubt we will see more with the policies of Trump, but what we won't see is people who are like Trump basically inarticulate. Trump is only there because he paid for it. If you want the top job and you are not a billionaire you need to have more common sense and be able to talk to people.

Had Trump had some tact and commonsense, he would still be President come Feb '21.

Republican and Trump lovers, love to use the term "the left" when referring to the Dem's as they are trying to infer the Dem's are Communists/Socialists, but in reality decades of Democratic President's have shown otherwise. 8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Obama and the US minimal wage workers are still some of the lowest paid in the developed world. Under Obama auto workers saw significant reductions in salaries.

There is however one major difference between Federal US and Federal Australian politics. In Australia the left leaning ALP have a history of budget deficits and debt and the right leaning LNP tend to reduce debt and run less deficits. In the USA it tends to be the opposite with Clinton the only two term US President in decades to run a budget surplus and reduce debt and the deficit was reducing under Obama. Not bad for a pair for of socialists.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what @Valvegear posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
He is either arguing with himself or contradicting himself. Exhibit a

Part 1

Were sick and tired of being told by progressive, large-city coastal dwellers that they were privileged simply because they are white.

Part 2

I didn't say it was because they were white, Michael - I just said that those people happen to be majority white.


I mean how can you argue with such epic logic?


Michael
mejhammers1
I realised after I wrote this that it wasn't the most eloquent thing I could have written and that some simpletons might get what I'm saying all mixed up. Come in spinner...

Let me rephrase that into a parable you might be able to understand: Kamala Harris has a lovely cartoon video out there somewhere (don't ask me to find it, you've got Google the same as I do) showing that white people are more privileged than black people and therefore that's why the government needs to strive for equality of outcomes.

How do you think that plays with poor white Americans?

What Kamala Harris should have been saying was that rural, poor and uneducated people don't get the same outcomes as other Americans and that's what she's stiving for. Instead she looks like she's singling out white people as the ones who have the exclusive domain of 'privilege' over black people.

Again, Michael - how do you think it plays when a poor white person sees a cartoon like that from the Vice President?

But nah, it's a "Time for healing" (tm).
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what @Valvegear posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
Graham4405
LOL since when has the title of a thread on Railpage actually meant something?
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what @Valvegear posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
Graham4405
Don is slippery as a bucket of eels. You can never pin him down.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I get the impression that some of the 'anti-racist' activism has gone from a rebuke of WHAT people do is wrong, to a rebuke or demeaning of WHO people are (based on skin colour).

I see deep problems with that approach if that's the case.  (Some of what goes on in some Universities and workplaces suggest it is).  And perhaps partially explains why even Trump (who is divisive and a loud mouthed tantrum thrower) saw a big increase in votes for him from certain minorities.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what @Valvegear posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
Don is slippery as a bucket of eels. You can never pin him down.
nswtrains
Yep  he sure is. He knows what he said and then says he is not eloquent, does not correct himself, accuses people of being simpletons and then comes out with some bs that he found from some conspiracy theory website. And all that time he hasn't mentioned Latinos or Asians or Blacks who have voted for Trump, he just concentrated on white people without college degrees. But hey he did not say only white people.

No point in explaining to him what Kamala Harris means. It is not just about economics.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Don is slippery as a bucket of eels. You can never pin him down.
nswtrains
You'd be completely bored without my presence here - there'd be nothing to get your angry on about.
Yep he sure is. He knows what he said and then says he is not eloquent, does not correct himself, accuses people of being simpletons and then comes out with some bs that he found from some conspiracy theory website. And all that time he hasn't mentioned Latinos or Asians or Blacks who have voted for Trump, he just concentrated on white people without college degrees. But hey he did not say only white people. No point in explaining to him what Kamala Harris means. It is not just about economics. Michael
mejhammers1
You won't answer my post directly, Michael, because you know full well what I'm saying is true.

And what you've said there is a mealy-mouthed cop-out; if they have no intention whatsoever of addressing economic inequality then what was the point of electing them apart from the fact that they're virtue-signalling on your favorite topic?
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
The Orange Imbecile's week long tantrum has continued today with him firing Chris Krebs, a Trump appointee and the director of the agency that vouched for the reliability of the 2020 election.

