Welcome to Biden Town

 
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
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Both the Democrats (woke stupidity) and Republicans (their defence of Trump and his criminal behaviour) have jumped the shark.  It's like watching the fall of Rome...
Carnot
It's only the beginning - Kamala Harris is the one to watch as she's driving the progressive activism in the new Biden government. There will be quotas for black people and women on corporate boards regardless of capability or experience, all sorts of business-hobbling goodies.

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  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
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Both the Democrats (woke stupidity) and Republicans (their defence of Trump and his criminal behaviour) have jumped the shark.  It's like watching the fall of Rome...
It's only the beginning - Kamala Harris is the one to watch as she's driving the progressive activism in the new Biden government. There will be quotas for black people and women on corporate boards regardless of capability or experience, all sorts of business-hobbling goodies.
don_dunstan
Any evidence? or just making $hit up again.
By the way, I just listened to Trumps hour long phone call (sheesh) what a deranged, moronic, clueless, incoherent,stupid fcuking imbecile. Surrounded by a bunch of drongos.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
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Both the Democrats (woke stupidity) and Republicans (their defence of Trump and his criminal behaviour) have jumped the shark.  It's like watching the fall of Rome...
It's only the beginning - Kamala Harris is the one to watch as she's driving the progressive activism in the new Biden government. There will be quotas for black people and women on corporate boards regardless of capability or experience, all sorts of business-hobbling goodies.
Any evidence? or just making $hit up again.
By the way, I just listened to Trumps hour long phone call (sheesh) what a deranged, moronic, clueless, incoherent,stupid fcuking imbecile. Surrounded by a bunch of drongos.
wobert
She has said repeatedly that she's aiming for equal outcomes or 'equity' - which means that she will enact 'positive discrimination' in order to achieve those goals - Reason.com.

And this thread is about the incoming government of Joe Biden, for the umpteeth time please stop dragging Donald Trump into it. Another one who can't let him go!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
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Both the Democrats (woke stupidity) and Republicans (their defence of Trump and his criminal behaviour) have jumped the shark.  It's like watching the fall of Rome...
It's only the beginning - Kamala Harris is the one to watch as she's driving the progressive activism in the new Biden government. There will be quotas for black people and women on corporate boards regardless of capability or experience, all sorts of business-hobbling goodies.
Any evidence? or just making $hit up again.
By the way, I just listened to Trumps hour long phone call (sheesh) what a deranged, moronic, clueless, incoherent,stupid fcuking imbecile. Surrounded by a bunch of drongos.
She has said repeatedly that she's aiming for equal outcomes or 'equity' - which means that she will enact 'positive discrimination' in order to achieve those goals - Reason.com.

And this thread is about the incoming government of Joe Biden, for the umpteeth time please stop dragging Donald Trump into it. Another one who can't let him go!
don_dunstan
For the umpeeth time you have no say in which direction a thread goes or dosen't go, you can bring anything you like into a thread, as long as it is within reason, so stop playing RP Moderator will you.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Hey Don, the other Don persists on dragging his loser smeg into the headlines whilst he still perceives relevance. Tik tok.

His thread will be concluded shortly.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
For the umpeeth time you have no say in which direction a thread goes or dosen't go, you can bring anything you like into a thread, as long as it is within reason, so stop playing RP Moderator will you.
lsrailfan
This is a thread about Joe Biden. There is also a thread open about Donald Trump and it's active right now.

The Trump era is over. That's exactly what a lot of people wanted. He's not relevant to the future of the United States any longer - he won't be President by the end of this month and I'm not interested in talking about him any more. I want to talk about the bright new future that the free world has under Mister Magoo and his side-kick Lady Equity.

You honestly think that's not a fair request - why?
Hey Don, the other Don persists on dragging his loser smeg into the headlines whilst he still perceives relevance. Tik tok. His thread will be concluded shortly.
michaelgm
That era is over much to the chagrin of the numerous posters here who want to keep dragging his corpse around because they can't think of anything else to do. Let's talk about the future - not the past.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
For the umpeeth time you have no say in which direction a thread goes or dosen't go, you can bring anything you like into a thread, as long as it is within reason, so stop playing RP Moderator will you.
This is a thread about Joe Biden. There is also a thread open about Donald Trump and it's active right now.

The Trump era is over. That's exactly what a lot of people wanted. He's not relevant to the future of the United States any longer - he won't be President by the end of this month and I'm not interested in talking about him any more. I want to talk about the bright new future that the free world has under Mister Magoo and his side-kick Lady Equity.

