Portland Action

 
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
BL26, XR558, and BL31 are back today.
Thank you for that, didn't feel like going out again, was too wet early for anything more than a few ship photos.
Graincorp ship has gone, next one due about 8th May.
Obviously I don't know anything of your shipping photos but have you ever thought of posting them somewhere like:

https://www.shippinghistory.com/index.php

There is a heap of interesting stuff on there including hundreds of 'vintage' Melbourne shipping pics. You will also find at least one 'friendly face'.
YM-Mundrabilla
Thank you!  My ship photos are in many Facebook shipping groups, other shipping sites and some even printed and hanging in shipping company boardrooms around the world, I love my ships!

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
BL26, XR558, and BL31 are back today.
Thank you for that, didn't feel like going out again, was too wet early for anything more than a few ship photos.
Graincorp ship has gone, next one due about 8th May.
Obviously I don't know anything of your shipping photos but have you ever thought of posting them somewhere like:

https://www.shippinghistory.com/index.php

There is a heap of interesting stuff on there including hundreds of 'vintage' Melbourne shipping pics. You will also find at least one 'friendly face'.
Thank you!  My ship photos are in many Facebook shipping groups, other shipping sites and some even printed and hanging in shipping company boardrooms around the world, I love my ships!
Y115
Well done. Good that they are being put to good use. Smile
The history of tomorrow (assuming that there is one, of course)!
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

Y115
Great shot there 115, old form of transporting grain and a new version, bevans will be fuming over that..Razz

Has the truck just unloaded because both bins are sitting up a bit ? And that's what's called an A-Double by the way.
What's the GVM for them down there RustyRick 78tonne ?

BigShunter.
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
XR558 on the front of today's PN grain train, BL33 and BL26 the other locos.

  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

Great shot there 115, old form of transporting grain and a new version, bevans will be fuming over that..Razz

Has the truck just unloaded because both bins are sitting up a bit ? And that's what's called an A-Double by the way.
What's the GVM for them down there RustyRick 78tonne ?

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Looking at the location, I'd say the A-Double truck has just unloaded. Usually up to 84.5t but can be 90t in certain circumstances.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Hell, your loading them right up. So that truck empty will be 23tonne, which means they are shifting a good 60 and a bit tonne. These trucks are only marginally longer than a B-Double but shifting 15ish tonne more grain ! Ahh if only the grain trains could jump ahead with productivity increase's like that..  Rolling Eyes

Trains are getting earlier also, Mum said about 04:30 todays train South, no sleeping in at Mum's.

BigShunter.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Hell, your loading them right up. So that truck empty will be 23tonne, which means they are shifting a good 60 and a bit tonne. These trucks are only marginally longer than a B-Double but shifting 15ish tonne more grain ! Ahh if only the grain trains could jump ahead with productivity increase's like that..  Rolling Eyes

Trains are getting earlier also, Mum said about 04:30 todays train South, no sleeping in at Mum's.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
That's what they're allowed. I don't know if they're loaded to that.

With speed limited to 40 km/h, it would take an age for 50 wagons to trundle past.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

Great shot there 115, old form of transporting grain and a new version, bevans will be fuming over that..Razz

Has the truck just unloaded because both bins are sitting up a bit ? And that's what's called an A-Double by the way.
What's the GVM for them down there RustyRick 78tonne ?

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Are you sure its an A double. B doubles are not permitted over the Blue Mountains NSW, only A doubles, and they are like B double but with only 2 axles under each trailer unlike the 3 axles on B doubles.

Wish I could see how the rear trailer is connected to the front as it looks more like a doggy style trailer, but a bit weird looking. Besides the trailers have 3 axles. Maybe in Victoria you call them A's???
  Djebel Junior Train Controller

G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

Great shot there 115, old form of transporting grain and a new version, bevans will be fuming over that..Razz

Has the truck just unloaded because both bins are sitting up a bit ? And that's what's called an A-Double by the way.
What's the GVM for them down there RustyRick 78tonne ?

BigShunter.
Are you sure its an A double. B doubles are not permitted over the Blue Mountains NSW, only A doubles, and they are like B double but with only 2 axles under each trailer unlike the 3 axles on B doubles.

Wish I could see how the rear trailer is connected to the front as it looks more like a doggy style trailer, but a bit weird looking. Besides the trailers have 3 axles. Maybe in Victoria you call them A's???
nswtrains
It's a normal b-trailer (i.e. the same as you'd see on a regular single trailer semi), with a short drawbar converter dolly stuck under it.

A-double = Type 1 road train = 2 trailer road train.

The Victorian government just chooses to use the most obscure name possible to avoid scaring the peons.  The only noticeable difference to the 2 trailer road trains that have been used for years elsewhere is that down here the converter dollies have a shorter drawbar.
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
No train today.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

Great shot there 115, old form of transporting grain and a new version, bevans will be fuming over that..Razz

Has the truck just unloaded because both bins are sitting up a bit ? And that's what's called an A-Double by the way.
What's the GVM for them down there RustyRick 78tonne ?

BigShunter.
Are you sure its an A double. B doubles are not permitted over the Blue Mountains NSW, only A doubles, and they are like B double but with only 2 axles under each trailer unlike the 3 axles on B doubles.

Wish I could see how the rear trailer is connected to the front as it looks more like a doggy style trailer, but a bit weird looking. Besides the trailers have 3 axles. Maybe in Victoria you call them A's???
It's a normal b-trailer (i.e. the same as you'd see on a regular single trailer semi), with a short drawbar converter dolly stuck under it.

