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  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

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So we'll see how 'incitement to violence' floats in court - but its really impossible to imagine that they'll succeed. And with a week to go in his Presidency what's the point?
don_dunstan
It won’t have to float in court, just the Senate. Trump will need the support of 34 out of the 100 senators.

The impeachment process can continue after he’s left office. If he’s impeached and convicted, the ‘point’ would be that:
  • he can’t pardon himself. It’s yet to be proved he has that power anyway.
  • his Former Presidents benefits, such as a pension, would be revoked, except Secret Service protection. Hopefully that would include the Mr President courtesy title.
  • he could, by a simple Senate majority (see below), be barred from public office.

  • A second impeachment could serve as a means of keeping him in check for the remainder of his term. The Republicans could use the threat of conviction to prevent a repeat of his Jan 6 efforts at the Inauguration. How much Republican support he’ll have after he has left office and passed his use by date is another factor. Although not a 2/3 majority, the Senate will be controlled by the Democrats. Unlike Nixon who had Gerald Ford, Trump won’t have the benefit of a succeeding sympathetic Republican president.


    PS: Ashli Babbit, the woman who was shot, attended the Trump rally.

    “… So let’s have trial by combat! …………” – Rudy Giuliani

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      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
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    So we'll see how 'incitement to violence' floats in court - but its really impossible to imagine that they'll succeed. And with a week to go in his Presidency what's the point?
    It won’t have to float in court, just the Senate. Trump will need the support of 34 out of the 100 senators.

    The impeachment process can continue after he’s left office. If he’s impeached and convicted, the ‘point’ would be that:
  • he can’t pardon himself. It’s yet to be proved he has that power anyway.
  • his Former Presidents benefits, such as a pension, would be revoked, except Secret Service protection. Hopefully that would include the Mr President courtesy title.
  • he could, by a simple Senate majority (see below), be barred from public office.

  • A second impeachment could serve as a means of keeping him in check for the remainder of his term. The Republicans could use the threat of conviction to prevent a repeat of his Jan 6 efforts at the Inauguration. How much Republican support he’ll have after he has left office and passed his use by date is another factor. Although not a 2/3 majority, the Senate will be controlled by the Democrats. Unlike Nixon who had Gerald Ford, Trump won’t have the benefit of a succeeding sympathetic Republican president.


    PS: Ashli Babbit, the woman who was shot, attended the Trump rally.

    “… So let’s have trial by combat! …………” – Rudy Giuliani
    kitchgp
    "So we can Verify, impeachment alone wouldn’t strip President Trump of any of these benefits, he would also have to be convicted. Our experts say the President gets to keep his security detail."

    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/if-president-trump-is-impeached-he-forfeits-his-pension-travel-fund-security-detail-is-that-true/65-3d189015-2897-46a1-8ac7-aa923d243cf1
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
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    So we'll see how 'incitement to violence' floats in court - but its really impossible to imagine that they'll succeed. And with a week to go in his Presidency what's the point?
    It won’t have to float in court, just the Senate. Trump will need the support of 34 out of the 100 senators.

    The impeachment process can continue after he’s left office. If he’s impeached and convicted, the ‘point’ would be that:
  • he can’t pardon himself. It’s yet to be proved he has that power anyway.
  • his Former Presidents benefits, such as a pension, would be revoked, except Secret Service protection. Hopefully that would include the Mr President courtesy title.
  • he could, by a simple Senate majority (see below), be barred from public office.

  • A second impeachment could serve as a means of keeping him in check for the remainder of his term. The Republicans could use the threat of conviction to prevent a repeat of his Jan 6 efforts at the Inauguration. How much Republican support he’ll have after he has left office and passed his use by date is another factor. Although not a 2/3 majority, the Senate will be controlled by the Democrats. Unlike Nixon who had Gerald Ford, Trump won’t have the benefit of a succeeding sympathetic Republican president.


    PS: Ashli Babbit, the woman who was shot, attended the Trump rally.

    “… So let’s have trial by combat! …………” – Rudy Giuliani
    kitchgp
    "So we can Verify, impeachment alone wouldn’t strip President Trump of any of these benefits, he would also have to be convicted. Our experts say the President gets to keep his security detail."