You honestly think that's not a fair request - why?
Hey Don, the other Don persists on dragging his loser smeg into the headlines whilst he still perceives relevance. Tik tok. His thread will be concluded shortly.
That era is over much to the chagrin of the numerous posters here who want to keep dragging his corpse around because they can't think of anything else to do. Let's talk about the future - not the past.
don_dunstan
Because as I said you can bring anything you like into a thread and discuss it within reason, it dosen't matter what the title of the thread is.

2nd point, but this is happening with Trump now, so we can discuss it, end of story!
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Because as I said you can bring anything you like into a thread and discuss it within reason, it dosen't matter what the title of the thread is.

2nd point, but this is happening with Trump now, so we can discuss it, end of story!
lsrailfan
I'll have to remember that "title doesn't matter" caveat - it's the catch-all that will be handy whenever we wander off topic.

Incidentally a British judge has just ruled the Julian Assange cannot be extradited to the United States to face any charges there. Interesting - not that I was particularly a fan of Assange but I thought Trump could have pardoned him as one of his last acts as President (why not) if he happened to get extradited. But it's not happening now anyway.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

There the chosen one goes again. Positive Discrimination is about redressing the balance. Women and Black women especially have been discriminated when applying for positions. Yet another one who thinks only white men should hold high positions.

Yeah Kamala Harris is left of Donald Trump but that does not make her progressive. Marine Le Pen is left of Donald Trump!


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
There the chosen one goes again. Positive Discrimination is about redressing the balance. Women and Black women especially have been discriminated when applying for positions. Yet another one who thinks only white men should hold high positions.

Yeah Kamala Harris is left of Donald Trump but that does not make her progressive. Marine Le Pen is left of Donald Trump!


Michael
mejhammers1
Michael, what you're saying here is that people who are not necessarily the best person for the job - who haven't worked as hard, who are not as qualified or talented - should be selected over other people who are - just because of their race or gender. And that you're going to mandate that in both public and private sector organisations in order to achieve quotas that you feel are correct.

Right?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

There goes the chosen one again assuming that the hardest working, best qualified and most talented are always white men. Says it all, really.

No one wants to see unqualified persons taking positions they shouldn't and that is not what Ms Harris is about. I know it goes against the chosen one's grain that a woman of colour is Vice president elect.

Ms Harris is saying is that if there is a for e.g. white male and a black female with equal qualifications, talent and experience, employers will be encouraged to offer the position to the black woman because that community has been disadvantaged, in an effort to redress the inbalance.

But of course the chosen does not believe in equality of opportunity.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
There goes the chosen one again assuming that the hardest working, best qualified and most talented are always white men. Says it all, really.
mejhammers1
Where did I say that?
No one wants to see unqualified persons taking positions they shouldn't and that is not what Ms Harris is about. I know it goes against the chosen one's grain that a woman of colour is Vice president elect. Ms Harris is saying is that if there is a for e.g. white male and a black female with equal qualifications, talent and experience, employers will be encouraged to offer the position to the black woman because that community has been disadvantaged, in an effort to redress the inbalance. But of course the chosen does not believe in equality of opportunity. Michael
mejhammers1
Michael, that is EXACTLY what equity in outcomes is about - its about quotas and putting people into positions of power and authority because of their race or gender, not because of their talent, education or achievement.

The fact that you've tried to twist this simple observation into my being racist is borderline slanderous - you either don't understand the system that Kamala Harris wants to implement or you believe that talent and hard work counts for nothing when you should be promoted just because you're in a minority. You just think that this system will work for you - but it might not. You might work really hard but be passed over for someone who is more 'diverse' than you are - mull over that.

Quotas destroy productivity - Sweden had to abandon that experiment because it was wreaking private enterprise. The fact that the United States is re-trying a social policy that has tried and failed many times before says volumes about how bloody-minded and dogmatic Kamala Harris actually is.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Kamala Harris is deranged:
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Turns out she stole that quote from an interview Martin Luther-King did with Playboy Magazine in 1965:

They're nothing if consistent, Biden/Harris - they both steal stuff from other people and don't attribute it.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

The chosen one fails to recognise that very qualified and talented women and people of colour have been passed over for white males and that is simply fact. Also that Kamala Harris is not just talking about racial minorities.

I have explained that no one wants to see unqualified applicants taking positions they are not suited to and I can say that until I am blue in the face and Junior Andrew Bolt here will never hear it. It is about redress. Minorities have been discriminated in the job market and that is simply fact.

