UGL wins NSW rail network management contract

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 15 Feb 2021 08:06
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Note the change to UGL away from the current John Holland System.

This will also involve replacing the signal control centre and moving to a new train management system.  Interesting times.

UGL wins NSW rail network management contract

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  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Some figures are eye watering, more 3000km of unused railway!
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
So much duplicate cost - this contract (like the JHCRN one) is a waste.

If they had split the contract between an operations contract and a maintenance contract, someone like ARTC or Sydney Trains with existing control capabilities could easily and far more cheaply and seamlessly operate the network with less duplication.

I wonder if ARTC did apply?
  BigLuke Beginner

Location: Dubbo, NSW, Australia
So much duplicate cost - this contract (like the JHCRN one) is a waste.

If they had split the contract between an operations contract and a maintenance contract, someone like ARTC or Sydney Trains with existing control capabilities could easily and far more cheaply and seamlessly operate the network with less duplication.

I wonder if ARTC did apply?
james.au
ARTC were one of the original bidders but were eliminated after the first round on cost grounds.

I think you'll find there's actually very little duplicate cost in a contract like this. Both John Holland UGL's models are based on the ARTC models and they are very lean and very cheap - particularly in comparison to Sydney Trains. I guarantee you would more than double the cost if you had Sydney Trains run it.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
So much duplicate cost - this contract (like the JHCRN one) is a waste.

If they had split the contract between an operations contract and a maintenance contract, someone like ARTC or Sydney Trains with existing control capabilities could easily and far more cheaply and seamlessly operate the network with less duplication.

I wonder if ARTC did apply?
ARTC were one of the original bidders but were eliminated after the first round on cost grounds.

I think you'll find there's actually very little duplicate cost in a contract like this. Both John Holland UGL's models are based on the ARTC models and they are very lean and very cheap - particularly in comparison to Sydney Trains. I guarantee you would more than double the cost if you had Sydney Trains run it.
BigLuke
For all the traffic that these lines manage, the ARTC or ST control rooms and standard setters/monitors could more than accomodate the work.

Yes there is a fixed component related to the maintenance of the track, and that the CRN has probably got the requisite size to acehvie decent economies of sale (and more), but the duplicate standards, control centres and ongoing staffing for this is what im talking about.

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