Aussie politics thread (2)

 
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@RTT_Rules @wobert Bill Shorten was a disaster for the ALP. About as useful.as a chocolate teapot. Unfortunately it will be very hard for progressive polticians to win elections as the electorate has been gaslit somewhat. That s why you have absolute throbbers like Michael McCormack and Kelly forget his first name being elected.

And that is why unless the leadership and direction changes in Victoria as regards to the Coalition I will vote for Andrews or whoever leads tbe ALP. Smith, OBrien, Hodgetts and Davis is just too much.


Michael

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  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
@don_dunstan Yes Meghan has embellished some things regarding the interview. You would have to be under a rock not to know of the UK royal family. But she is mistrusted and vilified more than any other Royal since Diana. Even more than Prince Andrew who was friends witb a convicted Paedo.

She is accused of being a social climber. What because she is mixed race and Kate Middleton who is also from humble begginings is not. I wonder why?

Michael
mejhammers1
Germaine Greer actually said at the time of the wedding that Meghan was going to bolt and take Harry with him and she was one hundred percent right on the money... I'm not sure how she knew but perhaps there were warning signs from the start when Meghan started courting Oprah - someone she hardly knew, just before her wedding.

Oprah is so rich that she doesn't bother to seek out the patronage of up-and-coming celebrities yet she happily accepted an invite to the wedding - was Oprah groomed for what was to come? Oprah isn't like Ellen and doesn't look for chances to get exclusive celebrity reveals as Ellen has done in the past but she's hardly going to say 'no' and refuse the chance to be the confidant later on especially to ex-royalty.

Kate Middleton on the other hand knew full well what she was getting into and seems to have handled the role pretty well - and she was British herself so she could hardly have pleaded the same feeble excuse that Meghan used at the very start of the interview which was that she didn't know anything at all about royalty in the UK.

Long story short no I don't think race was the issue - I think there was a significant interest expressed in making the most of getting the Royal title for herself and taking off with Harry just like Germaine predicted. There's predictions that they'll be billionaires off their celebrity - given the $112US Netflix deal the couple signed recently they're already well on their way.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Long story short no I don't think race was the issue - I think there was a significant interest expressed in making the most of getting the Royal title for herself and taking off with Harry just like Germaine predicted. There's predictions that they'll be billionaires off their celebrity - given the $112US Netflix deal the couple signed recently they're already well on their way.
"don_dunstan"
And good luck to them. Edward VIII was one who decided active royalty wasn't for him, and now Harry's done it. It's a small way of letting all the fawning royal-watchers in England know that the Royal family isn't the dream world that so many Brits seem to think it is. I wish Harry and Meghan long and happy lives without all the bowing, scraping and general irrelevance that Royalty represents.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Kate will almost inevitably be queen (titular) some day. Meghan won't (unless Harry does a Queen Victoria). The realities of being an extra.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
1If you want the detailed timing of events, watch the 2nd of the 4 corners program( last night) Timeline in regards to the Porter allegation
2 You've got plenty of time to spend here.
3 Whatever
4 Giving you context
5 Semantics  you saw the quote, a vast majority know what he meant
6 Why do you keep repeating the same thing.
7Independent investigation, he can't be found guilty, but he can clear his name. If you read the various links you would see that far more emminent people than me are saying the same thing.
8It's his reputation, not mine, With out  an independent investigation, to clear his name, he will be forever tainted.  And that is a fact

As Paul Barry said on media watch after 4Corners. The whole thing has been handled appallingly, if Morrison and Porter had come out straight away on release of the allegation, and said something along the lines of we will be having an independent investigation and the AG is confident  he will be found not guilty of any inappropriate behaviour. That would have damn near stopped the absolute frenzy that occurred while both Morrison and Porter hid.  And once the frenzy started in the media and social media, which can't be underestimated
, people started digging. A day or so later Porters Wiki pages were being altered from addresses in Canberra, about debate teams in Adelaide in 1986 an Sydney in 1988, he was nailed.

So then the media and several hundred thousand amateur sleuths started looking into Porters past, probably starting with the 4 Corners program and what a frenzy ensued. And because of his previous behaviour an absolutely huge number of people are upto speed on the issue.

And that's one of the differences with Shorten. Shortens past is not littered with continual inappropriate behaviour . And by reading various links and articles  and whatever else, you can get an understanding and proper context of a particular issue. And you flatly refuse to do this Shane, especially when it's having a crack at  your beloved Tory government
Who has done the digging? Conspiracy theory journalists with a axe to grind?

How many years has this guy been in politics and only now they dig this up?

Shorten has his own credibility issues, which is why he is not PM and never will be.

Yes, commonsense knows exactly what the PM wrote, not narrow minded twisted versions that are completely illogical.