The chosen one can stop being a massive snowflake and a victim for once. If he thinks I think he is racist that is fine, meh.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The chosen one fails to recognise that very qualified and talented women and people of colour have been passed over for white males and that is simply fact. Also that Kamala Harris is not just talking about racial minorities.

I have explained that no one wants to see unqualified applicants taking positions they are not suited to and I can say that until I am blue in the face and Junior Andrew Bolt here will never hear it. It is about redress. Minorities have been discriminated in the job market and that is simply fact.

The chosen one can stop being a massive snowflake and a victim for once. If he thinks I think he is racist that is fine, meh.


Michael
mejhammers1
Two wrongs do not equal a 'right', Michael. What you're saying is that laws against discrimination aren't enough and that people with talent, education and hard work behind them need to be kept out of positions they're suited for in favor of people who have done nothing to deserve those positions other than be in a minority. And you're letting your hatred of white men slip there, it's not just white men who'll be displaced by this:

You think you're okay because you're black - but you'll end up getting passed over for a peg-legged lesbian dwarf with a mental illness... "Sorry but we need to get our legislated quotas up". And then you'll cry "UNFAIR!".
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

You know the chosen one isn't all white men. I cannot pinpoint to one statement where I have made racist remarks about white men. But if it makes him sleep well at night.

I will repeat again so that the chosen one understands;

No one wants to see unqualified applicants taking positions they are not qualified for.

Again, the chosen one seems to be implying that only white men have talent, a good education and work hard. And this is why many posters choose not to engage because he cannot even argue honestly. He is either stating things you have not said or arguing with himself.

Or comes out with a BS analogy.

ho, Hum


Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Massive facepalm moment as Democrats go all-in with gender neutral language and make absolute idiots of themselves:



Both the Democrats (woke stupidity) and Republicans (their defence of Trump and his criminal behaviour) have jumped the shark.  It's like watching the fall of Rome...
Carnot
Wow, so Democrats talking in Gender Neutral Terms, which is not the most important thing, but hurts no one is the equivalence of the Republicans engaging in Voter Suppression, ginning up its base to kidnap an elected official, refusing to accept the election result and basically committing treason to try and get the results overturned and rank incompetence in regards to the Corona Virus Pandemic, and so on.

Wow you have it really bad Carnot. I mean really there is nothing to see.

Ever thought of being an Aussie correspondent for the Daily Mail?


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
You know the chosen one isn't all white men. I cannot pinpoint to one statement where I have made racist remarks about white men. But if it makes him sleep well at night.
mejhammers1
You have a chip on your shoulder visible from space.
I will repeat again so that the chosen one understands; No one wants to see unqualified applicants taking positions they are not qualified for.
mejhammers1
That's exactly what will happen under equity legislation - do you seriously not understand that part of it?
Again, the chosen one seems to be implying that only white men have talent, a good education and work hard.
mejhammers1
Nah again, reading stuff into what I said that isn't there. I said anyone (including you) who was talented, educated and worked hard could be passed by for someone who was more 'deserving' than you were by simple fact of the quota system.
And this is why many posters choose not to engage because he cannot even argue honestly. He is either stating things you have not said or arguing with himself.
mejhammers1
No, that's YOU Michael - on both counts. And as if prove how much you hate anyone who disagrees with your bigoted world view you come out with this pearler:
Ever thought of being an Aussie correspondent for the Daily Mail?
mejhammers1
"A-woman" isn't a proper word and you go to extraordinary lengths to defend that wrong, patently stupid attempt at appeasement.

But what else is new?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

What else is new that the chosen one has a massive hissy fit with anyone who disagrees with him. The victim mentality.

He cannot with any surety state that everyone who is a minority will be unqualified for the job they are applying for. He cant. And he knows that Ms Harris is not advocating plucking someone from a minority who is unqualified and put them in a plumb job.  

It cant be helped that the chosen one sees any advocacy for black and brown people as bigoted. Just want the same opportunity that exists for white people that's all. Nothing more, nothing less. That is just not happening in many cases in the US.

By the way, just awaiting for any examples of bigotry the chosen one can highlight from any statements I have made.

Again if the chosen one thinks that recognising that minorities are at a disadvantage is having a massive chip on their shoulder then guilty as charged.