    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/if-president-trump-is-impeached-he-forfeits-his-pension-travel-fund-security-detail-is-that-true/65-3d189015-2897-46a1-8ac7-aa923d243cf1
      ANR Chief Commissioner

    Don't the dems realise than any further action against Trump is futile? It is adding to his anti establishment drain the swamp mantra. The orange one is due to leave the WH quietly in a few days and any attempt to force him out or block a future tilt will work against what sleeepy Joe has supposedly being trying to do - which is unify the country. i.e. To help the deplorables get along swimmingly, with antifa.

    The swamp has now risen to new depths.
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    The fact is that some of those people that stormed the Capitol Building were far right wing extremists intent on creating havoc and carnage, why else were IED'S found on the premises, one person was pictured in the chamber itself with full tactical gear on.
    Yeah its just like the burning of the Reichstag isn't it.
    don_dunstan
    Inconveniently for you, a large number of them have been positively identified from the many still and video images from the failed coup attempt.
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    Don't the dems realise than any further action against Trump is futile? It is adding to his anti establishment drain the swamp mantra. The orange one is due to leave the WH quietly in a few days and any attempt to force him out or block a future tilt will work against what sleeepy Joe has supposedly being trying to do - which is unify the country. i.e. To help the deplorables get along swimmingly, with antifa.

    The swamp has now risen to new depths.
    ANR
    This is the ideal way forward for everyone.

    Trump and his offspring stay away from politics, in return for which the impeachment charges and criminal charges get parked rather than progressed further.

    If that breaks down and the legal processes are onerous, there's always the option of a 2nd Amendment solution.
      The Vinelander Minister for Railways

    Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
    Why impeaching Trump is the only sensible option.

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/six-hours-of-paralysis-inside-trumps-failure-to-act-after-a-mob-stormed-the-capitol-20210112-p56tmh.html

    Trump is utterly implicated now.

    Mike.
      The Vinelander Minister for Railways

    Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
    Don't the dems realise than any further action against Trump is futile? It is adding to his anti establishment drain the swamp mantra. The orange one is due to leave the WH quietly in a few days and any attempt to force him out or block a future tilt will work against what sleeepy Joe has supposedly being trying to do - which is unify the country. i.e. To help the deplorables get along swimmingly, with antifa.

    The swamp has now risen to new depths.
    ANR

    Utter rubbish...

    Another Fox News fan.

    Mike.
      michaelgm Chief Commissioner

    Hey Dons, know when to hold, know when to fold.



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo
      Carnot Minister for Railways

    Principal Counsel for PBS has just resigned after being busted in a sting operation where he wants the children of Trump voters sent to re-education camps:
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    The madmen of America just keep emerging from the woodwork.
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Deutsche Bank will no longer do business with Donald Trump, New York Times reports

    According to the New York Times, Deutsche Bank, the president’s largest lender, will no longer do business with Donald Trump, his family and his personal businesses. Reports also revealed that Trump currently owes Deutsche Bank more than $300 million, which is due in the next few years.
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    Principal Counsel for PBS has just resigned after being busted in a sting operation where he wants the children of Trump voters sent to re-education camps:
    Carnot

    Spreading far-right tweets from the scum of the earth again Carnot?  

    Geez mate, you've got serious issues.
      Carnot Minister for Railways

    Principal Counsel for PBS has just resigned after being busted in a sting operation where he wants the children of Trump voters sent to re-education camps:

    Spreading far-right tweets from the scum of the earth again Carnot?  

    Geez mate, you've got serious issues.
    bingley hall
    Really?