Once again, you are happy for taxpayers to fund an investigation into an event that took place decades ago where the police have concluded nothing to see here?

Again you kill you argument by resorting to politics which again shows that you don't care about following usual police process, just a political victory.
RTT_Rules
Well sue them if their wrong(4Corners) or these so called conspiratorial journalists. Porter hasn't, why not? Of course it's a political problem it's the Federal Attorney General.  sheesh
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Wobbles has gone off the deep end.....
K160
You still sulking about...
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@Valvegear Lets compare Harry and Meghan to Edward and  Wallis Simpson. They were Nazi sympathisers. I agree with you. I hope Megan and Harry make loads of money and I could not care less. England has many qualities but a massive failing of England is the appalling deference to the upper classes. The doffing of the cap, the know your place. Kate Middleton submits to that way of thinking. Megan Markle does not. And that angers many of the English. And only in England they would view Megan in a poorer light than Prince Andrew, the Paedos mate.

The Royal Family a money guzzelling institution steeped in ancient tradtlions unable to move withe the times.
Rather like England really. Thank god I live in Australia.


Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

I mean lets NOT compare Meghan and Harry with Edward and Wallis Simpson.


Michael
  wobert Chief Commissioner
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
Wobbles has gone off the deep end.....
You still sulking about...
wobert

What made you think I was going away? I'm getting a laugh out of you getting trying to justify your position and contradicting yourself. It is clear you don't like being challenged on anything. Don't damage your glass-house will you....Smile
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Wobbles has gone off the deep end.....
You still sulking about...

What made you think I was going away? I'm getting a laugh out of you getting trying to justify your position and contradicting yourself. It is clear you don't like being challenged on anything. Don't damage your glass-house will you....Smile
K160
Whatever you reckon K1SOOKY
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
Wobbles has gone off the deep end.....
You still sulking about...

What made you think I was going away? I'm getting a laugh out of you getting trying to justify your position and contradicting yourself. It is clear you don't like being challenged on anything. Don't damage your glass-house will you....Smile
Whatever you reckon K1SOOKY
wobert

Clearly there is a nerve struck here. You're treating each response that challenges you as a nail and you're the hammer....and you've missed the nails more than once Laughing
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Wobbles has gone off the deep end.....
You still sulking about...

What made you think I was going away? I'm getting a laugh out of you getting trying to justify your position and contradicting yourself. It is clear you don't like being challenged on anything. Don't damage your glass-house will you....Smile
Whatever you reckon K1SOOKY

Clearly there is a nerve struck here. You're treating each response that challenges you as a nail and you're the hammer....and you've missed the nails more than once Laughing
Okay Boomer   Bit more modern, I use a tek gun
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I mean lets NOT compare Meghan and Harry with Edward and Wallis Simpson.


Michael
mejhammers1
On the plus side, the statement from HM The Queen shows that the PR world is already learning the lessons from Eddie McGuire's craptastic opening to his damage control presser a few weeks back.

“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan” certainly reads a lot better than if it had said “This is a proud and historic day for the Royal Family…”
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
I mean lets NOT compare Meghan and Harry with Edward and Wallis Simpson.


Michael
On the plus side, the statement from HM The Queen shows that the PR world is already learning the lessons from Eddie McGuire's craptastic opening to his damage control presser a few weeks back.

“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan” certainly reads a lot better than if it had said “This is a proud and historic day for the Royal Family…”
justapassenger
Well, it IS a proud and historic day for the royal family, in that they not only got to reinforce their ineptitude, but also their irrelevance!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Well, it IS a proud and historic day for the royal family, in that they not only got to reinforce their ineptitude, but also their irrelevance!
"DirtyBallast"
Irrelevance to us, certainly, but they keep a lot of "Royal watchers" and "Palace journalists" in a job in the Old Dart. . . something that never ceases to amaze me. I took my life in my hands on one visit to London when I commented that the royals are nothing special; they put their pants on the same way that I do, and a couple of locals looked ready to organise a lynch mob.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Have any of you been following the desperate plan by Australia to have Mathias Cormann appointed as the new head of the OECD.  Mr Cormann is a fascinating character epecially his background in financial affairs in Belguim before he came to Australia and entered politics.    The OECD is not very happy with Australia as when Mr. Cormann was Minister of Finance for Australia he refused to implement a set of standards the OECD was asking Australia to adopt.  The OECD has been pressuring Australia to get tough on corruption and Mr. Cormann in his capacity would not implement laws relating to Bribery.  The OECD have tried and tried but the current government has resisted doing this.  They have also resisted creating and properly funding an entirely independent Commission Against Corruption.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been very supportive of Mathias Cormann being appointed to the role of the head of the OECD.  How could this be good for the OECD?  It would certainly be good for Australia as the pressure would come off implementing the above.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/08/uk-warned-not-to-back-mathias-cormann-as-new-oecd-head
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
@RTT_Rules @wobert Bill Shorten was a disaster for the ALP. About as useful.as a chocolate teapot. Unfortunately it will be very hard for progressive polticians to win elections as the electorate has been gaslit somewhat. That s why you have absolute throbbers like Michael McCormack and Kelly forget his first name being elected.
mejhammers1