If the chosen one does not believe that disadvantage exists, ponder the following, as regards to pay;

NWLC's analysis, based on the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey found that black women with a bachelor's degree were typically paid $46,694—just under what white, non-Hispanic men with only a high school degree were paid ($46,729). Black women had to earn a master's degree to make slightly more ($56,072) than white, non-Hispanic men with just an associate degree ($54,620).

But that's just bigoted isn't it? oh chosen one.


Michael
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
What else is new that the chosen one has a massive hissy fit with anyone who disagrees with him. The victim mentality.

He cannot with any surety state that everyone who is a minority will be unqualified for the job they are applying for. He cant. And he knows that Ms Harris is not advocating plucking someone from a minority who is unqualified and put them in a plumb job.  
mejhammers1
Michael, that is exactly what equity in outcomes is all about. I'm used to having to deal with people on this board who don't understand concepts but frankly I'd always rated you as someone who didn't need things explaining down to fine levels of detail like this.

What they want is for black women (for example) to represented in management and board level positions in private enterprise (again, for example) at the same percentages that they occur in the population not taking into account that women take time off the workforce to have children or that for whatever reason they may not be a group that chooses corporate careers. Let's pick a number out of the air and say that black women represent 6% of the US population.

So the solution - a rather blunt solution - is to mandate companies six percent of their management and board positions reserved for black women ONLY. Regardless of how talented, how experienced or educated possible candidates are - those private sector companies that are mandated MUST employ black women in six percent of those positions.

I can't believe that you don't understand this basic concept about equity in outcomes. Someone who is more suited to the position is bumped in favor of someone who is simply in the category that has to be made up for or 'represented' - that's what its all about.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
It's looking exceptionally good for the Democrats to pick up the two Senate seats in Georgia.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/senate-control-within-democrats-grasp-as-georgia-races-go-down-to-wire-20210106-p56s3f.html

This is the icing on the incoming Biden Presidency cake.

Exceptionally good news for progressive politics and consigns for good, the Trump years to the compost bin of history.

Mike.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Incidentally a British judge has just ruled the Julian Assange cannot be extradited to the United States to face any charges there. Interesting - not that I was particularly a fan of Assange but I thought Trump could have pardoned him as one of his last acts as President (why not) if he happened to get extradited. But it's not happening now anyway.
don_dunstan
The whole thing is nothing more than a witch hunt. The US is only embarrassing itself further by continuing this BS, Sweden saw the light, time for the US to follow.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
What else is new that the chosen one has a massive hissy fit with anyone who disagrees with him. The victim mentality.

He cannot with any surety state that everyone who is a minority will be unqualified for the job they are applying for. He cant. And he knows that Ms Harris is not advocating plucking someone from a minority who is unqualified and put them in a plumb job.  
Michael, that is exactly what equity in outcomes is all about. I'm used to having to deal with people on this board who don't understand concepts but frankly I'd always rated you as someone who didn't need things explaining down to fine levels of detail like this.

What they want is for black women (for example) to represented in management and board level positions in private enterprise (again, for example) at the same percentages that they occur in the population not taking into account that women take time off the workforce to have children or that for whatever reason they may not be a group that chooses corporate careers. Let's pick a number out of the air and say that black women represent 6% of the US population.

So the solution - a rather blunt solution - is to mandate companies six percent of their management and board positions reserved for black women ONLY. Regardless of how talented, how experienced or educated possible candidates are - those private sector companies that are mandated MUST employ black women in six percent of those positions.

I can't believe that you don't understand this basic concept about equity in outcomes. Someone who is more suited to the position is bumped in favor of someone who is simply in the category that has to be made up for or 'represented' - that's what its all about.
don_dunstan
While I don't like quota's something needs to be done in some parts of the US. We had and in some cases still have unofficial quota's in Australia and it worked to invoke the change that was needed.

Yes it shouldn't be used to a leverage to to force people into jobs they are not suited to do. Because on this when I was at Boyne I heard smug Manager state that a former 8y GM of the late 90's had equal male female numbers in Manager level, yet 10 years later after he left it was 25% 75%. He tried to say the following GM's were not as progressive,  really, this is the 2000's. Most of the GM's started school after Australia had long started equal opportunity? No the realistic answer is that women make up roughly 25% of the uni degrees that feed into these roles. So yes at 25% the industry has achieved balance based on the available talent pool.

Now I wonder if the same focus is applied the fields of teaching and nursing in achieving a 50:50 work force?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Psychology and social work is 90% women - sometimes even more. Should quotas apply where men are grossly under-represented or is there are reason why that shouldn't occur?

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