Western Sydney Freight Line a highlight of Infrastructure list: ARA

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 05 Mar 2021 09:46
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
The introduction of inland rail between Melbourne and Brisbane will surely reduce the number of freight services transiting the Sydney area and therefore this project is highly unlikely to be required.

Money would better be spent on Brisbane SG and taking Inland Rail North of Brisbane as SG.

Melbourne could do with some funding for rail terminals and I can also see value in Mount Gambier and Portland Line upgrades ahead of this stupid investment.

Western Sydney Freight Line a highlight of Infrastructure list: ARA

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  Bulbous Deputy Commissioner

This freight line and the Inland Rail are not related, don't conflate the two.

Cheers,

Matt.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
And again, another thread started by yourself when an already existing thread is available.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

And again, another thread started by yourself when an already existing thread is available.
Jack Le Lievre

I don't think there is a thread for this topic.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

The introduction of inland rail between Melbourne and Brisbane will surely reduce the number of freight services transiting the Sydney area and therefore this project is highly unlikely to be required.

Money would better be spent on Brisbane SG and taking Inland Rail North of Brisbane as SG.

Melbourne could do with some funding for rail terminals and I can also see value in Mount Gambier and Portland Line upgrades ahead of this stupid investment.

Western Sydney Freight Line a highlight of Infrastructure list: ARA
NSWGR8022

Wrong because there is plenty of freight happening in Sydney. Inland rail isn't going to do much other then take the Brisbane to Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth freight which isn't that much of Sydney's freight task. Western Sydney airport is going to need a rail terminal as well.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
And again, another thread started by yourself when an already existing thread is available.

I don't think there is a thread for this topic.
simstrain

Would you please share the link?
  a6et Minister for Railways

The introduction of inland rail between Melbourne and Brisbane will surely reduce the number of freight services transiting the Sydney area and therefore this project is highly unlikely to be required.

Money would better be spent on Brisbane SG and taking Inland Rail North of Brisbane as SG.

Melbourne could do with some funding for rail terminals and I can also see value in Mount Gambier and Portland Line upgrades ahead of this stupid investment.

Western Sydney Freight Line a highlight of Infrastructure list: ARA

Wrong because there is plenty of freight happening in Sydney. Inland rail isn't going to do much other then take the Brisbane to Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth freight which isn't that much of Sydney's freight task. Western Sydney airport is going to need a rail terminal as well.
simstrain
Sims, I don't know if it still exists or not, but there is/was an alignment set aside to connect from the Southern line to the western line, it was meant to join between Werrington/St Marys, while there is some areas that could be developed still, with the amount of new housing estates in between the Western line and Southern line it may be a lot harder now.  The aspect of the Western Sydney airport now having a metro rather than HR line that could have worked better will also make it harder for the line, as the Leppington branch was looked at to extend to the Airport, but I think that has been likely canned and the freight corridor will also be a non event as the metro to St Marys from the airport is likely to used for the metro.


Several options were also put in place that included connections to the Erskine Park and surrounding industrial areas, the St Marys hub and the old Defense dept area could well be part of a joint working option.


With the St Marys hub getting the go ahead, I would believe it is more for Port shuttle working than anything else and that could create issues with additional Paths being required on the Western Line.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
The introduction of inland rail between Melbourne and Brisbane will surely reduce the number of freight services transiting the Sydney area and therefore this project is highly unlikely to be required.

Money would better be spent on Brisbane SG and taking Inland Rail North of Brisbane as SG.

Melbourne could do with some funding for rail terminals and I can also see value in Mount Gambier and Portland Line upgrades ahead of this stupid investment.

Western Sydney Freight Line a highlight of Infrastructure list: ARA
NSWGR8022

Plenty of freight uses the Western corridor, with more to come, none of which is related to the Inland Rail route.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/corridors/wsfl
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech

Wrong because there is plenty of freight happening in Sydney. Inland rail isn't going to do much other then take the Brisbane to Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth freight which isn't that much of Sydney's freight task. Western Sydney airport is going to need a rail terminal as well.
simstrain

I am less sure of that when you consider the number of services which will no longer need to transit Sydney and will instead run direct to Melbourne or Brisbane.  How many trains per week would this impact?

All MB/BM, AB/BA, PB/BP will all save track utilisation and time on the new line between Brisbane and Melbourne.  Brisbane services to other capitals might also save more time as there is no in and out of Sydney and no around the blue mountains issues.
  UpperQuad Locomotive Fireman

Location: 184.8 miles to Sydney
I am less sure of that when you consider the number of services which will no longer need to transit Sydney and will instead run direct to Melbourne or Brisbane.  How many trains per week would this impact?

All MB/BM, AB/BA, PB/BP will all save track utilisation and time on the new line between Brisbane and Melbourne.  Brisbane services to other capitals might also save more time as there is no in and out of Sydney and no around the blue mountains issues.
NSWGR8022
You appear to be entirely missing the point. NONE of the services you mention use (or would use) the Western Sydney Freight corridor. In fact, opening of the Inland Rail may increase freight traffic on this corridor.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner


I am less sure of that when you consider the number of services which will no longer need to transit Sydney and will instead run direct to Melbourne or Brisbane.  How many trains per week would this impact?

All MB/BM, AB/BA, PB/BP will all save track utilisation and time on the new line between Brisbane and Melbourne.  Brisbane services to other capitals might also save more time as there is no in and out of Sydney and no around the blue mountains issues.
NSWGR8022

That is still a pittance to what is and will be moved by rail to Western Sydney. This project isn't about Brisbane, Melbourne or intercapital freight. It is about rail freight in Sydney moving to the intermodals being built here such as moorebank, st mary's and what will be at the new airport. It is also about getting freight off the busy part of the suburban network.
  PeeJay Junior Train Controller

Location: Riverstone NSW
Don't forget how low the % of freight is on the east coast. Better facilities in Sydney will surely boost that.
Also, as A resident of Western Sydney I can tell you road traffic is atrocious, and getting worse by the year. New roads are jammed as fast as they are built, and there is no room left to build any more. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the bigger courier companies could just about justify running a few parcel vans!! Rolling Eyes
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Don't forget how low the % of freight is on the east coast. Better facilities in Sydney will surely boost that.
Also, as A resident of Western Sydney I can tell you road traffic is atrocious, and getting worse by the year. New roads are jammed as fast as they are built, and there is no room left to build any more. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the bigger courier companies could just about justify running a few parcel vans!! Rolling Eyes
PeeJay

Actually there are many rail intermodals in western sydney that is fixing this issue. Qube at Moorebank and PN at St Mary's for instance is going to make a huge difference to truck road traffic for Western Sydney.

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