Shorten was sunk by stupid ALP policies and an anti coal approach in Queensland which they tried to settle during the campaign.
  Upven Junior Train Controller

Have any of you been following the desperate plan by Australia to have Mathias Cormann appointed as the new head of the OECD.  Mr Cormann is a fascinating character epecially his background in financial affairs in Belguim before he came to Australia and entered politics.    The OECD is not very happy with Australia as when Mr. Cormann was Minister of Finance for Australia he refused to implement a set of standards the OECD was asking Australia to adopt.  The OECD has been pressuring Australia to get tough on corruption and Mr. Cormann in his capacity would not implement laws relating to Bribery.  The OECD have tried and tried but the current government has resisted doing this.  They have also resisted creating and properly funding an entirely independent Commission Against Corruption.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been very supportive of Mathias Cormann being appointed to the role of the head of the OECD.  How could this be good for the OECD?  It would certainly be good for Australia as the pressure would come off implementing the above.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/08/uk-warned-not-to-back-mathias-cormann-as-new-oecd-head
NSWGR8022
Not really a desperate plan if Mathias has successfully made it to be one of the final two contenders. Heck maybe if he becomes head of the OECD it can return to being an intergovernmental organisation and not some strange sentient being unhappy with Australia.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Defence Minister Linda Reynolds will pay damages to alleged sexual assault survivor Brittany Higgins as part of a defamation settlement for calling her a “lying cow,” The Australian can reveal.

In a statement this afternoon, Ms Reynolds, who is on medical leave, publicly retracted the comments she made in her Parliamentary office and unreservedly apologised to Ms Higgins for the hurt and distress her remarks caused.
The senior cabinet minister has also had to pay a sizeable damages to Ms Higgins, out of her own pocket, under the terms of the settlement brokered by her lawyers.
  Upven Junior Train Controller

Have any of you been following the desperate plan by Australia to have Mathias Cormann appointed as the new head of the OECD.  Mr Cormann is a fascinating character epecially his background in financial affairs in Belguim before he came to Australia and entered politics.    The OECD is not very happy with Australia as when Mr. Cormann was Minister of Finance for Australia he refused to implement a set of standards the OECD was asking Australia to adopt.  The OECD has been pressuring Australia to get tough on corruption and Mr. Cormann in his capacity would not implement laws relating to Bribery.  The OECD have tried and tried but the current government has resisted doing this.  They have also resisted creating and properly funding an entirely independent Commission Against Corruption.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been very supportive of Mathias Cormann being appointed to the role of the head of the OECD.  How could this be good for the OECD?  It would certainly be good for Australia as the pressure would come off implementing the above.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/08/uk-warned-not-to-back-mathias-cormann-as-new-oecd-head
Not really a desperate plan if Mathias has successfully made it to be one of the final two contenders. Heck maybe if he becomes head of the OECD it can return to being an intergovernmental organisation and not some strange sentient being unhappy with Australia.
Upven
aaaaand he's now Secretary General of the OECD.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Not really a desperate plan if Mathias has successfully made it to be one of the final two contenders. Heck maybe if he becomes head of the OECD it can return to being an intergovernmental organisation and not some strange sentient being unhappy with Australia.
Upven
Cormann has succeeded in his bid to win election as new head of the OECD Secretariat.

As the Finance Minister who spent like a drunken sailor and more than doubled Australia's debt in the period he had his grubby paws on the levers of power, he should feel right at home if the OECD really is an anti-Australian organisation.
  Upven Junior Train Controller

Not really a desperate plan if Mathias has successfully made it to be one of the final two contenders. Heck maybe if he becomes head of the OECD it can return to being an intergovernmental organisation and not some strange sentient being unhappy with Australia.
Cormann has succeeded in his bid to win election as new head of the OECD Secretariat.

As the Finance Minister who spent like a drunken sailor and more than doubled Australia's debt in the period he had his grubby paws on the levers of power, he should feel right at home if the OECD really is an anti-Australian organisation.
justapassenger
Who said the OECD was anti-Australian? Lol
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Cormann has succeeded in his bid to win election as new head of the OECD Secretariat.
"justapassenger"
What do you mean "his bid?"
It's the bid by Cormann, Morrison and the RAAF fleet.

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