A-double = Type 1 road train = 2 trailer road train.

The Victorian government just chooses to use the most obscure name possible to avoid scaring the peons.  The only noticeable difference to the 2 trailer road trains that have been used for years elsewhere is that down here the converter dollies have a shorter drawbar.
Djebel
No, it's an A, also known as a Type 1 Road Train. A side on shot would tell the story.

The Victorian Government doesn't have a say in what a vehicle is called. It's defined by the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator. B-Doubles are slowly being replaced by A's for chip and grain cartage.
  Djebel Junior Train Controller

G520, X48 and BL31 on today's train.

Great shot there 115, old form of transporting grain and a new version, bevans will be fuming over that..Razz

Has the truck just unloaded because both bins are sitting up a bit ? And that's what's called an A-Double by the way.
What's the GVM for them down there RustyRick 78tonne ?

BigShunter.
Are you sure its an A double. B doubles are not permitted over the Blue Mountains NSW, only A doubles, and they are like B double but with only 2 axles under each trailer unlike the 3 axles on B doubles.

Wish I could see how the rear trailer is connected to the front as it looks more like a doggy style trailer, but a bit weird looking. Besides the trailers have 3 axles. Maybe in Victoria you call them A's???
It's a normal b-trailer (i.e. the same as you'd see on a regular single trailer semi), with a short drawbar converter dolly stuck under it.

A-double = Type 1 road train = 2 trailer road train.

The Victorian government just chooses to use the most obscure name possible to avoid scaring the peons.  The only noticeable difference to the 2 trailer road trains that have been used for years elsewhere is that down here the converter dollies have a shorter drawbar.
No, it's an A, also known as a Type 1 Road Train. A side on shot would tell the story.

The Victorian Government doesn't have a say in what a vehicle is called. It's defined by the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator. B-Doubles are slowly being replaced by A's for chip and grain cartage.
RustyRick
I meant the rear trailer is a b-trailer with a dolly under it.  I know the combination is an a-double, and why; but I feel my comment about the Victorian government deliberately not referring to them as "road trains" is valid.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
A-Doubles B-Doubles may seem a bit confusing if trucks are not your thing. Nationally there are similar rules for for all trucks, semi's as well as the various combinations of such, however each state seems to have left of field truck type which are peculiar to their particular use.

B-Doubles & A-Doubles are the most common larger trucks used nationally.

http://lindsayaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/breast-cancer-truck.jpg  B-Double configuration.

Common A-Double configuration's

https://www.primemovermag.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/pm-news-auspost-unveils-a-double-in-melb-0221-1024x768.jpg  

https://clentons.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/A-double-trailer.-1080-800.jpg

http://www.muscattrailers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/25MT-A-DOUBLE-2.jpg

There's a lot of variation and uses, axle commination's for both types of trucks, again depending on the use, here's a link which describes some of the variations.

https://www.advantia.com.au/market/heres-why-34-metre-a-doubles-have-become-a-thing/

And in one of the last paragraph's it describes Victoria as being '' Victoria’s pragmatic '' well they got that Right with respect to transport !

BigShunter.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
As the road manager, I really don't care if it's an A or a B. Neither does the general public who try and pass a convoy of them. A small percentage difference in tonnage and length is irrelevant when you have hundreds of them pounding our roads to pieces.

Anyway, back to the trains.
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
Graincorp has maintenance planned for their grain berth from 4th to 14th May, next ship after that is SUPER KATE due on 16th May.
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
Trains should be back tomorrow.
Another big Graincorp ship due at end of month or early June.

With one foot in the grave and the other hovering over the top I'm not sure if I can get out for photos of all the trains but I'll do my best.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
That doesn't sound good. All the best, cheers
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Trains should be back tomorrow.
Another big Graincorp ship due at end of month or early June.

With one foot in the grave and the other hovering over the top I'm not sure if I can get out for photos of all the trains but I'll do my best.
Y115
Well no good blowing a gasket on our behalf, Y115.

Number 1 priority, look after yourself, RustyRick is a solid back up. We all enjoy your pictures but not at the expense of your health. Keep your chin up Smile

BigShunter.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Trains should be back tomorrow.
Another big Graincorp ship due at end of month or early June.

With one foot in the grave and the other hovering over the top I'm not sure if I can get out for photos of all the trains but I'll do my best.
Well no good blowing a gasket on our behalf, Y115.

Number 1 priority, look after yourself, RustyRick is a solid back up. We all enjoy your pictures but not at the expense of your health. Keep your chin up Smile

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Agreed. Stay home where it's warm. Today's my first full day back in the office for over a year, and I'll be able to keep an eye on things. My shots are nowhere as good as Y115's, but I'll do my best.

BTW, when's the camera going up at Heywood?

Rick
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
I noticed a few 81s going down through Gheringhap the last few days, two of them haven't been to Portland before, 8160 and 8161.
The other one 8165 I have a photo taken in Portland in 2006, still in Freightcorp colours.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Train South through Heywood at 06:45 on the dot, according to Mum !

BigShunter.
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
XR558, BL33 and BL27 arrived about 0740.

  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Good to see you up Y115.

They're taking their time unloading the VGHF's today. I couldn't get a good shot of the locos over lunch.
  Y115 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Portland
Not easy balancing on the good leg and shivering with the cold trying to take photos but the alternative is worse!

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