    It's reported in the Washington Post:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/pbs-lawyer-resigns-after-being-caught-in-veritas-sting/2021/01/12/f8bbb4f6-5521-11eb-acc5-92d2819a1ccb_story.html  

    How would you feel if a senior staff member of the ABC said that the children who voted for ScoMo should be sent to re-education camps against their parents will?  That's the problem - this superiority complex and bias among the Left and calling those they disagree with "deplorables" and "scum of the earth".  It's pathetic and arrogant.
      don_dunstan Dr Beeching

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Yep, here is the next, now it's your job to try and convince us here that there WEREN'T some far right extremists that stormed the building, because the fact is, there were!
    lsrailfan
    Nah it's not up to me to prove anything. The building was shut for an hour - nothing happened. End-of-story.
      don_dunstan Dr Beeching

    Location: Adelaide proud
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    So we'll see how 'incitement to violence' floats in court - but its really impossible to imagine that they'll succeed. And with a week to go in his Presidency what's the point?
    It won’t have to float in court, just the Senate. Trump will need the support of 34 out of the 100 senators.

    The impeachment process can continue after he’s left office. If he’s impeached and convicted, the ‘point’ would be that:
  • he can’t pardon himself. It’s yet to be proved he has that power anyway.
  • his Former Presidents benefits, such as a pension, would be revoked, except Secret Service protection. Hopefully that would include the Mr President courtesy title.
  • he could, by a simple Senate majority (see below), be barred from public office.

  • A second impeachment could serve as a means of keeping him in check for the remainder of his term. The Republicans could use the threat of conviction to prevent a repeat of his Jan 6 efforts at the Inauguration. How much Republican support he’ll have after he has left office and passed his use by date is another factor. Although not a 2/3 majority, the Senate will be controlled by the Democrats. Unlike Nixon who had Gerald Ford, Trump won’t have the benefit of a succeeding sympathetic Republican president.


    PS: Ashli Babbit, the woman who was shot, attended the Trump rally.

    “… So let’s have trial by combat! …………” – Rudy Giuliani
    kitchgp
    You can almost count the minutes left until Biden is sworn in. What's the point?

    There is none.
      don_dunstan Dr Beeching

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Don't the dems realise than any further action against Trump is futile? It is adding to his anti establishment drain the swamp mantra. The orange one is due to leave the WH quietly in a few days and any attempt to force him out or block a future tilt will work against what sleeepy Joe has supposedly being trying to do - which is unify the country. i.e. To help the deplorables get along swimmingly, with antifa.

    The swamp has now risen to new depths.
    ANR
    This is my primary concern too - the Democrats are doing nothing to embrace the people that they alienated four years ago. If anything they're reinforcing the fact that they've been dealt out of the game by telling them that they're still just as deplorable as they were in 2016. Biden et al are doing nothing to promote the 'healing' agenda they promised.

    And your other point is spot on too - the extremists are all getting along with each other just swimmingly. The Democrats say they're not worried about Antifa but that thing is very much real and they'll riot again when they feel the time is right because they know a Democrat-led government will be too frightened of them to do anything. Sometime in the next four years they'll find another George Floyd trigger and do it again - the fact that they have a 'friendly' President will not make a jot of difference.
      don_dunstan Dr Beeching

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Why impeaching Trump is the only sensible option.

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/six-hours-of-paralysis-inside-trumps-failure-to-act-after-a-mob-stormed-the-capitol-20210112-p56tmh.html

    Trump is utterly implicated now.

    Mike.
    The Vinelander
    You seriously read Fairfax papers? No wonder you're so ignorant.
    Utter rubbish... Another Fox News fan. Mike.
    The Vinelander
    That's your standard go-to if anyone doesn't agree with your cosseted little view of the world.
      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    Yep, here is the next, now it's your job to try and convince us here that there WEREN'T some far right extremists that stormed the building, because the fact is, there were!
    Nah it's not up to me to prove anything. The building was shut for an hour - nothing happened. End-of-story.
    don_dunstan
    Yeah, it is up to you, the building was infiltrated by far Right radicals, end of story.
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Yep, here is the next, now it's your job to try and convince us here that there WEREN'T some far right extremists that stormed the building, because the fact is, there were!
    Nah it's not up to me to prove anything. The building was shut for an hour - nothing happened. End-of-story.
    don_dunstan
    Don once again quoting from his ar$e not facts.

    Actual time line was posted previously Don, time to update yourself to the real world.
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    ……………………………………………………………………………………..