How long is it going to take before he or his followers wake up to how his incessant dummy spits are portraying the office of the President? Constantly throwing the toys out of the cot when the facts contradict his ranting.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
The Orange Imbecile's week long tantrum has continued today with him firing Chris Krebs, a Trump appointee and the director of the agency that vouched for the reliability of the 2020 election.

How long is it going to take before he or his followers wake up to how his incessant dummy spits are portraying the office of the President? Constantly throwing the toys out of the cot when the facts contradict his ranting.
Greensleeves
I think those who are being rapidly fired by Trump right now are having their future job prospects improved.


How long before his followers stop blaming the opposition (Biden) for winning the election?
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
We're trying to move the conversation on from Trump and you're still obsessively calling him a racist and blaming him for everything that's wrong.
Move it on? The thread is about Trump or hadn't you noticed? Too busy vilifying others, eh? Don't bother to reply.
So you came here to vilify for what you see as vilification? Good one...
On what planet is what [b]@Valvegear[/b] posted vilification? He simply clarified the purpose of this thread, which you seemed to have lost sight of... Please get that mental health check (or at least consult a dictionary)...
LOL since when has the title of a thread on Railpage actually meant something?
don_dunstan
I'll agree that that is often the case, but that wasn't the point. You accused @Valvegear of vilification and I explained that he hadn't vilified you at all. Stop changing the subject and apologise to @Valvegear already...
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Steve MARSHALL LAW in SA
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
You won't answer my post directly, Michael, because you know full well what I'm saying is true.
"don_dunstan"
How many times have we seen this self opinionated nonsense addressed to various people?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
You won't answer my post directly, Michael, because you know full well what I'm saying is true.
How many times have we seen this self opinionated nonsense addressed to various people?
Valvegear
One cannot compete with his legendary debating skills.

exhibit a

Me

No point in explaining to him what Kamala Harris means. It is not just about economics.

Him

If they have no intention whatsoever of addressing economic inequality then what was the point of electing them apart from the fact that they're virtue-signalling on your favorite topic?

If they have no intention whatsoever of addressing economic inequality, where did I say that?

Inserts something you did not say and argues on it. I did not say it has nothing to do with economics. Why would I engage with him when he is world class at arguing with himself? Apparently he is a psychologist too.

Let him wallow in his own self-importance.


Michael
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
From nine news:-
"Donald Trump has "terminated" his Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency after he continuously declared the US election was not rigged.
Chris Krebs, who runs the cyber arm of the Department of Homeland Security, had drawn the ire of Mr Trump after he used Twitter to tell people to ignore "wild and baseless claims...even if they're made by the president".
The President has refused to concede the race to President-elect Joe Biden.
Announcing the firing of Mr Krebs on Twitter, Mr Trump continued to insist without evidence the 2020 Election was mired in "massive improprieties and fraud".
"Therefore, effective immediately, Chris Krebs has been terminated as Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency," Mr Trump wrote.
Mr Krebs' remit included helping states secure their elections.
Last week Mr Trump also sacked Defence Secretary Mark T. Esper, again using the term "terminated" on Twitter.
In the lead-up to the election, Mr Krebs had often quietly disputed the President's repeated false claims about mail-in ballots but went out of his way to not get drawn into criticising his boss for spreading lies.
But in the days that have followed, Mr Krebs has adopted a more forceful approach regularly posting on Twitter - often with blaring red siren emojis - fact checks of the claims and conspiracy theories being pushed by Mr Trump, his allies and supporters around the country."

I wonder how much longer this absurd charade is going to continue.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

A brief invocation of the 25th Amendment (mentally unfit) must be up for serious discussion, provided he hasn’t fired the majority of the Cabinet. Congress’s holiday may be rudely interrupted.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
LOL since when has the title of a thread on Railpage actually meant something?
don_dunstan

Amazing to think it's well over 4 years since I started this thread.

I still wonder how many got that it is a play on words based on a UK kids TV puppet series?

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