    So we'll see how 'incitement to violence' floats in court - but its really impossible to imagine that they'll succeed. And with a week to go in his Presidency what's the point?
    It won’t have to float in court, just the Senate. Trump will need the support of 34 out of the 100 senators.

    The impeachment process can continue after he’s left office. If he’s impeached and convicted, the ‘point’ would be that:
  • he can’t pardon himself. It’s yet to be proved he has that power anyway.
  • his Former Presidents benefits, such as a pension, would be revoked, except Secret Service protection. Hopefully that would include the Mr President courtesy title.
  • he could, by a simple Senate majority (see below), be barred from public office.

  • A second impeachment could serve as a means of keeping him in check for the remainder of his term. The Republicans could use the threat of conviction to prevent a repeat of his Jan 6 efforts at the Inauguration. How much Republican support he’ll have after he has left office and passed his use by date is another factor. Although not a 2/3 majority, the Senate will be controlled by the Democrats. Unlike Nixon who had Gerald Ford, Trump won’t have the benefit of a succeeding sympathetic Republican president.


    PS: Ashli Babbit, the woman who was shot, attended the Trump rally.

    “… So let’s have trial by combat! …………” – Rudy Giuliani
    You can almost count the minutes left until Biden is sworn in. What's the point?

    There is none.
    don_dunstan
    because he doesn't deserve to be funded by the taxpayer for the rest of his life.
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Why impeaching Trump is the only sensible option.

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/six-hours-of-paralysis-inside-trumps-failure-to-act-after-a-mob-stormed-the-capitol-20210112-p56tmh.html

    Trump is utterly implicated now.

    Mike.
    You seriously read Fairfax papers? No wonder you're so ignorant.
    Utter rubbish... Another Fox News fan. Mike.
    That's your standard go-to if anyone doesn't agree with your cosseted little view of the world.
    don_dunstan
    You should talk, you haven't managed to post one thing correct on this issue in the last week including the basics of distance and time framed to walk 2km and your never ending crap about the time frame of events, despite it all being published in various sources, including the FBI.

    Despite your previous statement you were no longer interested in DT and this thread, you keep backing your hero.
      don_dunstan Dr Beeching

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Yep, here is the next, now it's your job to try and convince us here that there WEREN'T some far right extremists that stormed the building, because the fact is, there were!
    Nah it's not up to me to prove anything. The building was shut for an hour - nothing happened. End-of-story.
    Yeah, it is up to you, the building was infiltrated by far Right radicals, end of story.
    lsrailfan
    What difference does it make? Did Trump directly give them the order to storm the Capitol Building? No.
    Don once again quoting from his ar$e not facts. Actual time line was posted previously Don, time to update yourself to the real world.
    RTT_Rules
    LOL and yet despite pages of screed you still weren't able to prove the smoking gun with Donald Trump. Back to the stupid corner for you, RTT_Rules.
    because he doesn't deserve to be funded by the taxpayer for the rest of his life.
    RTT_Rules
    You're not even a US citizen, what gives you the right to arbitrarily decide that?
    You should talk, you haven't managed to post one thing correct on this issue in the last week including the basics of distance and time framed to walk 2km and your never ending crap about the time frame of events, despite it all being published in various sources, including the FBI. Despite your previous statement you were no longer interested in DT and this thread, you keep backing your hero.
    RTT_Rules
    Because simpletons like you keep screaming your demands that I come back here and say something.

    If I don't come back here and say something I'm called all sorts of names and told I'm a cop-out - but if I do come back here then I'm told I should go away. I can't win - so I might as well stay here and give my two cents.

    Incidentally everything in your explanation of how Trump was responsible for the storming of the Capitol Building was complete and unadulterated partisan vomit. Like Mike you just regurgitate the stuff that you read on the ABC or on Fairfax and don't question it because you lack the intellectual curiosity to think for yourself.

    You're a fool who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
      sydneyshortnorth Train Controller

    Location: On the 1 in 40.
    Puzzling that someone so supposedly omniscient can't see the trap he's blundering into!

    Steve
      mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

    America's democracy is under attack from Vanilla Isis and al cracker.


    Michael

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